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Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 17:30
by Noxy
He's good for the sport. People like him and he's a colourful personality. See the reception he got at York Hall.

Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 06:24
by Batley18
As some others have said, I find it very amusing, but I don't want it to end in him actually getting the fight he wants. If David Haye chooses to fight him after his next battle with a nobody, then it would be a disgrace.

Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 08:11
by fizzjambo
He's good for the sport in the sense that he get's reasonable media attention that may go somewhere else otherwise and he's quite funny, to an extent.

The problem is what is the end product? Anyone brought to the sport by his antics will want to see him fight - and after all the hype they'll want to see him fight someone they know over here - a Joshua, Haye, Fury type. So they get their interest built up, buy into the hype, take the time to watch the fight and what they see is a middle aged man lumbering around the ring, throwing a dozen punches a round and getting his ass handed to him until the ref steps in after 3/4 rounds. Their response? That was shite = boxing is shite.

Over the past few years the only fights guys I know who are rugby/football/mma/etc but not boxing fans have asked me about are Haye v Wlad, Mayweather v Pacman, Haye v Harrison - and for varying reasons they've all fallen well below what they were expecting to see.

That can't always be helped, the first two fights above deserved the hype (although both had the potential to turn out as they did) as they feature top level guys meeting each other. Just becuase it is a good fight doesn't mena it will be a 'good' fight. However chucking guys like Harrison and Briggs to the lions and building it up like it's going to be a thriller is, for the long term interest levels in the sport, a short term gain lor long term harm.

Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 08:19
by sinceretherebel
Batley18 wrote:As some others have said, I find it very amusing, but I don't want it to end in him actually getting the fight he wants. If David Haye chooses to fight him after his next battle with a nobody, then it would be a disgrace.
If he fights haye next, i cant say its a disgrace because neither man is currently ranked. Yeah they, both carry a name and past accomplishments but as of today. Both are outside the top 20* and a win of each other, would place them in the top 20. Dont you agree?

Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 09:08
by Sklar
Noxy wrote:He's good for the sport. People like him and he's a colourful personality. See the reception he got at York Hall.
The sort of people who go and watch public workouts would applaud a flushing toilet if it'd give them an autograph.

Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 09:22
by Noxy
Sklar wrote:
Noxy wrote:He's good for the sport. People like him and he's a colourful personality. See the reception he got at York Hall.
The sort of people who go and watch public workouts would applaud a flushing toilet if it'd give them an autograph.
:lol: Fair one, I'm still pleased he's over here stirring things up though. At the same time, he needs to sort something out. He needs to get on one of these upcoming shows now he's got himself noticed.

Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 09:35
by jamesmcdonnell
fizzjambo wrote:He's good for the sport in the sense that he get's reasonable media attention that may go somewhere else otherwise and he's quite funny, to an extent.

The problem is what is the end product? Anyone brought to the sport by his antics will want to see him fight - and after all the hype they'll want to see him fight someone they know over here - a Joshua, Haye, Fury type. So they get their interest built up, buy into the hype, take the time to watch the fight and what they see is a middle aged man lumbering around the ring, throwing a dozen punches a round and getting his ass handed to him until the ref steps in after 3/4 rounds. Their response? That was shite = boxing is shite.

Over the past few years the only fights guys I know who are rugby/football/mma/etc but not boxing fans have asked me about are Haye v Wlad, Mayweather v Pacman, Haye v Harrison - and for varying reasons they've all fallen well below what they were expecting to see.

That can't always be helped, the first two fights above deserved the hype (although both had the potential to turn out as they did) as they feature top level guys meeting each other. Just becuase it is a good fight doesn't mena it will be a 'good' fight. However chucking guys like Harrison and Briggs to the lions and building it up like it's going to be a thriller is, for the long term interest levels in the sport, a short term gain lor long term harm.
Thankyou, you put what I said earlier rather more elegantly.

Briggs would be good for the sport if he was a top contender in his prime, bristling with potential threat.

As it is, he's like a drunken portly uncle telling you to put 'em up after too much brandy at Christmas dinner, before retiring to the sofa to fart loudly into the floral cushions. All blouse and no skirt.

Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 11:20
by Batley18
sinceretherebel wrote:
Batley18 wrote:As some others have said, I find it very amusing, but I don't want it to end in him actually getting the fight he wants. If David Haye chooses to fight him after his next battle with a nobody, then it would be a disgrace.
If he fights haye next, i cant say its a disgrace because neither man is currently ranked. Yeah they, both carry a name and past accomplishments but as of today. Both are outside the top 20* and a win of each other, would place them in the top 20. Dont you agree?
I don't agree no. Haye is younger, fitter, fresher, and would have absolutely nothing to gain by fighting Briggs.

Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 11:20
by rhino222
if benn v eubank 3 was made would we watch it?

if vitali came out of retirement would we watch it?

if lennox came again would we watch it?

so why not briggs

#letsgochamp

Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 11:30
by jamesmcdonnell
rhino222 wrote:if benn v eubank 3 was made would we watch it?

if vitali came out of retirement would we watch it?

if lennox came again would we watch it?

so why not briggs

#letsgochamp
Benn v Eubank would be a glorified sparring session.

Who would I be watching Lennox and Vitali fight - one another, possibly I'd watch, not sure.

Briggs is looking to take on men much younger and fresher than himself, and has already had a terrific beating in his last serious effort against a top flight fighter, I'm not paying to watch him get smashed to bits.

Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 12:56
by fizzjambo
rhino222 wrote:if benn v eubank 3 was made would we watch it?

if vitali came out of retirement would we watch it?

if lennox came again would we watch it?

so why not briggs

#letsgochamp
I can honestly, hand on heart, say I know I wouldn't watch any of the above. Maybe, just maybe, Vitali might not be a car crash but the others would be humiliating for all involved and the sport

Re: Is Shannon Briggs good for boxing?

Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 12:58
by fizzjambo
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
fizzjambo wrote:He's good for the sport in the sense that he get's reasonable media attention that may go somewhere else otherwise and he's quite funny, to an extent.

The problem is what is the end product? Anyone brought to the sport by his antics will want to see him fight - and after all the hype they'll want to see him fight someone they know over here - a Joshua, Haye, Fury type. So they get their interest built up, buy into the hype, take the time to watch the fight and what they see is a middle aged man lumbering around the ring, throwing a dozen punches a round and getting his ass handed to him until the ref steps in after 3/4 rounds. Their response? That was shite = boxing is shite.

Over the past few years the only fights guys I know who are rugby/football/mma/etc but not boxing fans have asked me about are Haye v Wlad, Mayweather v Pacman, Haye v Harrison - and for varying reasons they've all fallen well below what they were expecting to see.

That can't always be helped, the first two fights above deserved the hype (although both had the potential to turn out as they did) as they feature top level guys meeting each other. Just becuase it is a good fight doesn't mena it will be a 'good' fight. However chucking guys like Harrison and Briggs to the lions and building it up like it's going to be a thriller is, for the long term interest levels in the sport, a short term gain lor long term harm.
Thankyou, you put what I said earlier rather more elegantly.

Briggs would be good for the sport if he was a top contender in his prime, bristling with potential threat.

As it is, he's like a drunken portly uncle telling you to put 'em up after too much brandy at Christmas dinner, before retiring to the sofa to fart loudly into the floral cushions. All blouse and no skirt.
I prefer your version tbh !! :TU: