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Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 10:11
by BigDoofus
PredatorHayds wrote:I still see more of a chance Bradley coming over than Garcia.

Bradley doesn't mind being the B side and he's fought here before.

I can see Garcia getting the winner of Thurman/Porter. Potentially the biggest fight in house for the PBC.

Broner wouldn't be a bad fight. He'd sell the fight well to the casual and it's still Brooks second toughest test behind Porter.
Rumours Stateside were that Garcia was hanging on hoping for Floyd.

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 10:15
by Stuarty
BigDoofus wrote:
PredatorHayds wrote:I still see more of a chance Bradley coming over than Garcia.

Bradley doesn't mind being the B side and he's fought here before.

I can see Garcia getting the winner of Thurman/Porter. Potentially the biggest fight in house for the PBC.

Broner wouldn't be a bad fight. He'd sell the fight well to the casual and it's still Brooks second toughest test behind Porter.
Rumours Stateside were that Garcia was hanging on hoping for Floyd.
This is why I want him to stay away. I think he'll be back this year or next though.

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 10:31
by Sklar
BigDoofus wrote:They'd get a bigger crowd at Bramall Lane than O2 - they get 20,000 every fortnight for a mid-table 3 division side that's not won a trophy in over 90 years. Brook's one of their own so they'd turnout plus boxing fans from round the UK.
He's one of their own at Bramall Lane but at Sheffield Arena they give it a miss?

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 10:42
by digzee
Pay the money take the short end and knockout Garcia then he will be big news and a unified WW champion, then he can command big money after.

Once Garcia sees our tax rates that $5m demand might change to $7m though.

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 10:51
by magwitch
BigDoofus wrote:"Danny Garica is rumoured to have put a five million dollar price tag on any possible fight with Kell Brook in Sheffield.

IBF champion Brook is desperate to unify the welterweight division and has told his promoter Eddie Hearn that the American rival’s WBC belt is his top pick.

Speculation over the pond is that Garcia would travel to England, most likely for a July outdoor show at Bramall Lane, if he is guaranteed a five million dollar purse (more than three and a half million pounds.)

Brook is a proud athlete and showed over the failed negotiations with Amir Khan that he would not be short-changed.

So if the rumours are true Hearn will be doing his sums to see if a Pay Per View show would be a financial success as well as a global spectacle.

Certainly, Garcia v Brook would be a mouth-watering clash. The 28-year-old from Philadelphia has an unblemished 32-fight winning career, taking the scalps of Robert Guerrero, Lamont Peterson and Erik Morales along the way...as well as stopping Khan, four years ago in Las Vegas.

More than half of his victims have failed to last the distance against him.

Garcia has boxed in Puerto Rico and Mexico, so has been prepared to go to other countries when it suits him.

A few days ago Adrien Broner suggested he would fight Garcia, despite the fact the pair are friends.

Interestingly, Brook also asked twitter followers this week “Who would love to see me fight @AdrienBroner RT to make it happen this summer!” "

Sorry I don’t really use Twitter. What’s @AdrianBroner RT?.......Right tit?

Personally I think that Lamont did a job on Garcia who was outclassed for at LEAST the last 7 or 8 rounds. But you’ve got to respect his win over Khan, which despite all Khan’s experience looked simple!

I could see Brook winning in England and Garcia winning in the US.
The really singular question mark about this fight is is Brook seasoned enough at the top level, whereas Garcia has proved this.

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 10:54
by BigDoofus
Sklar wrote:
BigDoofus wrote:They'd get a bigger crowd at Bramall Lane than O2 - they get 20,000 every fortnight for a mid-table 3 division side that's not won a trophy in over 90 years. Brook's one of their own so they'd turnout plus boxing fans from round the UK.
He's one of their own at Bramall Lane but at Sheffield Arena they give it a miss?
They turn-up religiously every fortnight for the football. A big boxing event there in the summer (with Brook and Hearn playing on his football allegiances) and many will go.

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 11:15
by keirw
BigDoofus wrote:
Sklar wrote:
BigDoofus wrote:They'd get a bigger crowd at Bramall Lane than O2 - they get 20,000 every fortnight for a mid-table 3 division side that's not won a trophy in over 90 years. Brook's one of their own so they'd turnout plus boxing fans from round the UK.
He's one of their own at Bramall Lane but at Sheffield Arena they give it a miss?
They turn-up religiously every fortnight for the football. A big boxing event there in the summer (with Brook and Hearn playing on his football allegiances) and many will go.
Football and boxing are worlds apart in terms of fan support, football fans tend to have an almost religious devotion to their team, which is usually drilled into them by an older family member from a young age. They will go and support their team week in week out if they are winning or losing.
I wonder how many Bramell lane regulars know or care about Brook.

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 11:48
by los2
brooks a blades fan...........well known at the lane...........been in local papers for years saying hes a fan who wants to fight there........

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 11:54
by los2
hatton went from boxing in leisure centres to 55000 at a stadium...........froch to 80000..........brook has a fanbase then added to his football crowd..............

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 11:55
by mfc_se15
los2 wrote:brooks a blades fan...........well known at the lane...........been in local papers for years saying hes a fan who wants to fight there........

Genuine question, does he ever go? I'm sure he turned up with the belt etc but I mean is he a regular down there? Some of these football links can be a "tad" tenuous in my experience.

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 12:05
by mickey1975
los2 wrote:hatton went from boxing in leisure centres to 55000 at a stadium...........froch to 80000..........brook has a fanbase then added to his football crowd..............
It really wasn't that simple, though, was it?

