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Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 23 Apr 2016, 21:58
by davie
Maxsplit wrote:.

Anthony Joshua 100% Nigerian. 100% born in England. 50% raised in England.

Froch = English
Joshua = adopted Britsh. Clearly Nigerian.
How the fvck is someone who is born in England "adopted British"?
These threads really are low point in the history of this forum!

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 23 Apr 2016, 22:27
by asdfjkl
Is Fury English? Is Haye English? Is Hamilton English? Perhaps the UK boys simply got some bad genes, and need to have it from their immigrants.

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 01:46
by Taansend
Funny.

I started these threads as a joke.

In 21st Century England if you are born in England & consider yourself English then you ARE English - no matter what anyone else says.

But as long as you're nice to everyone who cares where you are from :TU:

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 01:52
by davie
Taansend wrote:Funny.

I started these threads as a joke.

In 21st Century England if you are born in England & consider yourself English then you ARE English - no matter what anyone else says.

But as long as you're nice to everyone who cares where you are from :TU:
I appreciate you started this as a piss take of the Joshua thread.
But the fact the Joshua thread existed to be mocked in the first place and many of the opinions discussed on either thread is an embarrassment to this forum.

The subject should not even be up for debate. People passing opinion on this shit as if their view actually has a bearing on anything at all. And as for the borderline (and some not so borderline) racist comments made I'm astounded these threads have not been pulled.

They're fornicating ridiculous.

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 01:56
by Taansend
davie wrote:
Taansend wrote:Funny.

I started these threads as a joke.

In 21st Century England if you are born in England & consider yourself English then you ARE English - no matter what anyone else says.

But as long as you're nice to everyone who cares where you are from :TU:
I appreciate you started this as a piss take of the Joshua thread.
But the fact the Joshua thread existed to be mocked in the first place and many of the opinions discussed on either thread is an embarrassment to this forum.
It's an embarrassment to England, mate

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 02:34
by craigjenkins05
Is amir Khan English Pakistani heritage spends his time doing charity work and building schools there but fought for England?

But when his brother got dropped from the team he went and fought for Pakistan :lol:

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 02:56
by mickey1975
craigjenkins05 wrote:Is amir Khan English Pakistani heritage spends his time doing charity work and building schools there but fought for England?

But when his brother got dropped from the team he went and fought for Pakistan :lol:
Khan did a lot for the Cumbrian flood victims. Is he Cumbrian?

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 05:28
by Stevieb8006
I think the real question should be is Chris eubank "English"? (Did you see what I did)

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 06:54
by craigjenkins05
mickey1975 wrote:
craigjenkins05 wrote:Is amir Khan English Pakistani heritage spends his time doing charity work and building schools there but fought for England?

But when his brother got dropped from the team he went and fought for Pakistan :lol:
Khan did a lot for the Cumbrian flood victims. Is he Cumbrian?
I'd say some people consider themselves English until it suits them haroon Khan prime example

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 06:56
by el_grande_mauro_mina
craigjenkins05 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
craigjenkins05 wrote:Is amir Khan English Pakistani heritage spends his time doing charity work and building schools there but fought for England?

But when his brother got dropped from the team he went and fought for Pakistan :lol:
Khan did a lot for the Cumbrian flood victims. Is he Cumbrian?
I'd say some people consider themselves English until it suits them haroon Khan prime example
Why can't he have more than one identity? It isn't illegal to have more than one identity.

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 11:18
by Taansend
Maxsplit wrote:Simplistically :

Froch is 75% English, born and raised in England.

Anthony Joshua 100% Nigerian. 100% born in England. 50% raised in England.

Froch = English
Joshua = adopted Britsh. Clearly Nigerian.
Wasn't Joshua's maternal grandfather a Paddy?

I'm sure he said that in an interview a while back :maybe:

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 24 Apr 2016, 12:55
by craigjenkins05
Fat Git wrote:
craigjenkins05 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote: Khan did a lot for the Cumbrian flood victims. Is he Cumbrian?
I'd say some people consider themselves English until it suits them haroon Khan prime example
Why can't he have more than one identity? It isn't illegal to have more than one identity.
No but when the argument of someone fighting for their country proudly means they're English it definately adds confusion

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 10:01
by jamesmcdonnell
Fat Git wrote:
craigjenkins05 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote: Khan did a lot for the Cumbrian flood victims. Is he Cumbrian?
I'd say some people consider themselves English until it suits them haroon Khan prime example
Why can't he have more than one identity? It isn't illegal to have more than one identity.
Precisely. It's not an either or. You can identify with both the country of your birth, and where you grew up, and also the background of your family. What's the big deal with that?

