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Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:24
by Counter-puncher
Sisyphus wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote: Always liked Hunter
There's something sinister about him.

You sound just like Horse, you'll be ecstatic to hear.

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:25
by Stuarty
Nightmare Roy wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:No fvcking way does Canelo fight GGG. He looked crap last night, ko punch notwithstanding.
I'll believe it when I see it but the thing is he's been backed in to a corner now and a lot of folk from Canelos camp are going to look stupid if it doesn't happen. GGG would wipe the floor with him.
I think he will have to fight him, he'll be branded a coward by his own countrymen if he doesn't.
After his comments last night he has to. I just don't see how he gets round it without looking a total bottle merchant. I think Canelo would take the fight. It's Oscar and the other greedy pudenda around him that don't want it to happen because they know what's gonna happen.

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:26
by Stuarty
Counter-puncher wrote:
Sisyphus wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote: Always liked Hunter
There's something sinister about him.

You sound just like Horse, you'll be ecstatic to hear.
There was a new guy the other day that had a suspicious whiff of the Horse about him too!

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:29
by Sisyphus
Stuarty30 wrote:A suspicious whiff of the Horse about him too!
:lol:

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:29
by CharlesListon
Horse, are you multi-people-ing again?

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:33
by freddydoesdallas
Supremo wrote:Total respect for Khan. The boy is a true fighter he will get in a ring with anyone and believes he an beat anyone. Folk can call him "chinny"? Watch his fight with Maidana again and see how "chinny" he is.
No shame in getting KOd by Canelo.

Khan, like Froch will retire knowing EXACTLY how good he is because he's tested himself to the limit against all comers.

Carl Frampton and Kell Brook and all these other "champions" are so risk averse they'll never know how good they were because all they are interested in protecting their value.
Algieri, Collazo, salita, mccloskey etc were all about showing how good he was rather than protecting his value!

Khan has had a decent career but let's not make out he's a road warrior with the motto 'have gloves, will travel'. He's had a very carefully managed career which has showed by the status he is getting on here yet results show when he fights at world class, he usually loses

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:33
by Twinkle Toes
I thought Hunter was embarrassing with his mini rant against Canello, mind you it deflects away from what just happened to the fighter he coaches :TU:

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:40
by Sisyphus
CharlesListon wrote:Horse, are you multi-people-ing again?
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Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:41
by expe
Boxerbeetle wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
Spot on. Khan will be sorely missed when he's gone, and history will be kind to him despite the losses because of his excellent resume and his entertainment factor.
Am I missing something with the quality of his opposition and following through on fighting the best?

Is he going to canelo to the list of Garcia and Prescott who only beat him with a lucky punch?
Off the top of my head, he's beaten Maidana, Alexander, Collazo, Malignaggi & Judah. That's a solid set of wins. Obviously he's also faced (and been beaten by) Canelo, Garcia & Peterson. How many other British fighters have similar resumes?
Alvarez was the 13th world champion he's fought in his career, our 12 current world champions have fought 18 between them.

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:50
by magwitch
Naandrew wrote:Just watched the fight he was well into it until the sickening Ko punch.

Slate Khan all you want but at least he shows a desire to fight the best and follows through unlike certain fighters in this country.

I think that's the last we have seen of him to be honest.
Completely agree. I hope he has a long happy retirement. Always respected the way appealed to everyone as a 17yr old kid in some MAJOR limelight — the only boxer we sent to the Olympics that year.....in an era with religious nonsense going on - terrorism mugs. And on top of that the kid had flair, skill and a set of cojones we couldn’t have predicted.
I’ve loved following him. It was the wrong fight to take....made worse by having fought only 3 times since I saw him in April 2013!
But......stupid match up or not, there’s no doubt that he tried to win and believed he could. Respect!

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:53
by freddydoesdallas
expe wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Am I missing something with the quality of his opposition and following through on fighting the best?

Is he going to canelo to the list of Garcia and Prescott who only beat him with a lucky punch?
Off the top of my head, he's beaten Maidana, Alexander, Collazo, Malignaggi & Judah. That's a solid set of wins. Obviously he's also faced (and been beaten by) Canelo, Garcia & Peterson. How many other British fighters have similar resumes?
Alvarez was the 13th world champion he's fought in his career, our 12 current world champions have fought 18 between them.
All about timing though. I'd say Alvarez, Garcia and Peterson were at or near their best.

Barrera, molina, diaz, Collazo, Malignaggi, Alexander, St clair and Judah had all seen better days.

Frampton seems to be going in a decent direction. Martinez was a decent start, we would never have forgiven quite or frampton if they didn't fight and santa crazy is a good opponent to measure his abilities.

Khan is a good fighter but his career flatters to deceive. Has he been entertaining, definitely. Is he a world class boxer, definitely not.

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:55
by SNG
Nonsense, Freddy.

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 06:59
by liamlion
expe wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Am I missing something with the quality of his opposition and following through on fighting the best?

