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Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 09:48
by ILikeBeer
SNG wrote:Rob3_142 wrote:Ah glad it's finally done! We start looking forward to the fight now and counting down the days. I expect a much less circus like build up though.
I'd expect they'd go stadium, maybe the Etihad, good venue for outdoor events. Interestingly though, it's the same date Hearn wanted to make the Brook super fight at Wembley, so they'll have to re-think that one!
Won't happen in a million years but a decent title fight for Brook on the undercard would be great seeing as it's going to be ppv.
Decent title fight? Brook?
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 09:49
by ILikeBeer
Rob3_142 wrote:Stuarty30 wrote: 
wasn't sure. I remember reading him saying he was preparing a bid. Reason I am asking is just to try and get an idea of what channel it'll be on.
You can almost guarantee it'll be on Sky PPV. Hearn has already said that will likely be the case, as that's where the most money will be.
Eurosport should try for it again, being as it's a Klitschko fight.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 09:51
by expe
ILikeBeer wrote:SNG wrote:Rob3_142 wrote:Ah glad it's finally done! We start looking forward to the fight now and counting down the days. I expect a much less circus like build up though.
I'd expect they'd go stadium, maybe the Etihad, good venue for outdoor events. Interestingly though, it's the same date Hearn wanted to make the Brook super fight at Wembley, so they'll have to re-think that one!
Won't happen in a million years but a decent title fight for Brook on the undercard would be great seeing as it's going to be ppv.
Decent title fight? Brook?
If it's on allegedly then I'd guess that Flanagan will be chief support.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 09:56
by Taansend
ILikeBeer wrote:Taansend wrote:The day before the final of Euro 2016.
Be great if it was England Ukraine meeting on July 10th, wouldn't it
![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
200-1 at the bookies. Get your money on.
Yeah. I'll get right on that.

Put a fiver on for me, please mate & I'll cut you in for 10%

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 10:20
by ILikeBeer
Taansend wrote:
Put a fiver on for me, please mate & I'll cut you in for 10%

Too late, I've put my life savings on. I stand to win £400.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 10:32
by Taansend
ILikeBeer wrote:Taansend wrote:
Put a fiver on for me, please mate & I'll cut you in for 10%

Too late, I've put my life savings on. I stand to win £400.
360 after my cut, mate
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Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 12:16
by Rob3_142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aifLj1XaX0g
See 5:42 if you don't want to hear Hearn ramble.
Now it seems that Sky haven't got it nailed on. Just goes to show how much of a joke the industry is when the linear champions isn't even priority for the biggest platform. Apparently it might go allegedly.
Also Haye made a valid point earlier. Isn't the timing quite peculiar? The morning of the weigh in of the biggest fight of the year? Desperate attempt to deflect some of the limelight? Also has anyone heard any confirmation from the Klitchko camp? Word from the Klitchko camp is that the fight will be in Germany.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 12:30
by expe
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 12:36
by tigermoth87
Fury on a wider points decision.
Wlad will be more aggressive this time around and I think he'll get caught hard a fair bit, maybe even dropped by Fury.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 12:37
by mickey1975
It's common announcing a fight in the build up to another. The Americans do it all the time.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 12:40
by jameswilson
Rob3_142 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aifLj1XaX0g
See 5:42 if you don't want to hear Hearn ramble.
Now it seems that Sky haven't got it nailed on. Just goes to show how much of a joke the industry is when the linear champions isn't even priority for the biggest platform. Apparently it might go allegedly.
Also Haye made a valid point earlier. Isn't the timing quite peculiar? The morning of the weigh in of the biggest fight of the year? Desperate attempt to deflect some of the limelight? Also has anyone heard any confirmation from the Klitchko camp? Word from the Klitchko camp is that the fight will be in Germany.
David Haye said in his interview that he believes it will be in Germany and said that's coming from people within Klitchko's team. Obviously Haye may have an ulterior motive tho.
We're all getting a little excited by thinking that Queensbury are going to be co-promoting tho. The promoters are going to be Hennessy and K2. What was the undercard for the first fight like? Cheap. It will be the same here again in an effort to pump the money into the main event.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 12:56
by jamesmcdonnell
tigermoth87 wrote:Fury on a wider points decision.
Wlad will be more aggressive this time around and I think he'll get caught hard a fair bit, maybe even dropped by Fury.
Yeah, that's about how I see it. Just don't see much Wlad can do differently, too long in the tooth, and set in his ways, he's not suddenly going to go shit or bust, which would probably be his best chance of winning, as I think he has the firepower to walk Tyson down, if he's prepared to take a few lumps.
