OK I confess. I'm on the AJ train.

[Nightmare Roy]

I think in this era he can become the dominant force maybe, he seems ok but I prefer Whyte as he's more of a character.

[Andrew]

Cheats in the ring? If you're talking about rumoured PED usage then that's all it is, rumour. To call him a cheat is just your opinion and one you shouldn't broadcast until you have concrete evidence or your suspicions have been confirmed.

Do you watch his fights?

He's one of the biggest cheats in world boxing.

He's a thug.

He does hit after the break and when opponents are down a lot.

[cutsman]

Cheats in the ring? If you're talking about rumoured PED usage then that's all it is, rumour. To call him a cheat is just your opinion and one you shouldn't broadcast until you have concrete evidence or your suspicions have been confirmed.

Do you watch his fights?

He's one of the biggest cheats in world boxing.

He's a thug.

He does hit after the break and when opponents are down a lot.

That's simply because he's so humble

[reggaereggae]

Cheats in the ring? If you're talking about rumoured PED usage then that's all it is, rumour. To call him a cheat is just your opinion and one you shouldn't broadcast until you have concrete evidence or your suspicions have been confirmed.

Do you watch his fights?

He's one of the biggest cheats in world boxing.

He's a thug.

He does hit after the break and when opponents are down a lot.

And after the bell - Dillian Whyte eg

But I agree with custman, he does it in a very humble way....

[Stevieb8006]

So in summary. No specifics, just generic bullshit that means nothing. I asked a simple question. Maybe I have not seen the fights with this alleged cheating so am asking you to explain. Seems easy enough Horse.

Joshua hits his opponents after the bell and when they are down on a regular basis.

Anyone who can't see it needs to sort their skull out.

He def hits people after the bell and when they are down. But to be honest, I've no problem with him being a nasty fighter, it's more annoying the sky pretty much justify it by saying how you need that nastiness at top level. If it was fury they'd slaughter him. Also, poking your tongue out at fallen foes is hardly humble. But I'm half on board.

[Stuarty]

So in summary. No specifics, just generic bullshit that means nothing. I asked a simple question. Maybe I have not seen the fights with this alleged cheating so am asking you to explain. Seems easy enough Horse.

Joshua hits his opponents after the bell and when they are down on a regular basis.

Anyone who can't see it needs to sort their skull out.

Tripe. sh*t happens from time to time. To call it cheating is just daft on your part.

I like watching the guy fight. He seems to enjoy putting people away and shows spite in the ring. I like to watch that as a fan. The circus, hype and bollux around him we could do without but it seems to be working in his favour so meh.... Doesn't mean we have to like it.

If you don't like him then fine. I can understand why some wouldn't take to him. Don't be a knob and say he is a cheat and scum. It just makes you look silly and bitter.

[Stevieb8006]

So in summary. No specifics, just generic bullshit that means nothing. I asked a simple question. Maybe I have not seen the fights with this alleged cheating so am asking you to explain. Seems easy enough Horse.

Joshua hits his opponents after the bell and when they are down on a regular basis.

Anyone who can't see it needs to sort their skull out.

Tripe. sh*t happens from time to time. To call it cheating is just daft on your part.

I like watching the guy fight. He seems to enjoy putting people away and shows spite in the ring. I like to watch that as a fan. The circus, hype and bollux around him we could do without but it seems to be working in his favour so meh.... Doesn't mean we have to like it.

If you don't like him then fine. I can understand why some wouldn't take to him. Don't be a knob and say he is a cheat and scum. It just makes you look silly and bitter.

Calling him scum is way to harsh. I wonder if fighters like Roberto Duran meet that same criteria.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Do you watch his fights?

He's one of the biggest cheats in world boxing.

He's a thug.

He does hit after the break and when opponents are down a lot.

That's simply because he's so humble

I think he's trying to force his opponent's to be as humble as he is. He's beating them humble. What a guy. #beatenhumble

[Counter-puncher]

you've got a future in PR, mcdonnell.

give Eddie a call. I think he could use a few pointers that way.

[jamesmcdonnell]

you've got a future in PR, mcdonnell.

give Eddie a call. I think he could use a few pointers that way.

I couldn't agree more.

[rd350lc]

Well I'm certainly on the AJ train, as regular readers may know I'm a massive fan of Eddie Hearn and I always wish the best for him and everyone connected with him. My only gripe with the whole setup is I'm not sure they are quite selling the product as aggressively as they could do. A massive potential crossover star like AJ deserves the full works. I think they should maybe think about a bigger presence on social media- I think the fans would love to hear about AJs sacrifices, say as he consumes another abstemious meal of chicken and boiled veg- also I think Eddie Hearn should mention what a big star AJ is more often. Try and get him in the papers a bit, that kind of thing.

