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Re: Should boxing have one major governing body?
Posted: 05 May 2016, 16:37
by Kalan
YES..YES.. YES.. IT works for GOLF and TENNIS... Right now we have nothing but confusion.. ducking.. and cherry picking
That's why the NBA and ABA merged... That's why the NFL and AFL merged... That's why the NFL merged with that other entities.
Right now it's massive corruption and payoffs... Gennady Golovkin has been waiting 7 years for a Lineal TItle shot.
Re: Should boxing have one major governing body?
Posted: 05 May 2016, 21:21
by world ranked
Kalan wrote:YES..YES.. YES.. IT works for GOLF and TENNIS... Right now we have nothing but confusion.. ducking.. and cherry picking
That's why the NBA and ABA merged... That's why the NFL and AFL merged... That's why the NFL merged with that other entities.
Right now it's massive corruption and payoffs... Gennady Golovkin has been waiting 7 years for a Lineal TItle shot.
How long where those merges?
Re: Should boxing have one major governing body?
Posted: 05 May 2016, 22:29
by marvelous marv
One solution could be ranking all fighters, even ones with belts in other organizations and creating more mandatory fights among the elite level fighters.
Re: Should boxing have one major governing body?
Posted: 05 May 2016, 22:33
by gilgamesh
marvelous marv wrote:One solution could be ranking all fighters, even ones with belts in other organizations and creating more mandatory fights among the elite level fighters.
There's absolutely no need for more than one World Champion in any division. There's no possible justification for it IMO. I have no issue with Regional Champions like say "Italian Champion", "British Champion", "Canadian Champion", "European Champion"...etc.
But I don't see any justification for 4 or more "World" champions per division. It's just stupid.
Re: Should boxing have one major governing body?
Posted: 06 May 2016, 00:11
by marvelous marv
I agree that having less world champions is better. What I would prefer is a system where champions would become one another's mandatory. Take the WBC making GGG its mandatory fight for WBC champ Canelo even though he is a belt holder for other organizations. This sort of thing needs to be more widespread than the middleweight division or the cherrypickers will never take risks.
Re: Should boxing have one major governing body?
Posted: 06 May 2016, 01:07
by Kalan
world ranked wrote:Kalan wrote:YES..YES.. YES.. IT works for GOLF and TENNIS... Right now we have nothing but confusion.. ducking.. and cherry picking
That's why the NBA and ABA merged... That's why the NFL and AFL merged... That's why the NFL merged with that other entities.
Right now it's massive corruption and payoffs... Gennady Golovkin has been waiting 7 years for a Lineal TItle shot.
How long where those merges?
WTF do you mean how LONG were those mergers? ... They're still MERGED and will be forever. Golf and Tennis the same way. You merge 2 organizations, over power the 3rd group and incorporate them in...and relegate the others to irrelevance and laughingstocks. You have minor league basketball and minor league baseball. Those are farm teams where the athletes make no money. Nobody pays any attention to them nationally. Boxing had other entities and "World Champions" back in the 30's, 40's, and 50's. Nobody paid too much attention to them. It time for Boxing to get with it because the most talented boxers in the world are being walled off from big fights by the orgs, Haymon's, DLH's, Mayweather's, Arum's etc. Mayweather fighting Berto instead of Thurman... Khan fighting Algieri instead of Brook... Pacquiao fighting Bradley instead of Crawford... Canelo fighting Khan instead of Golovkin... Adonis Chickenson ducking Kovalev to fight 3rd raters forever... Luis Ortiz not getting appropriate fights... Garcia looking to fight Berto instead of Spence... The garbage matchups never stop and the toughest guys are shut out.
Re: Should boxing have one major governing body?
Posted: 06 May 2016, 16:44
by Kalan
Lennox wrote:[The best organisation is the IBO, by far the worst is the WBA, the WBO and IBF are pretty bad which leaves the WBC as the best.
The WBC is the most corrupt... They take payoffs almost overtly...but they're all corrupt... Boxing is the most corrupt it's ever been... They took Cotto's title because he didn't pay an unbelievably exorbitant fee... after allowing him 2 "exception" Title Defenses for fees... How do you win a World Title from a guy who's stripped of it???? The title SHOULD have gone to "interim" WBC Champion Gennady Golovkin.
Re: Should boxing have one major governing body?
Posted: 06 May 2016, 16:55
by gilgamesh
Kalan wrote:Lennox wrote:[The best organisation is the IBO, by far the worst is the WBA, the WBO and IBF are pretty bad which leaves the WBC as the best.
The WBC is the most corrupt... They take payoffs almost overtly...but they're all corrupt... Boxing is the most corrupt it's ever been... They took Cotto's title because he didn't pay an unbelievably exorbitant fee... after allowing him 2 "exception" Title Defenses for fees... How do you win a World Title from a guy who's stripped of it???? The title SHOULD have gone to "interim" WBC Champion Gennady Golovkin.
The WBA is terrible too with 3 Champions in several divisions, you couldn't even write a comedy sketch more ridiculous than that.
Re: Should boxing have one major governing body?
Posted: 06 May 2016, 17:35
by world ranked
Kalan wrote:world ranked wrote:Kalan wrote:YES..YES.. YES.. IT works for GOLF and TENNIS... Right now we have nothing but confusion.. ducking.. and cherry picking
That's why the NBA and ABA merged... That's why the NFL and AFL merged... That's why the NFL merged with that other entities.
Right now it's massive corruption and payoffs... Gennady Golovkin has been waiting 7 years for a Lineal TItle shot.
How long where those merges?
WTF do you mean how LONG were those mergers? ... They're still MERGED and will be forever. Golf and Tennis the same way. You merge 2 organizations, over power the 3rd group and incorporate them in...and relegate the others to irrelevance and laughingstocks. You have minor league basketball and minor league baseball. Those are farm teams where the athletes make no money. Nobody pays any attention to them nationally. Boxing had other entities and "World Champions" back in the 30's, 40's, and 50's. Nobody paid too much attention to them. It time for Boxing to get with it because the most talented boxers in the world are being walled off from big fights by the orgs, Haymon's, DLH's, Mayweather's, Arum's etc. Mayweather fighting Berto instead of Thurman... Khan fighting Algieri instead of Brook... Pacquiao fighting Bradley instead of Crawford... Canelo fighting Khan instead of Golovkin... Adonis Chickenson ducking Kovalev to fight 3rd raters forever... Luis Ortiz not getting appropriate fights... Garcia looking to fight Berto instead of Spence... The garbage matchups never stop and the toughest guys are shut out.
How long ago I meant those were things that happened 40+ years ago.