Wlad might be a little more aggressive early on, but he'll soon become negative if he starts getting tagged, the man is just not up for taking shots, simple as that. He's not going to turn into Rocky Balboa for his last fight.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 12:57
by expe
jameswilson wrote:Rob3_142 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aifLj1XaX0g
See 5:42 if you don't want to hear Hearn ramble.
Now it seems that Sky haven't got it nailed on. Just goes to show how much of a joke the industry is when the linear champions isn't even priority for the biggest platform. Apparently it might go allegedly.
Also Haye made a valid point earlier. Isn't the timing quite peculiar? The morning of the weigh in of the biggest fight of the year? Desperate attempt to deflect some of the limelight? Also has anyone heard any confirmation from the Klitchko camp? Word from the Klitchko camp is that the fight will be in Germany.
David Haye said in his interview that he believes it will be in Germany and said that's coming from people within Klitchko's team. Obviously Haye may have an ulterior motive tho.
We're all getting a little excited by thinking that Queensbury are going to be co-promoting tho. The promoters are going to be Hennessy and K2. What was the undercard for the first fight like? Cheap. It will be the same here again in an effort to pump the money into the main event.
If it's in Germany the undercard will be shit again because they can get away with it there, here it still won't be great but it'll have to be better than Germany because people will complain about it. Realistically I think Hughie will be on there whatever happens, then if what's being reported today is true Flanagan will be on there too, simply because he's a Manc and likely to be out around that time anyway.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 13:27
by deadpan
I fear Fury thinking that he's already broken Wlad's spirit, which will feasibly be endorsed when he again gets the better of him in the build up, coming in complacently overweight and walking on to a humdinger. When Tyson fought Joey Abell he evidently thought he posed no threat and accordingly Fury was hit a lot. Whilst an Abell-Klitschko analysis is like comparing Dean Gaffney with Daniel Day-Lewis, I do still wonder if overconfidence could be his undoing.
I hope not, I much prefer him to Haye and Joshua.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 13:47
by jameswilson
expe wrote:jameswilson wrote:Rob3_142 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aifLj1XaX0g
See 5:42 if you don't want to hear Hearn ramble.
Now it seems that Sky haven't got it nailed on. Just goes to show how much of a joke the industry is when the linear champions isn't even priority for the biggest platform. Apparently it might go allegedly.
Also Haye made a valid point earlier. Isn't the timing quite peculiar? The morning of the weigh in of the biggest fight of the year? Desperate attempt to deflect some of the limelight? Also has anyone heard any confirmation from the Klitchko camp? Word from the Klitchko camp is that the fight will be in Germany.
David Haye said in his interview that he believes it will be in Germany and said that's coming from people within Klitchko's team. Obviously Haye may have an ulterior motive tho.
We're all getting a little excited by thinking that Queensbury are going to be co-promoting tho. The promoters are going to be Hennessy and K2. What was the undercard for the first fight like? Cheap. It will be the same here again in an effort to pump the money into the main event.
If it's in Germany the undercard will be poo again because they can get away with it there, here it still won't be great but it'll have to be better than Germany because people will complain about it. Realistically I think Hughie will be on there whatever happens, then if what's being reported today is true Flanagan will be on there too, simply because he's a Manc and likely to be out around that time anyway.
I don't think Flanagan will be on there. It makes him and Queensbury more money having him as a headliner on his own show.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 13:48
by gilgamesh
deadpan wrote:I fear Fury thinking that he's already broken Wlad's spirit, which will feasibly be endorsed when he again gets the better of him in the build up, coming in complacently overweight and walking on to a humdinger. When Tyson fought Joey Abell he evidently thought he posed no threat and accordingly Fury was hit a lot. Whilst an Abell-Klitschko analysis is like comparing Dean Gaffney with Daniel Day-Lewis, I do still wonder if overconfidence could be his undoing.
I hope not, I much prefer him to Haye and Joshua.
All Wlad would have to do to beat Fury is actually fight him. He didn't do that the first time. Fury could be in just as good of shape as he was the first time. If Wlad actually fights, he wins.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 13:52
by Bodyshot3
Think it will be properly interesting to see how Wlad - at this late stage of his career - will react to a huge stadium fight where he's the challenger and there's a noisy, partisan and passionate British fight crowd.
A big fight in the UK is an entirely different kettle of fish to all those German stadium fights...he'll feel a thousand miles away from home and I am guessing he'll have a fairly small bunch of supporters as well.
