BoxRec

I agree

caldo2025 wrote:Pump the breaks dudes. This story about the sparring session couldn't be more insignificant when determining a possible fight outcome. The only thing it is, is entertaining. I love hearing training stories about the mixing of stars in a sweat drenched gym with only a few witnesses but making a big deal about two guys 4 years ago training together for 18 minutes is silliness and a waste of time.

I'm a GGG but I have to admit that i've never seen a boxer improve so much and so quickly than Canelo has the last couple of years. Against Lara, he was awful. Canelo just chased Lara around instead of cutting off the ring and throwing wild shots. I walked away that night thinking Canelo was shot and nothing but a hyped up red haired Mexican novelty item.

I know Khan is no GGG but Canelo couldn't have cut the ring off any better. The body work is much improved. He's got some really slick faints and combo's now. He's twice the fighter he was 4 years ago. I feel comfortable saying that. If Canelo is clean then he should be given credit for working this hard. Sparring means nothing

Canelo doesn't look any different than he did before fighting Floyd, with his feints, vicious combinations, etc. He looks a bit bigger after he re-hydrates, but that's about it. Some were fooled by his KO's of Kirkland and Angulo, who had a style that was tailor made for Canelo, and who both had massive 40+ lb weight cuts in short times before the fight, so had little left fight night. He was exposed by a master boxer (Floyd), and was definitely losing to a decent boxer (Khan), before getting a big shot in. If Khan had a good chin, (well, and a fully functioning brain) he would have decisioned Canelo easily. (except maybe on the judges cards, where he would have lost in a similar way Lara did)

But anyway, carry on with your build up of Canelo and how good he is now, just in case he gives your hero GGG a real test.

Tanzio wrote:He won't need to cut the ring off versus GGG

Golovkin will be controlling the ring with his back to center ring and using his jab like he did versus Lemieux... Canelo easily controlled Khan with his better jab and his better boxing ability.. Canelo was beating Khan on points after 5 rounds and dominating the 6th with quick right hands.. Those weapons are starting to shape up for Canelo in the last 3 years.. But Khan is a very poor boxer and super punchable... Lara and Floyd were much better boxers than Khan and they outscored Canelo by a ton... Golovkin is an even better boxer than Lara or Floyd. He'll beat Canelo by a much bigger margin than Lara or Floyd did. They managed a SD and a MD. Golovkin will turn in a UD - or more likely a KO destruction of Canelo.

Kalan wrote:

Tanzio wrote:He won't need to cut the ring off versus GGG

Golovkin will be controlling the ring with his back to center ring and using his jab like he did versus Lemieux... Canelo easily controlled Khan with his better jab and his better boxing ability.. Canelo was beating Khan on points after 5 rounds and dominating the 6th with quick right hands.. Those weapons are starting to shape up for Canelo in the last 3 years.. But Khan is a very poor boxer and super punchable... Lara and Floyd were much better boxers than Khan and they outscored Canelo by a ton... Golovkin is an even better boxer than Lara or Floyd. He'll beat Canelo by a much bigger margin than Lara or Floyd did. They managed a SD and a MD. Golovkin will turn in a UD - or more likely a KO destruction of Canelo.

Where to start with this horrible post? The vast majority of those who made an effort to score the fight on here had Khan winning the fight at the time of the stoppage, Khan 4-1 / 3-2 were by far the most common scores,so to suggest he was being easily controlled is ridiculous. Likewise, Floyd pitched a near shutout against Canelo in the minds of unbiased viewers. That was a textbook performance and was in no way close. GGG may very well stop Canelo but he's unlikely to beat him more clearly in the eyes of the majority if it goes to the cards, barring knockdowns.

Deadendgeneration wrote:

Kalan wrote:

Tanzio wrote:He won't need to cut the ring off versus GGG

Golovkin will be controlling the ring with his back to center ring and using his jab like he did versus Lemieux... Canelo easily controlled Khan with his better jab and his better boxing ability.. Canelo was beating Khan on points after 5 rounds and dominating the 6th with quick right hands.. Those weapons are starting to shape up for Canelo in the last 3 years.. But Khan is a very poor boxer and super punchable... Lara and Floyd were much better boxers than Khan and they outscored Canelo by a ton... Golovkin is an even better boxer than Lara or Floyd. He'll beat Canelo by a much bigger margin than Lara or Floyd did. They managed a SD and a MD. Golovkin will turn in a UD - or more likely a KO destruction of Canelo.