Is he going to canelo to the list of Garcia and Prescott who only beat him with a lucky punch?
Off the top of my head, he's beaten Maidana, Alexander, Collazo, Malignaggi & Judah. That's a solid set of wins. Obviously he's also faced (and been beaten by) Canelo, Garcia & Peterson. How many other British fighters have similar resumes?
Alvarez was thae 13th world champion he's fought in his career, our 12 current world champions have fought 18 between them.
Sadly that stat is meaningless without context... For example, how many reigning world champions has Khan fought? If any of them werent reigning world champions, how long prior to fighting khan were they last world champion? what were the ages of those world champions (or ex world champions) when khan fought them? What weight division did khan fight the ex world champion in and what weight division did the ex-world champion win their title in? Etc etc...

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 07:05
by freddydoesdallas
SNG wrote:Nonsense, Freddy.
Which part of it?

Using brook as an example, which of the people Khan has beat would you give brook credit for beating?

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 07:43
by Switch hitter
Supremo wrote:Total respect for Khan. The boy is a true fighter he will get in a ring with anyone and believes he an beat anyone. Folk can call him "chinny"? Watch his fight with Maidana again and see how "chinny" he is.
No shame in getting KOd by Canelo.

Khan, like Froch will retire knowing EXACTLY how good he is because he's tested himself to the limit against all comers.

Carl Frampton and Kell Brook and all these other "champions" are so risk averse they'll never know how good they were because all they are interested in protecting their value.
Well Khan hasn't tested himself against Brook has he....I'm sure Brook is more than willing

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 08:02
by mullenman
Fair play Amir

Great fight last night

Canelo would knock out brook as well

Big fights ahead for khan but at 147

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 08:15
by TheCobra
Fair play to Amir, quite a clever fight for him to take in a way. Sort of a no lose situation, he can now say, hey I was out of my weight class anyway, get me another big fight at my own weight. Will be quids in from last night in a big way and can go back to his own weight still with some sort of reputation intact.

As people have said, if he'd taken the Brook fight, he'd have probably got chinned and been finished, plus would have been on less money than last night. Good career management, although obviously still brave to take on Canelo, a shame Khan just doesn't have a good defence to match his hand speed.

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 08:18
by BitPlayer
He deserves a ton of credit.

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 08:30
by Webbo911
Anybody know how much he got paid?

Uk papers were talking crazy numbers. Think the commentary team mentioned $6 million.

Either way with what he's already earned before last night he can retire a happy man if he chooses.

I'd love to see him win a big, career defining fight before he called it a day though.

I'd favour Brook over Khan but not by loads. Garcia rematch would be tough but it's definitely winnable.

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 08:51
by freddydoesdallas
Webbo911 wrote:Anybody know how much he got paid?

Uk papers were talking crazy numbers. Think the commentary team mentioned $6 million.

Either way with what he's already earned before last night he can retire a happy man if he chooses.

I'd love to see him win a big, career defining fight before he called it a day though.

I'd favour Brook over Khan but not by loads. Garcia rematch would be tough but it's definitely winnable.
I've seen figures of $9m for canelo and $5m for Khan.

Do you think Khan has improved much since the first Garcia fight?

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 08:53
by Boxerbeetle
Switch hitter wrote:
Supremo wrote:Total respect for Khan. The boy is a true fighter he will get in a ring with anyone and believes he an beat anyone. Folk can call him "chinny"? Watch his fight with Maidana again and see how "chinny" he is.
No shame in getting KOd by Canelo.

Khan, like Froch will retire knowing EXACTLY how good he is because he's tested himself to the limit against all comers.

Carl Frampton and Kell Brook and all these other "champions" are so risk averse they'll never know how good they were because all they are interested in protecting their value.
Well Khan hasn't tested himself against Brook has he....I'm sure Brook is more than willing
Yeah Brook has proved more than willing to fight the best throughout his career, his resume is incredible.

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 08:54
by handsofstone
Felt for Khan last night, I thought he was excellent for the most part,used the ring well,he caught Alvarez with a beautiful 1/2 in the opener and showed great lateral movement throughout, I gave him first 4 rounds before Canelo started to find his range, still the KO was out of nowhere ,Amir just switched off,looked as if he got stuck in 2 minds whether to jab or parry and Alvarez struck with a right hand which TBF would've KOd most

Loved Hunter calling out Alvarez to fight Golovkin

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 09:01
by Sklar
BigDoofus wrote:While we're at it let's big up Matthew Hatton for going the distance with Alvarez...
Agreed. Proper hard pudendum Matt Hatton.

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 09:09
by Counter-puncher
CharlesListon wrote:Horse, are you multi-people-ing again?

You should be considering a different kind of farmyard animal

Re: Big Up - Amir Khan

Posted: 08 May 2016, 09:10
by Counter-puncher
Sklar wrote:
BigDoofus wrote:While we're at it let's big up Matthew Hatton for going the distance with Alvarez...
Agreed. Proper hard pudendum Matt Hatton.

Indeed.