The tables will be turned - it will be WK under siege - and I think we'll get a real measure of the guy.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 14:04
by Sklar
He'll not bat an eyelid. If anything he may be more relaxed than he's ever been. When people have written you off the pressure floats away.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 14:09
by Rexob
gilgamesh wrote:deadpan wrote:I fear Fury thinking that he's already broken Wlad's spirit, which will feasibly be endorsed when he again gets the better of him in the build up, coming in complacently overweight and walking on to a humdinger. When Tyson fought Joey Abell he evidently thought he posed no threat and accordingly Fury was hit a lot. Whilst an Abell-Klitschko analysis is like comparing Dean Gaffney with Daniel Day-Lewis, I do still wonder if overconfidence could be his undoing.
I hope not, I much prefer him to Haye and Joshua.
All Wlad would have to do to beat Fury is actually fight him. He didn't do that the first time. Fury could be in just as good of shape as he was the first time. If Wlad actually fights, he wins.
Can't believe people are still insisting Wlad will beat Fury if he changes his game plan ? Wlad will never beat Fury what ever he does.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 14:14
by gilgamesh
Rexob wrote:gilgamesh wrote:deadpan wrote:I fear Fury thinking that he's already broken Wlad's spirit, which will feasibly be endorsed when he again gets the better of him in the build up, coming in complacently overweight and walking on to a humdinger. When Tyson fought Joey Abell he evidently thought he posed no threat and accordingly Fury was hit a lot. Whilst an Abell-Klitschko analysis is like comparing Dean Gaffney with Daniel Day-Lewis, I do still wonder if overconfidence could be his undoing.
I hope not, I much prefer him to Haye and Joshua.
All Wlad would have to do to beat Fury is actually fight him. He didn't do that the first time. Fury could be in just as good of shape as he was the first time. If Wlad actually fights, he wins.
Can't believe people are still insisting Wlad will beat Fury if he changes his game plan ? Wlad will never beat Fury what ever he does.
I can't believe somebody watched that first fight and actually believes Wlad gave his best effort. He gave no effort at all. You think it's a stretch to believe that Wlad could do better if he actually throws punches?
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 14:27
by Rexob
gilgamesh wrote:Rexob wrote:gilgamesh wrote:
All Wlad would have to do to beat Fury is actually fight him. He didn't do that the first time. Fury could be in just as good of shape as he was the first time. If Wlad actually fights, he wins.
Can't believe people are still insisting Wlad will beat Fury if he changes his game plan ? Wlad will never beat Fury what ever he does.
I can't believe somebody watched that first fight and actually believes Wlad gave his best effort. He gave no effort at all. You think it's a stretch to believe that Wlad could do better if he actually throws punches?
No Fury won't let him, if Wlad comes at him he's just going to get knockout simples.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 14:32
by expe
jameswilson wrote:expe wrote:jameswilson wrote:
David Haye said in his interview that he believes it will be in Germany and said that's coming from people within Klitchko's team. Obviously Haye may have an ulterior motive tho.
We're all getting a little excited by thinking that Queensbury are going to be co-promoting tho. The promoters are going to be Hennessy and K2. What was the undercard for the first fight like? Cheap. It will be the same here again in an effort to pump the money into the main event.
If it's in Germany the undercard will be poo again because they can get away with it there, here it still won't be great but it'll have to be better than Germany because people will complain about it. Realistically I think Hughie will be on there whatever happens, then if what's being reported today is true Flanagan will be on there too, simply because he's a Manc and likely to be out around that time anyway.
I don't think Flanagan will be on there. It makes him and Queensbury more money having him as a headliner on his own show.
When else is he going to fight? Realistically the plan would have been for him to fight at the same venue, on the same channel, on a date close to July 9th. They could either go ahead with that and try and go up against Crolla on May 7th and Klitschko-Fury on July 9th, almost certainly affecting the ticket sales, or have him as chief support on a massive show in his home city, which would be a big boost to his profile.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 14:37
by Counter-puncher
I love it when expe and James have their little "YOU be the Promoter!" tiffs, its like watching a very poor mans Frank vs Camp Eddie
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 14:49
by jameswilson
Counter-puncher wrote:I love it when expe and James have their little "YOU be the Promoter!" tiffs, its like watching a very poor mans Frank vs Camp Eddie
'I'm operating on a different level.'
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 08 Apr 2016, 14:49
by mickey1975
I think it saves Queensbury and BN cash if they put Terry on the Fury card.