Where to start with this horrible post? The vast majority of those who made an effort to score the fight on here had Khan winning the fight at the time of the stoppage, Khan 4-1 / 3-2 were by far the most common scores,so to suggest he was being easily controlled is ridiculous. Likewise, Floyd pitched a near shutout against Canelo in the minds of unbiased viewers. That was a textbook performance and was in no way close. GGG may very well stop Canelo but he's unlikely to beat him more clearly in the eyes of the majority if it goes to the cards, barring knockdowns.

I think he'll beat him more clearly than Floyd, but only because a knockout is more clear than a decision. The Decision for Floyd was indeed a shutout for me. The official judges were very kind to Canelo that night. He barely laid a glove on Floyd.

gilgamesh wrote:

Deadendgeneration wrote:

Kalan wrote:
Golovkin will be controlling the ring with his back to center ring and using his jab like he did versus Lemieux... Canelo easily controlled Khan with his better jab and his better boxing ability.. Canelo was beating Khan on points after 5 rounds and dominating the 6th with quick right hands.. Those weapons are starting to shape up for Canelo in the last 3 years.. But Khan is a very poor boxer and super punchable... Lara and Floyd were much better boxers than Khan and they outscored Canelo by a ton... Golovkin is an even better boxer than Lara or Floyd. He'll beat Canelo by a much bigger margin than Lara or Floyd did. They managed a SD and a MD. Golovkin will turn in a UD - or more likely a KO destruction of Canelo.

Where to start with this horrible post? The vast majority of those who made an effort to score the fight on here had Khan winning the fight at the time of the stoppage, Khan 4-1 / 3-2 were by far the most common scores,so to suggest he was being easily controlled is ridiculous. Likewise, Floyd pitched a near shutout against Canelo in the minds of unbiased viewers. That was a textbook performance and was in no way close. GGG may very well stop Canelo but he's unlikely to beat him more clearly in the eyes of the majority if it goes to the cards, barring knockdowns.

I think he'll beat him more clearly than Floyd, but only because a knockout is more clear than a decision. The Decision for Floyd was indeed a shutout for me. The official judges were very kind to Canelo that night. He barely laid a glove on Floyd.[/quote

I completely agree, I think I might have given Canelo a share of a round at the time but probably just felt bad for him. This is coming from someone who really doesn't like Mayweather as a fighter or, in what little I really know about him, as a person. I'd actually expected him to be on the back foot for 12 rounds but he eventually took centre ring. Great display.

Agreed about GGG as well. He stoped Canelo mid-late after forcing to eat jabs all night.

Badhusker wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:Pump the breaks dudes. This story about the sparring session couldn't be more insignificant when determining a possible fight outcome. The only thing it is, is entertaining. I love hearing training stories about the mixing of stars in a sweat drenched gym with only a few witnesses but making a big deal about two guys 4 years ago training together for 18 minutes is silliness and a waste of time.

I'm a GGG but I have to admit that i've never seen a boxer improve so much and so quickly than Canelo has the last couple of years. Against Lara, he was awful. Canelo just chased Lara around instead of cutting off the ring and throwing wild shots. I walked away that night thinking Canelo was shot and nothing but a hyped up red haired Mexican novelty item.

I know Khan is no GGG but Canelo couldn't have cut the ring off any better. The body work is much improved. He's got some really slick faints and combo's now. He's twice the fighter he was 4 years ago. I feel comfortable saying that. If Canelo is clean then he should be given credit for working this hard. Sparring means nothing

Canelo doesn't look any different than he did before fighting Floyd, with his feints, vicious combinations, etc. He looks a bit bigger after he re-hydrates, but that's about it. Some were fooled by his KO's of Kirkland and Angulo, who had a style that was tailor made for Canelo, and who both had massive 40+ lb weight cuts in short times before the fight, so had little left fight night. He was exposed by a master boxer (Floyd), and was definitely losing to a decent boxer (Khan), before getting a big shot in. If Khan had a good chin, (well, and a fully functioning brain) he would have decisioned Canelo easily. (except maybe on the judges cards, where he would have lost in a similar way Lara did)

But anyway, carry on with your build up of Canelo and how good he is now, just in case he gives your hero GGG a real test.