I think that they should call him the "future people's champion" again.

It's cocky yet #humble, just like AJ.

It's laughable that you call him cocky and you would never say the same about Fury .

[handsofstone]

Well I'm certainly on the AJ train, as regular readers may know I'm a massive fan of Eddie Hearn and I always wish the best for him and everyone connected with him. My only gripe with the whole setup is I'm not sure they are quite selling the product as aggressively as they could do. A massive potential crossover star like AJ deserves the full works. I think they should maybe think about a bigger presence on social media- I think the fans would love to hear about AJs sacrifices, say as he consumes another abstemious meal of chicken and boiled veg- also I think Eddie Hearn should mention what a big star AJ is more often. Try and get him in the papers a bit, that kind of thing.

Sarky git

[asdfjkl]

He's hit people while they've been down....I think that may be the cheating Horse is talking about.

I'm not really into the AJ humble guy media figure, but he is a can't miss type in the ring.

I can't remember Joshua hitting anyone who's down? Could you show what you're talking about?

TBH I'm on the AJ train as well and I'm for over a year now.

[rd350lc]

He's hit people while they've been down....I think that may be the cheating Horse is talking about.

I'm not really into the AJ humble guy media figure, but he is a can't miss type in the ring.

I can't remember Joshua hitting anyone who's down? Could you show what you're talking about?

TBH I'm on the AJ train as well and I'm for over a year now.

I think it has happened a few times and mostly they have been on the way down , they are hardly lying on the canvas .

[Counter-puncher]

Well I'm certainly on the AJ train, as regular readers may know I'm a massive fan of Eddie Hearn and I always wish the best for him and everyone connected with him. My only gripe with the whole setup is I'm not sure they are quite selling the product as aggressively as they could do. A massive potential crossover star like AJ deserves the full works. I think they should maybe think about a bigger presence on social media- I think the fans would love to hear about AJs sacrifices, say as he consumes another abstemious meal of chicken and boiled veg- also I think Eddie Hearn should mention what a big star AJ is more often. Try and get him in the papers a bit, that kind of thing.

I think that they should call him the "future people's champion" again.

It's cocky yet #humble, just like AJ.

It's laughable that you call him cocky and you would never say the same about Fury .

you are correct, Fury has yet to learn the priceless lesson of the value of #humility

[Horse]

It's laughable that you call him cocky and you would never say the same about Fury .

Wrong as usual.

OK then, please tell me what you think are Tyson Fury''s three biggest weaknesses.

Too cocky, too slick & too handsome.

[reggaereggae]

Joshua is already a good fighter and may turn out to be dominant in a weak era...

But the PR is stomach churning.... Only today I read a pathetic piece by Barry in the Scum, with the usual humble and normal guy angle...?!

In this PR savvy media age, where many get their info from other sources than tradional media, do they really think the public, all of them, will fall for it? Maybe a lot will, and Matchroom are marketing geniuses but their approach seems so crude and unsophisticated.

I feel sure plenty will feel nauseated by this repetitive crap. If for example the much better talking and real Haye or Fury fight him, despite the PR push to make them bad guys in this battle, I feel that if it happens, these two who are good talkers and entertaining in different ways, will pick apart the one-lined humbleness angle, make Joshua and his boyfriend Eddie Hearn will become laughing stocks.

The public gets the hump although can forgive quickly. Haye acted in an unsavoury manner, and did that toe thing which didn't go down well... But after he banged out Chisora and even though he pulled out of the Fury fight twice, went into I'm a celeb and banged out no hope De Mori in front of fools like Benedict Cumberbitch, people like him. He has loads of friends and celebs in media circles, and I'm not sure whether it's intentional or not, but his marketing campaign has been excellent, even after mess ups. Lack of charisma rarely sells. And all this media trained humble nonsense from AJ, I believe will turn people against him if he carries on.

You can only drink the same flavour milkshake everyday for a certain period til you get bored, and want something different. the humble story is getting old already...

Everyone, and I mean everyone, I have spoken to, trade guy or pub drinker, loves Fury because he is real, fun, unpredictable and has charisma. Despite certain sectors criticising him for saying this and that and the other, the UK populace warm to a real person who shows some character and uniqueness. Joshua does none of the above. Maybe he will.... (Although I remember the awful attempt to push Bruno as having a new, nasty, killer personality... ) but I would suggest to Camp, gay and fast Eddie to introduce a couple of different angles into his marketing document.

