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Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 17:46
by BAD INTENTIONS
Boxing Prospect wrote:Wins over Niida, Takayama, Hirales-Garcia,Rodriguez, Yaegashi, Fuentes, Estrada,Yaegashi, Sosa, Viloria and Arroyo doesn't compare?
A 3 weight champion who won his first title almost 8 years ago is just "emerging"?
Truth is he's just emerging.in the US market, reality is he's a fighter who has emerged as a world class talent before Kovalev had even made his pro debut.
Can't wait for Inoue to make his US debut and see fans say he's never fought in front of an audience like the HBO one whilst his fights on Fuji T.v. draw draw circa 8million viewers...
N***** please ... Don't play that US ignorance shit with me.
You get Niida and Estrada ... very good wins.
Fuentes, Viloria and Arroyo are okay.
After that, there's nothing a p4p #1 fighter should have to mention.
GGG has beaten better opposition more impressively.
Also, he won world titles at 105, 108 and 112.
Just read that sentence aloud so you could realize how ridiculous that sounds. 105 and 108. Ridiculous.
Belt spamming 140 and below.
Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 18:23
by BAD INTENTIONS
You could be a 5 division champion by starting at 105 and gaining 13 pounds.
And Gonzalez wasn't really a 105 pound fighter. He just
dropped down 
a couple of times for the belt.
So, he's a 3 division champion by gaining 4 pounds.
What the f*** are we really discussing here?
Boxing is too stupid to waste time debating.
FIX BOXING
Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 18:27
by Boxing Prospect
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:Wins over Niida, Takayama, Hirales-Garcia,Rodriguez, Yaegashi, Fuentes, Estrada,Yaegashi, Sosa, Viloria and Arroyo doesn't compare?
A 3 weight champion who won his first title almost 8 years ago is just "emerging"?
Truth is he's just emerging.in the US market, reality is he's a fighter who has emerged as a world class talent before Kovalev had even made his pro debut.
Can't wait for Inoue to make his US debut and see fans say he's never fought in front of an audience like the HBO one whilst his fights on Fuji T.v. draw draw circa 8million viewers...
N***** please ... Don't play that US ignorance poo with me.
You get Niida and Estrada ... very good wins.
Fuentes, Viloria and Arroyo are okay.
After that, there's nothing a p4p #1 fighter should have to mention.
GGG has beaten better opposition more impressively.
Also, he won world titles at 105, 108 and 112.
Just read that sentence aloud so you could realize how ridiculous that sounds. 105 and 108. Ridiculous.
Belt spamming 140 and below.
The fact you don't recognize wins over Takayama and Yaegashi as good wins says it all.
Golovkon has beaten a better guy than the then lineal flyweight champion huh...
Yup he's won titles at 3 of the lower weights, weights that are 1lb closer together than the jump from Super Banramweight to Super Featherweight...and I can't remember seeing Rigo doing that. And its only 1lb less than 160 to 168...I can't remember Golovkin beating the linear champion at 168...
Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 18:43
by dberry
Chepppaaa wrote:rigondeaux is the best boxer p4p on the planet.
gonzales is the boxer p4p who achieved the most.
Let's be clear about it, this "p4p" thing is purely subjective, so this list is whoever you think should be on it, number 1 is, for you, whoever you believe it should be. Only a sad loser with too much time on their hands would keep on starting threads about it on a public forum, get in to arguments with strangers over the Internet about it, keep on complaining who boxing magazines, who clearly only use this as a marketing ploy to sell to casual fans. Ok, I see you prefer to watch Rigondeaux over Gonzales, good for you champ.
Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 25 Apr 2016, 20:17
by Chepppaaa
dberry wrote:Chepppaaa wrote:rigondeaux is the best boxer p4p on the planet.
gonzales is the boxer p4p who achieved the most.