Give the kid some credit dude. Canelo is the only boxer consistently signing on for tough fights. Lara, Kirkland, Cotto and Khan...tell me someone who has a tougher 4 fight stretch than that. Canelo was freaking 22 years old when he fought Floyd. Floyd signed that fight for a reason, he wanted to clip him while he was green. You obviously dislike the kid so probably not worth arguing with you but the kid's great for the game. Can't see how you had a problem with a boxer like that.

LOL, you think Khan was winning the fight and if you were him because you're so smart, you would have been smart enough to avoid Canelo's bombs for another 6 rounds? Khan didn't even make it through half the fight and you want to talk about how he was winning the fight? You can't come in last in a marathon and say you should have won just because you lead for the first 100 feet of the race.

Khan had a great first and second round but it was evident after that he'd never be able to box like that for 12 rounds. Canelo was winning the fight and going to win that fight no matter what. Delusional is what you are

crappy no-defence, no-stamina, never-beaten-nobody, lost-to-fricken-ISHIDA-FOR-FUCKSAKES Kirkland, or shot Cotto, are signing on for tough fights? Welterweight chinny Khan, tough fights?

caldo2025 wrote:
Khan had a great first and second round but it was evident after that he'd never be able to box like that for 12 rounds. Canelo was winning the fight and going to win that fight no matter what. Delusional is what you are

which is EXACTLY why we were all telling you, before the fight, that this was a shitty match and that tiny chinny welterwight Khan couldn't hang with a dude who was going to outweigh him by over 10 pounds, but you wouldn't listen.

Counter-puncher wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
Khan had a great first and second round but it was evident after that he'd never be able to box like that for 12 rounds. Canelo was winning the fight and going to win that fight no matter what. Delusional is what you are

which is EXACTLY why we were all telling you, before the fight, that this was a shitty match and that tiny chinny welterwight Khan couldn't hang with a dude who was going to outweigh him by over 10 pounds, but you wouldn't listen.

Yeah, I was very wrong. In my mind, the first round was how i thought that fight was going to go and felt that Khan would have to stave off some tough times late. When Canelo started attacking the body in the 3rd, I knew it was over. I think it was in the 3rd where Khan got stunned a bit and had those Khan rubber legs for a brief second. That's when i got up and got a sandwich and a beer and knew it wasn't going to be a special night.

But these people saying Khan was winning or could have after seeing the fight are jokes. The fight didn't go 6 rounds! How can someone almost win and should have won when the fight barely happened? But yeah, I was way off on the prediction or hope i had.

caldo2025 wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
Khan had a great first and second round but it was evident after that he'd never be able to box like that for 12 rounds. Canelo was winning the fight and going to win that fight no matter what. Delusional is what you are

which is EXACTLY why we were all telling you, before the fight, that this was a shitty match and that tiny chinny welterwight Khan couldn't hang with a dude who was going to outweigh him by over 10 pounds, but you wouldn't listen.

Yeah, I was very wrong. In my mind, the first round was how i thought that fight was going to go and felt that Khan would have to stave off some tough times late. When Canelo started attacking the body in the 3rd, I knew it was over. I think it was in the 3rd where Khan got stunned a bit and had those Khan rubber legs for a brief second. That's when i got up and got a sandwich and a beer and knew it wasn't going to be a special night.

But these people saying Khan was winning or could have after seeing the fight are jokes. The fight didn't go 6 rounds! How can someone almost win and should have won when the fight barely happened? But yeah, I was way off on the prediction or hope i had.

yeah.

so it was a shitty match.

and definitely not a good example of Canelo taking 'signing for tough fights'.

caldo2025 wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:Pump the breaks dudes. This story about the sparring session couldn't be more insignificant when determining a possible fight outcome. The only thing it is, is entertaining. I love hearing training stories about the mixing of stars in a sweat drenched gym with only a few witnesses but making a big deal about two guys 4 years ago training together for 18 minutes is silliness and a waste of time.

