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Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 16:04
by craigjenkins05
People say pacman was so far past his best when him and floyd fought but he just beat the shit out of Bradley who's been a top five welterweight for a few years now
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 16:09
by crusader
craigjenkins05 wrote:People say pacman was so far past his best when him and floyd fought but he just beat the poo out of Bradley who's been a top five welterweight for a few years now
True, but I think it's clear he wasn't the whirlwind Manny that threw loads of punches and knocked guys out. He was still an elite boxer, but his power didn't seem to be there to the same extent and he'd become much more reserved in his attacks, which explains the long string of decision wins.
Not that he would've ever beaten Mayweather, but I think he would've stood a better chance several years earlier IMO. You can say Floyd wasn't at his best either, but I think the changes in Pac were more pronounced and of a type that hurt him more.
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 16:11
by SaadOffTheDeck
crusader wrote:craigjenkins05 wrote:People say pacman was so far past his best when him and floyd fought but he just beat the poo out of Bradley who's been a top five welterweight for a few years now
True, but I think it's clear he wasn't the whirlwind Manny that threw loads of punches and knocked guys out. He was still an elite boxer, but his power didn't seem to be there to the same extent and he'd become much more reserved in his attacks, which explains the long string of decision wins.
Not that he would've ever beaten Mayweather, but I think he would've stood a better chance several years earlier IMO. You can say Floyd wasn't at his best either, but I think the changes in Pac were more pronounced and of a nature that hurt him more.
I'd like to think that the pinnacle of his PED use Manny would have pressed Floyd, probably wouldn't have. Same with Chavez/Whitaker.
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 26 Apr 2016, 16:17
by Stevieb8006
De la Hoya deserved the nod. Castillo obviously.
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 21:56
by Vinsanity
You guys are fucked maidana only won 3-4 rounds in the first fight but in the second Floyd got bayless because he was worried that maidana will swarm him again. The only arguement is Castillo which I had Castillo winning and I watched it with no audio like Floyd told us to do LMAAO and he still lost for sure
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 02:07
by SaadOffTheDeck
Stevieb8006 wrote:De la Hoya deserved the nod.
Damn bro, you missed the last nine rounds!
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 02:51
by Stevieb8006
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Stevieb8006 wrote:De la Hoya deserved the nod.
Damn bro, you missed the last nine rounds!
Stopped reading at "bro"
just kidding mate, thought dlh just squeaked it, but hey, it was def open to interpretation
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 02:56
by kidbazooka1
Most knowledgeable fans know Castillo won that first fight, heck even Floyd knew he lost it thats why he wanted the rematch right away.
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 04:52
by Ian1973
I agree with most here he clearly lost the first Castillo fight. I don't think he lost any others.
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 06:21
by davie
The Canelo fight was 114-114 apparently.....
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 28 Apr 2016, 08:35
by Keko
JohnL wrote:De La Hoya controlled their fight with the jab. Deserved the win. Castillo bulled him all over the ring also.
I agree but
judging
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 08:28
by magwitch
jezzamundo wrote:I had Castillo beating him 115-111 although I acknowledge it could be scored closer, that's the one that stands out the most. I have no problem with anyone scoring the first Maidana fight against him either, though I had it a draw. I scored the Pacquiao fight to Floyd by a single point, but could see it wider to Floyd. The Judah fight was closer than the cards indicate too - Zab could be given five rounds (though I gave him four) and should have been credited with a KD.
To answer your question, yes, once, to Castillo.
I might watch Maidana Mayweather tonight. I missed them. Was it the first or the second where he really took it to him and put him under? First I think....
Wonder how much Maidana got from fighting Floyd two times.......more than a few world champs I shouldn’t wonder. Good on him
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 10:05
by reggaereggae
Stevieb8006 wrote:De la Hoya deserved the nod. Castillo obviously.
Yeah Not sure why De La Hoya got stiffed on that one as he was the bigger name. I have seen highlights as well as the full fight several times and I belive Oscar won by 2 clear rounds.
Regardless I wonder if he dressed in women's underwear afterwards?
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 11:39
by jezzamundo
reggaereggae wrote:Stevieb8006 wrote:De la Hoya deserved the nod. Castillo obviously.
Yeah Not sure why De La Hoya got stiffed on that one as he was the bigger name. I have seen highlights as well as the full fight several times and I belive Oscar won by 2 clear rounds.
Regardless I wonder if he dressed in women's underwear afterwards?
I disagree that Oscar got stiffed - it was a close fight that could have gone either way and the decision was fair. I had Floyd winning by one point.
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 12:09
by SaadOffTheDeck
I didn't think it was close. 3-3 at the midway point and Floyd swept the rest. I suppose you could give Oscar every benefit and make it 7-5 Floyd. Not as comprehensive as Whitaker outboxing Oscar, but close.
Re: Mayweather Jr - Did he ever lose?
Posted: 29 Apr 2016, 14:16
by Monte Fisto
magwitch wrote:jezzamundo wrote:I had Castillo beating him 115-111 although I acknowledge it could be scored closer, that's the one that stands out the most. I have no problem with anyone scoring the first Maidana fight against him either, though I had it a draw. I scored the Pacquiao fight to Floyd by a single point, but could see it wider to Floyd. The Judah fight was closer than the cards indicate too - Zab could be given five rounds (though I gave him four) and should have been credited with a KD.
To answer your question, yes, once, to Castillo.
I might watch Maidana Mayweather tonight. I missed them. Was it the first or the second where he really took it to him and put him under? First I think....
Wonder how much Maidana got from fighting Floyd two times.......more than a few world champs I shouldn’t wonder. Good on him
yes was the first fight you want to watch. He got paid a fortune, and sadly for us (as a result) we won't see him fight again. Very deserving though, i loved Maidana. He put it all on the line. Maidana gave us some great dust-ups Mayweather, Khan, Broner, Ortiz to name a few.