And despite his risible tag as the man every mother wants her daughter to bring home , I don't think AJ's the sharpest tool in the box....if you look at the build of his cranium, it looks like only a brain the size of a small packet of bacon could fit on there! #StayHumble

[jamesmcdonnell]

Joshua is already a good fighter and may turn out to be dominant in a weak era...

But the PR is stomach churning.... Only today I read a pathetic piece by Barry in the Scum, with the usual humble and normal guy angle...?!

In this PR savvy media age, where many get their info from other sources than tradional media, do they really think the public, all of them, will fall for it? Maybe a lot will, and Matchroom are marketing geniuses but their approach seems so crude and unsophisticated.

I feel sure plenty will feel nauseated by this repetitive crap. If for example the much better talking and real Haye or Fury fight him, despite the PR push to make them bad guys in this battle, I feel that if it happens, these two who are good talkers and entertaining in different ways, will pick apart the one-lined humbleness angle, make Joshua and his boyfriend Eddie Hearn will become laughing stocks.

The public gets the hump although can forgive quickly. Haye acted in an unsavoury manner, and did that toe thing which didn't go down well... But after he banged out Chisora and even though he pulled out of the Fury fight twice, went into I'm a celeb and banged out no hope De Mori in front of fools like Benedict Cumberbitch, people like him. He has loads of friends and celebs in media circles, and I'm not sure whether it's intentional or not, but his marketing campaign has been excellent, even after mess ups. Lack of charisma rarely sells. And all this media trained humble nonsense from AJ, I believe will turn people against him if he carries on.

You can only drink the same flavour milkshake everyday for a certain period til you get bored, and want something different. the humble story is getting old already...

Everyone, and I mean everyone, I have spoken to, trade guy or pub drinker, loves Fury because he is real, fun, unpredictable and has charisma. Despite certain sectors criticising him for saying this and that and the other, the UK populace warm to a real person who shows some character and uniqueness. Joshua does none of the above. Maybe he will.... (Although I remember the awful attempt to push Bruno as having a new, nasty, killer personality... ) but I would suggest to Camp, gay and fast Eddie to introduce a couple of different angles into his marketing document.

And despite his risible tag as the man every mother wants her daughter to bring home , I don't think AJ's the sharpest tool in the box....if you look at the build of his cranium, it looks like only a brain the size of a small packet of bacon could fit on there! #StayHumble

Just ignore it, and watch the fights.

[Counter-puncher]

'Camp, gay AND fast Eddie'????



Too long, doesn't roll off the tongue.

Camp Eddie. He brings the readies. Raise your hand he'll build your #brand. Making future peoples champions one tankjob at a time.

[Horse]

Just ignore it, and watch the fights.

And miss out on half the fun?

[reggaereggae]

Joshua is already a good fighter and may turn out to be dominant in a weak era...

But the PR is stomach churning.... Only today I read a pathetic piece by Barry in the Scum, with the usual humble and normal guy angle...?!

In this PR savvy media age, where many get their info from other sources than tradional media, do they really think the public, all of them, will fall for it? Maybe a lot will, and Matchroom are marketing geniuses but their approach seems so crude and unsophisticated.

I feel sure plenty will feel nauseated by this repetitive crap. If for example the much better talking and real Haye or Fury fight him, despite the PR push to make them bad guys in this battle, I feel that if it happens, these two who are good talkers and entertaining in different ways, will pick apart the one-lined humbleness angle, make Joshua and his boyfriend Eddie Hearn will become laughing stocks.

The public gets the hump although can forgive quickly. Haye acted in an unsavoury manner, and did that toe thing which didn't go down well... But after he banged out Chisora and even though he pulled out of the Fury fight twice, went into I'm a celeb and banged out no hope De Mori in front of fools like Benedict Cumberbitch, people like him. He has loads of friends and celebs in media circles, and I'm not sure whether it's intentional or not, but his marketing campaign has been excellent, even after mess ups. Lack of charisma rarely sells. And all this media trained humble nonsense from AJ, I believe will turn people against him if he carries on.

You can only drink the same flavour milkshake everyday for a certain period til you get bored, and want something different. the humble story is getting old already...

Everyone, and I mean everyone, I have spoken to, trade guy or pub drinker, loves Fury because he is real, fun, unpredictable and has charisma. Despite certain sectors criticising him for saying this and that and the other, the UK populace warm to a real person who shows some character and uniqueness. Joshua does none of the above. Maybe he will.... (Although I remember the awful attempt to push Bruno as having a new, nasty, killer personality... ) but I would suggest to Camp, gay and fast Eddie to introduce a couple of different angles into his marketing document.