I'm a GGG but I have to admit that i've never seen a boxer improve so much and so quickly than Canelo has the last couple of years. Against Lara, he was awful. Canelo just chased Lara around instead of cutting off the ring and throwing wild shots. I walked away that night thinking Canelo was shot and nothing but a hyped up red haired Mexican novelty item.

I know Khan is no GGG but Canelo couldn't have cut the ring off any better. The body work is much improved. He's got some really slick faints and combo's now. He's twice the fighter he was 4 years ago. I feel comfortable saying that. If Canelo is clean then he should be given credit for working this hard. Sparring means nothing

Canelo doesn't look any different than he did before fighting Floyd, with his feints, vicious combinations, etc. He looks a bit bigger after he re-hydrates, but that's about it. Some were fooled by his KO's of Kirkland and Angulo, who had a style that was tailor made for Canelo, and who both had massive 40+ lb weight cuts in short times before the fight, so had little left fight night. He was exposed by a master boxer (Floyd), and was definitely losing to a decent boxer (Khan), before getting a big shot in. If Khan had a good chin, (well, and a fully functioning brain) he would have decisioned Canelo easily. (except maybe on the judges cards, where he would have lost in a similar way Lara did)

But anyway, carry on with your build up of Canelo and how good he is now, just in case he gives your hero GGG a real test.

Give the kid some credit dude. Canelo is the only boxer consistently signing on for tough fights. Lara, Kirkland, Cotto and Khan...tell me someone who has a tougher 4 fight stretch than that. Canelo was freaking 22 years old when he fought Floyd. Floyd signed that fight for a reason, he wanted to clip him while he was green. You obviously dislike the kid so probably not worth arguing with you but the kid's great for the game. Can't see how you had a problem with a boxer like that.

LOL, you think Khan was winning the fight and if you were him because you're so smart, you would have been smart enough to avoid Canelo's bombs for another 6 rounds? Khan didn't even make it through half the fight and you want to talk about how he was winning the fight? You can't come in last in a marathon and say you should have won just because you lead for the first 100 feet of the race.

Khan had a great first and second round but it was evident after that he'd never be able to box like that for 12 rounds. Canelo was winning the fight and going to win that fight no matter what. Delusional is what you are

Lara, Kirkland and Khan

dberry wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

Badhusker wrote:
Canelo doesn't look any different than he did before fighting Floyd, with his feints, vicious combinations, etc. He looks a bit bigger after he re-hydrates, but that's about it. Some were fooled by his KO's of Kirkland and Angulo, who had a style that was tailor made for Canelo, and who both had massive 40+ lb weight cuts in short times before the fight, so had little left fight night. He was exposed by a master boxer (Floyd), and was definitely losing to a decent boxer (Khan), before getting a big shot in. If Khan had a good chin, (well, and a fully functioning brain) he would have decisioned Canelo easily. (except maybe on the judges cards, where he would have lost in a similar way Lara did)

But anyway, carry on with your build up of Canelo and how good he is now, just in case he gives your hero GGG a real test.

Give the kid some credit dude. Canelo is the only boxer consistently signing on for tough fights. Lara, Kirkland, Cotto and Khan...tell me someone who has a tougher 4 fight stretch than that. Canelo was freaking 22 years old when he fought Floyd. Floyd signed that fight for a reason, he wanted to clip him while he was green. You obviously dislike the kid so probably not worth arguing with you but the kid's great for the game. Can't see how you had a problem with a boxer like that.

LOL, you think Khan was winning the fight and if you were him because you're so smart, you would have been smart enough to avoid Canelo's bombs for another 6 rounds? Khan didn't even make it through half the fight and you want to talk about how he was winning the fight? You can't come in last in a marathon and say you should have won just because you lead for the first 100 feet of the race.

