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Ricky_ wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

And he had Joshua chicken dancing with the only clean shot he landed. Joshua is world champion (lol) now, there will be much better version of Whyte sharing ring with him soon.

Call me one better version of Dillian Whyte? I think Dillian would win against Wilder for example.

You're asking me for opponents more dangerous to Joshua than Whyte? Povetkin, Klitchko, Pulev, Ortiz, Browne

I think Whyte would win against them all actually, very maybe not Klitschko but that's really it.

actjac wrote:The next big thing is the era that we are embarking on especially as they are matched with each other. . . . . .Joshua, Wilder, Parker, Tyson and Hughie Fury with good competiton following in Rivas, Ruiz and Zhielei

Rivas is finished and Ruiz is a worthless tub of goo.

Joshua came to pro world by the best way possible...Olimpic gold taken in his home city.

That saved him a couple of years of fighting club level guys chasing for the paychecks.

Till now he is managed and promoted perfectly, so he has most of the chances to get right fights in a right timing.

That's why he is the best prospect(with a belt) in the area.

Its too early to say. Because Joseph Parker.

There was no chicken dance from Joshua in the Whyte fight. Take a look at it, the left hand he gets caught with would have put most heavyweights these days on the arse. he was rocked and he took a couple of big hits afterwards, but he was back in control quickly and came through it. It was a test and he did well.

I don`t claim he`s the next Lennox Lewis, but he will be a major force in the division for certain.

The only guys I see him beating him right now is Ortiz and possibly Fury.

forcefraser wrote:There was no chicken dance from Joshua in the Whyte fight. Take a look at it, the left hand he gets caught with would have put most heavyweights these days on the arse. he was rocked and he took a couple of big hits afterwards, but he was back in control quickly and came through it. It was a test and he did well.

I don`t claim he`s the next Lennox Lewis, but he will be a major force in the division for certain.

The only guys I see him beating him right now is Ortiz and possibly Fury.

There was definitely a bit of a chicken dance going on there. But he did recover, had a slow few rounds, got his composure back and got the win. Everyone said that the left hand would have knocked out 'most heavyweights', but are we really sure the punch was that good? I mean I think Whyte survived a lot worse from Joshua. Yeah he may well have caught Joshua well, and wobbled him, but it's hard to tell how good the punch was because it's the only one that has landed in 16 fights...

Ricky_ wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Like Dillian Whyte?

Great post, asdfjkl, my thoughts exactly. Whyte may be lacking in defensive skills and fitness, but he's the very definition of an opponent with a solid chin who can bang back.

And he had Joshua chicken dancing with the only clean shot he landed. Joshua is world champion (lol) now, there will be much better version of Whyte sharing ring with him soon.

All that proved was that Joshua's chin isn't in the Oliver McCall category - Tyson Fury would probably have been decked by the same punch. Joshua fought a reckless but entertaining fight against Whyte and still came through, so at least we know he's more durable than David Price. It's way too early to write Joshua off, but also too early to proclaim him as the best heavyweight out there - others may turn out to be better, but so far he's probably the most likely candidate for being the next dominant champ. How he would deal with Parker's power and faster hands would be very interesting to see - although Parker's got to get through a couple of stiff tests for that to happen.

Well here's the clip.
https://gfycat.com/ConstantColorfulHeifer

I mean he did take it fairly well, he defended himself okay,, but not brilliantly, though I don't think it was near the punch people make it out to be, it was a good punch, but far from spectacular. I think his vulnerability to body shots is probably worse than his chin, though a lot of heavyweights don't work the body so much.

jezzamundo wrote:How he would deal with Parker's power and faster hands would be very interesting to see - although Parker's got to get through a couple of stiff tests for that to happen.

Parker will probably become the mandatory if he wins against Carlos Takam. Takam is by a massive distance his best opponend yet.

BitPlayer wrote:Well here's the clip.
https://gfycat.com/ConstantColorfulHeifer

I mean he did take it fairly well, he defended himself okay,, but not brilliantly, though I don't think it was near the punch people make it out to be, it was a good punch, but far from spectacular. I think his vulnerability to body shots is probably worse than his chin, though a lot of heavyweights don't work the body so much.

Good comment on the body shots - I noticed that too and was more worried about how he was reacting to the body shots than when he was buzzed by the left hook.

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:How he would deal with Parker's power and faster hands would be very interesting to see - although Parker's got to get through a couple of stiff tests for that to happen.

Parker will probably become the mandatory if he wins against Carlos Takam. Takam is by a massive distance his best opponend yet.

Definitely, I see that as close to a 50:50 fight. Parker is definitely the more naturally gifted, but Takam has a big advantage in experience. If Parker gets through that, I see him beating the Pulev-Chisora winner and getting his title shot.

jezzamundo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:How he would deal with Parker's power and faster hands would be very interesting to see - although Parker's got to get through a couple of stiff tests for that to happen.

Parker will probably become the mandatory if he wins against Carlos Takam. Takam is by a massive distance his best opponend yet.

Definitely, I see that as close to a 50:50 fight. Parker is definitely the more naturally gifted, but Takam has a big advantage in experience. If Parker gets through that, I see him beating the Pulev-Chisora winner and getting his title shot.

He doesn't need to fight Chisora or Pulev any more

no its fury, hes same age as joshua

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:How he would deal with Parker's power and faster hands would be very interesting to see - although Parker's got to get through a couple of stiff tests for that to happen.

Parker will probably become the mandatory if he wins against Carlos Takam. Takam is by a massive distance his best opponend yet.

That's what I thought initially but the IBf recently announced the winners of Parker/Takam and Pulev/chisora will fight to be mandatory.

I don't mind as it will show if Parker is legit or not plus he would end up with a better resume than AJ as now way does AJ fight better opponents in his next two fights.

depends who he fights, if fury boxes him in Klitschko's style, fury wins for me and he can box like that well underrated , still think haye could pick his shots and ko aj .and if wilder hit aj with a shot like whyte did he would still be getting up

I'd say he's the biggest right now and definitely the front runner of what could be the next generation of real world heavyweight contenders we're getting through.

Joshua, Parker, Breazeale, Ruiz Jr, Miller, Fury (Hughie) you can't say you won't see these names around the world title contenders in the next few years

man wrote:for me: yes.

Only if he is managed like Wilder.

asdfjkl wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Call me one better version of Dillian Whyte? I think Dillian would win against Wilder for example.

You're asking me for opponents more dangerous to Joshua than Whyte? Povetkin, Klitchko, Pulev, Ortiz, Browne

I think Whyte would win against them all actually, very maybe not Klitschko but that's really it.

Whyte is really underrated, keep hearing phrases like he's "domestic class" etc, if he's fit he will give any HW serious problems, kicks like a mule and he's got the heart of a Lion, Im sure he'll win some big fights in the future.