And despite his risible tag as the man every mother wants her daughter to bring home , I don't think AJ's the sharpest tool in the box....if you look at the build of his cranium, it looks like only a brain the size of a small packet of bacon could fit on there! #StayHumble

Just ignore it, and watch the fights.

Sorry, let me get this straight... You want me to ignore participant's personalities, the hype machine, the quotes, the Internet media, the money, the status, the significance, the history, the business angles, the charisma, and never read a press article, ignore the PR and just watch every fight as simply a fight?

I assume you're been facetious as you're usually a bright poster.... But really, what is an event without a background story? Should I therefore ignore every serious boxing fight and just enjoy watching two drunks or bareknuckle travellers whose language I can't even decipher, and who are equally matched, flailing outside a local pub?

Please tell me I have missed some irony in your odd post (though I have noticed you commentating on any thread I make, like a lovesick teenager with sexual urges criticising everything her unrequited love does to make her feel better!)

[Counter-puncher]

Joshua is already a good fighter and may turn out to be dominant in a weak era...

But the PR is stomach churning.... Only today I read a pathetic piece by Barry in the Scum, with the usual humble and normal guy angle...?!

In this PR savvy media age, where many get their info from other sources than tradional media, do they really think the public, all of them, will fall for it? Maybe a lot will, and Matchroom are marketing geniuses but their approach seems so crude and unsophisticated.

I feel sure plenty will feel nauseated by this repetitive crap. If for example the much better talking and real Haye or Fury fight him, despite the PR push to make them bad guys in this battle, I feel that if it happens, these two who are good talkers and entertaining in different ways, will pick apart the one-lined humbleness angle, make Joshua and his boyfriend Eddie Hearn will become laughing stocks.

The public gets the hump although can forgive quickly. Haye acted in an unsavoury manner, and did that toe thing which didn't go down well... But after he banged out Chisora and even though he pulled out of the Fury fight twice, went into I'm a celeb and banged out no hope De Mori in front of fools like Benedict Cumberbitch, people like him. He has loads of friends and celebs in media circles, and I'm not sure whether it's intentional or not, but his marketing campaign has been excellent, even after mess ups. Lack of charisma rarely sells. And all this media trained humble nonsense from AJ, I believe will turn people against him if he carries on.

You can only drink the same flavour milkshake everyday for a certain period til you get bored, and want something different. the humble story is getting old already...

Everyone, and I mean everyone, I have spoken to, trade guy or pub drinker, loves Fury because he is real, fun, unpredictable and has charisma. Despite certain sectors criticising him for saying this and that and the other, the UK populace warm to a real person who shows some character and uniqueness. Joshua does none of the above. Maybe he will.... (Although I remember the awful attempt to push Bruno as having a new, nasty, killer personality... ) but I would suggest to Camp, gay and fast Eddie to introduce a couple of different angles into his marketing document.

And despite his risible tag as the man every mother wants her daughter to bring home , I don't think AJ's the sharpest tool in the box....if you look at the build of his cranium, it looks like only a brain the size of a small packet of bacon could fit on there! #StayHumble

Just ignore it, and watch the fights.

Sorry, let me get this straight... You want me to ignore participant's personalities, the hype machine, the quotes, the Internet media, the money, the status, the significance, the history, the business angles, the charisma, and never read a press article, ignore the PR and just watch every fight as simply a fight?

Now, theres an idea

[reggaereggae]

Just ignore it, and watch the fights.

Sorry, let me get this straight... You want me to ignore participant's personalities, the hype machine, the quotes, the Internet media, the money, the status, the significance, the history, the business angles, the charisma, and never read a press article, ignore the PR and just watch every fight as simply a fight?

Now, theres an idea

Hhahaha yeah but it's a shit and completely colourless idea. Like 'take all the character out of boxing'....... Rubbish. Without its characters, I'd rather watch lawn bowls or frankly just jerk off over ATM vids, even though I know the outcome

[Counter-puncher]

I guess I'm lucky being able to enjoy fights at face value without a puerile need for wwf style backstories.

[el_grande_mauro_mina]

Once you have seen a few heavyweight derailments (basically - all of them) you stop boarding the fornicating train and go by car.

Joshua is a KO waiting to happen, because that is what happens to all of them in the end unless they get out of it at the right time, and
only one - well, two, ever did that... smart guys that they were... (Marciano and Gene Tunney).