Let's be clear about it, this "p4p" thing is purely subjective, so this list is whoever you think should be on it, number 1 is, for you, whoever you believe it should be. Only a sad loser with too much time on their hands would keep on starting threads about it on a public forum, get in to arguments with strangers over the Internet about it, keep on complaining who boxing magazines, who clearly only use this as a marketing ploy to sell to casual fans. Ok, I see you prefer to watch Rigondeaux over Gonzales, good for you champ.
i like watching ggg more than rigo, cause i like knock outs and action. but this doesnt make ggg a better boxer than rigo. me, its only about quality of a boxer when judging p4p. my favurite boxers are always action boxers.
Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 10:47
by Baby Face Finster
Rigondull is also not the best boxer. He's gotten knocked down a few times. P4P #1 is Triple G, Kovalev or Ward.
Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 10:54
by hurricanemitch14
Baby Face Finster wrote:Rigondull is also not the best boxer. He's gotten knocked down a few times. P4P #1 is Triple G, Kovalev or Ward.
Totally agree!!!!
Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 12:55
by BAD INTENTIONS
Boxing Prospect wrote:BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:Wins over Niida, Takayama, Hirales-Garcia,Rodriguez, Yaegashi, Fuentes, Estrada,Yaegashi, Sosa, Viloria and Arroyo doesn't compare?
A 3 weight champion who won his first title almost 8 years ago is just "emerging"?
Truth is he's just emerging.in the US market, reality is he's a fighter who has emerged as a world class talent before Kovalev had even made his pro debut.
Can't wait for Inoue to make his US debut and see fans say he's never fought in front of an audience like the HBO one whilst his fights on Fuji T.v. draw draw circa 8million viewers...
N***** please ... Don't play that US ignorance poo with me.
You get Niida and Estrada ... very good wins.
Fuentes, Viloria and Arroyo are okay.
After that, there's nothing a p4p #1 fighter should have to mention.
GGG has beaten better opposition more impressively.
Also, he won world titles at 105, 108 and 112.
Just read that sentence aloud so you could realize how ridiculous that sounds. 105 and 108. Ridiculous.
Belt spamming 140 and below.
The fact you don't recognize wins over Takayama and Yaegashi as good wins says it all.
Golovkon has beaten a better guy than the then lineal flyweight champion huh...
Yup he's won titles at 3 of the lower weights, weights that are 1lb closer together than the jump from Super Banramweight to Super Featherweight...and I can't remember seeing Rigo doing that. And its only 1lb less than 160 to 168...I can't remember Golovkin beating the linear champion at 168...
Neither one of those guys really come up big against good opposition. So, they aren't really resume builders.
It seems like you have to do some real fishing to justify this guy at #1 p4p. That's all I'm saying.
(Note - I've seen none of these fights. I have no idea how corrupt the decisions are)
Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 14:45
by SaadOffTheDeck
If you haven't seen any of these guys fight than how can you comment on their status? Yaegashi is better than anyone GGG has beaten.
Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 16:10
by Boxing Prospect
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:If you haven't seen any of these guys fight than how can you comment on their status? Yaegashi is better than anyone GGG has beaten.
Anyone who suggests Yaegashi isn't a good win really shows their lack of knowledge in regards to the lower weights...and iit's a shame as Yaegashi is the perfect combination of talented and exciting...the sort of guy fight fans should be doing all they can to see
Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 19:32
by ClivePatrickLyons
Boxing is in serious trouble if Roman is the best in any weight[P4P]
Re: Lets be clear about it
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 19:38
by punchoutsb
Boxing Prospect wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:If you haven't seen any of these guys fight than how can you comment on their status? Yaegashi is better than anyone GGG has beaten.
Anyone who suggests Yaegashi isn't a good win really shows their lack of knowledge in regards to the lower weights...and iit's a shame as Yaegashi is the perfect combination of talented and exciting...the sort of guy fight fans should be doing all they can to see
You shouldn't be surprised at who was suggesting it.