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 12:33
by keithmoonhangover
Switch hitter wrote:So he's price himself out of that one....Everybody blames Brook and his team but with fighters wanting stupid money it's hard for them to make the big fights
Someone's asked him how much and he's told them. It's the beginning of a negotiation.

Brook wants a big fight, but he is not a marquee name like Hatton or a big name heavyweight like Haye or Joshua.

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 12:35
by SNG
The problem is that fighting these last few meaningless fighters at home people can ignore him. He needs to go to the states or Eddie has to put his money where his mouth is and pay for these fighters to come over here.

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 12:41
by los2
mfc_se15 wrote:
los2 wrote:brooks a blades fan...........well known at the lane...........been in local papers for years saying hes a fan who wants to fight there........

Genuine question, does he ever go? I'm sure he turned up with the belt etc but I mean is he a regular down there? Some of these football links can be a "tad" tenuous in my experience.
dont know how regular but he goes......some of his family are massive fans........

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 12:43
by keithmoonhangover
SNG wrote:The problem is that fighting these last few meaningless fighters at home people can ignore him. He needs to go to the states or Eddie has to put his money where his mouth is and pay for these fighters to come over here.
I've got a lot of respect for Degale. If you can't get the fights at home, go over there and get them.

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 02:21
by Switch hitter
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Switch hitter wrote:So he's price himself out of that one....Everybody blames Brook and his team but with fighters wanting stupid money it's hard for them to make the big fights
Someone's asked him how much and he's told them. It's the beginning of a negotiation.

Brook wants a big fight, but he is not a marquee name like Hatton or a big name heavyweight like Haye or Joshua.
He doesn't want the fight that's why he has said 5 million no negotiation there.......he need to go over there again and make himself known

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 04:31
by freddydoesdallas
digzee wrote:Pay the money take the short end and knockout Garcia then he will be big news and a unified WW champion, then he can command big money after.

Once Garcia sees our tax rates that $5m demand might change to $7m though.
Dave Cameron can point him in the right direction of a way to get by the tax issue

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 06:49
by keithmoonhangover
Switch hitter wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Switch hitter wrote:So he's price himself out of that one....Everybody blames Brook and his team but with fighters wanting stupid money it's hard for them to make the big fights
Someone's asked him how much and he's told them. It's the beginning of a negotiation.

Brook wants a big fight, but he is not a marquee name like Hatton or a big name heavyweight like Haye or Joshua.
He doesn't want the fight that's why he has said 5 million no negotiation there.......he need to go over there again and make himself known
How do you know there is no negotiation?

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 07:08
by Switch hitter
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Switch hitter wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Someone's asked him how much and he's told them. It's the beginning of a negotiation.

Brook wants a big fight, but he is not a marquee name like Hatton or a big name heavyweight like Haye or Joshua.
He doesn't want the fight that's why he has said 5 million no negotiation there.......he need to go over there again and make himself known
How do you know there is no negotiation?
To be fair I don't..... but if he wants 5 million I don't think he will manoeuvre it's a fight he will probably lose and Eddie would need to sell out more than Bramall lane

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 07:58
by eoghanmachin
Stuarty30 wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:For me, this fight sells and mainly is due to Amir Khan.

Best way of selling this is by repeating Garcia dropping him constantly. A lot of casuals will get into it because of this and i'm very interested in this fight myself and i'm guessing most on here would be too. I would definitely pay for it.
It's an obvious selling point for the promoters and it would definitely get more of the casuals interested but it's great fight in its own right. I'm with you, I would have no problem paying for this fight. It would certainly shut Amir up about Kells opposition if he were to beat a guy that knocked him out.

What's Maidana doing nowadays? My mate sent me a pic of him the other week and he was bloated to eff. Not looking as if he's even thinking about fighting again. Pity because that would've been a decent match up for Kell and Hearn could've maybe even managed to get Maidana over here?
Maidana has retired. plus Eddie Hearn wouldn't dare put Brook in with him

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 08:33
by sweetscience
I think we can rule out ANY fighter signed with Al Haymon

as I am sure he will want to sign him to his own stable, so unlikely he will offer him his fighters till he has him

IMO its another shiz fight for Kell or he bins eddie off and goes stateside ala Degale/Selby

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 10:40
by Stuarty
eoghanmachin wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:For me, this fight sells and mainly is due to Amir Khan.

Best way of selling this is by repeating Garcia dropping him constantly. A lot of casuals will get into it because of this and i'm very interested in this fight myself and i'm guessing most on here would be too. I would definitely pay for it.
It's an obvious selling point for the promoters and it would definitely get more of the casuals interested but it's great fight in its own right. I'm with you, I would have no problem paying for this fight. It would certainly shut Amir up about Kells opposition if he were to beat a guy that knocked him out.

What's Maidana doing nowadays? My mate sent me a pic of him the other week and he was bloated to eff. Not looking as if he's even thinking about fighting again. Pity because that would've been a decent match up for Kell and Hearn could've maybe even managed to get Maidana over here?
Maidana has retired. plus Eddie Hearn wouldn't dare put Brook in with him
Didn't know he had retired. Porter is better than Maidana IMO.

Re: Brook v Garcia??

Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 14:56
by BigDoofus
sweetscience wrote:I think we can rule out ANY fighter signed with Al Haymon

as I am sure he will want to sign him to his own stable, so unlikely he will offer him his fighters till he has him

IMO its another shiz fight for Kell or he bins eddie off and goes stateside ala Degale/Selby
PBC don't seem as flush as they were. His fighters are now fighting on other promoter's shows and last weekend's fight was their first show in 5 months.
Hearn said he'd spoken to them about Garcia, Thurman and Peterson.