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 10:30
by reggaereggae
Taansend wrote:
Maxsplit wrote:Simplistically :

Froch is 75% English, born and raised in England.

Anthony Joshua 100% Nigerian. 100% born in England. 50% raised in England.

Froch = English
Joshua = adopted Britsh. Clearly Nigerian.
Wasn't Joshua's maternal grandfather a Paddy?

I'm sure he said that in an interview a while back :maybe:
I think that's Dilian Whyte

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 10:31
by Stuarty
Imagine this thread on a football site :witzend:

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 10:54
by reggaereggae
Stuarty30 wrote:Imagine this thread on a football site :witzend:
Yes, full of Scousers saying they're not English, they're Scouse!

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 12:00
by Taansend
reggaereggae wrote:
Taansend wrote:
Maxsplit wrote:Simplistically :

Froch is 75% English, born and raised in England.

Anthony Joshua 100% Nigerian. 100% born in England. 50% raised in England.

Froch = English
Joshua = adopted Britsh. Clearly Nigerian.
Wasn't Joshua's maternal grandfather a Paddy?

I'm sure he said that in an interview a while back :maybe:
I think that's Dilian Whyte
I know that Whyte's grandad was a Paddy but also heard that Joshua's mum's dad was too. This article mentions it but doesn't go into any detail.

http://irishpost.co.uk/anthony-joshua-v ... anny-rule/

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 12:39
by Lenny Cravats
Taki... wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:Froch is not full Polish, part Polish and part English. Whereas genetically Joshua is 100% African .
If science is to be believed every human on the planet is 100% genetically African.

We live in a land, latterly nation, that has been a destination for invaders, colonists and immigrants for more than 2 millennia.
Just because some of the more recent arrivals are sporting a slighter darker shade of skin doesn't make them any more or less English than Normans, Vikings or Celts.
Maybe an 'ethnically English' race did exist once upon a time, but in the year 2016 we English are a smorgasbord of ethnicities and cultural influences.
In the age of multiculturalism and constantly shifting populations it's not unusual to find people who identify with multiple nationalities, cultures and/or ethnicities.
Hmmm, let's also not forget that ethnicity is only an incredibly small part of the genome - not that it really works like that anyway.
To say someone is '100% genetically Nigerian' is a bit daft.

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 12:42
by jamesmcdonnell
Lenny Cravats wrote:
Taki... wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:Froch is not full Polish, part Polish and part English. Whereas genetically Joshua is 100% African .
If science is to be believed every human on the planet is 100% genetically African.

We live in a land, latterly nation, that has been a destination for invaders, colonists and immigrants for more than 2 millennia.
Just because some of the more recent arrivals are sporting a slighter darker shade of skin doesn't make them any more or less English than Normans, Vikings or Celts.
Maybe an 'ethnically English' race did exist once upon a time, but in the year 2016 we English are a smorgasbord of ethnicities and cultural influences.
In the age of multiculturalism and constantly shifting populations it's not unusual to find people who identify with multiple nationalities, cultures and/or ethnicities.
Hmmm, let's also not forget that ethnicity is only an incredibly small part of the genome - not that it really works like that anyway.
To say someone is '100% genetically Nigerian' is a bit daft.
Yep, considering that people have been moving throughout the African continent for the last 100,000 years at , it's not very likely.

Re: Is Carl Froch English?

Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 13:16
by Boxerbeetle
Taansend wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:
Taansend wrote:
Wasn't Joshua's maternal grandfather a Paddy?

I'm sure he said that in an interview a while back :maybe:
I think that's Dilian Whyte
I know that Whyte's grandad was a Paddy but also heard that Joshua's mum's dad was too. This article mentions it but doesn't go into any detail.

http://irishpost.co.uk/anthony-joshua-v ... anny-rule/
Plot twist - they have the same grandad :oo