Khan had a great first and second round but it was evident after that he'd never be able to box like that for 12 rounds. Canelo was winning the fight and going to win that fight no matter what. Delusional is what you are

Lara, Kirkland and Khan

If you remember, it was like pulling teeth to get Canelo to fight lara and even Trout, and we saw why. Anguelo and Kirkland, although sounded good on paper, had to cut from at or near 200 to make weight, and GB knew it. Cotto was a good fight, but we all know Cotto is past his best. Still, credit to Canelo for that win.
He barely beat Trout, and in my eyes did not beat Lara. Floyd, not a big welter, absolutely schooled Canelo, who weighed in one pound lighter than his previous fight (153) so you can't make a big issue on the weight. Now he cherry picks Khan, and says it isn't for the money? Khan isn't even a top 5 welter. We all knew the end result. Why not fight someone like Andrade instead? Golden Boy has been carefully matching Canelo, but casual fans don't notice. Its hilarious to me that both Canelo and Khan think their fight boosted their status. Again, casual fans are easily fooled. Canelo fought the guy that Floyd and Pac were "afraid" to fight. Give me a break.
Will Canelo take the GGG fight at 160? I think he will because much like the Trout and Lara fights, he will to avoid public embarrassment. The problem for him is that not only is GGG a better boxer, he is also a better puncher than Canelo.

So yeah, I am hard on Canelo, but am also honest and imo accurate in my assessment of his recent fights.

Badhusker wrote:

dberry wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
Give the kid some credit dude. Canelo is the only boxer consistently signing on for tough fights. Lara, Kirkland, Cotto and Khan...tell me someone who has a tougher 4 fight stretch than that. Canelo was freaking 22 years old when he fought Floyd. Floyd signed that fight for a reason, he wanted to clip him while he was green. You obviously dislike the kid so probably not worth arguing with you but the kid's great for the game. Can't see how you had a problem with a boxer like that.

LOL, you think Khan was winning the fight and if you were him because you're so smart, you would have been smart enough to avoid Canelo's bombs for another 6 rounds? Khan didn't even make it through half the fight and you want to talk about how he was winning the fight? You can't come in last in a marathon and say you should have won just because you lead for the first 100 feet of the race.

Khan had a great first and second round but it was evident after that he'd never be able to box like that for 12 rounds. Canelo was winning the fight and going to win that fight no matter what. Delusional is what you are

Lara, Kirkland and Khan

If you remember, it was like pulling teeth to get Canelo to fight lara and even Trout, and we saw why. Anguelo and Kirkland, although sounded good on paper, had to cut from at or near 200 to make weight, and GB knew it. Cotto was a good fight, but we all know Cotto is past his best. Still, credit to Canelo for that win.
He barely beat Trout, and in my eyes did not beat Lara. Floyd, not a big welter, absolutely schooled Canelo, who weighed in one pound lighter than his previous fight (153) so you can't make a big issue on the weight. Now he cherry picks Khan, and says it isn't for the money? Khan isn't even a top 5 welter. We all knew the end result. Why not fight someone like Andrade instead? Golden Boy has been carefully matching Canelo, but casual fans don't notice. Its hilarious to me that both Canelo and Khan think their fight boosted their status. Again, casual fans are easily fooled. Canelo fought the guy that Floyd and Pac were "afraid" to fight. Give me a break.
Will Canelo take the GGG fight at 160? I think he will because much like the Trout and Lara fights, he will to avoid public embarrassment. The problem for him is that not only is GGG a better boxer, he is also a better puncher than Canelo.

So yeah, I am hard on Canelo, but am also honest and imo accurate in my assessment of his recent fights.

I wasn't laughing at you, and I agree with what you've just posted, I was laughing at the, and I'm paraphrasing, "unprecedented run of four tough fights", Cotto was the only real tough fight in the four.

believe the story. no wounder canelo-ggg isnt happening, canelo knows exactly what he is in for.

No indeed he won't. It will be a war. I can't see how it can fail to be.

Badhusker wrote:

dberry wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
Give the kid some credit dude. Canelo is the only boxer consistently signing on for tough fights. Lara, Kirkland, Cotto and Khan...tell me someone who has a tougher 4 fight stretch than that. Canelo was freaking 22 years old when he fought Floyd. Floyd signed that fight for a reason, he wanted to clip him while he was green. You obviously dislike the kid so probably not worth arguing with you but the kid's great for the game. Can't see how you had a problem with a boxer like that.

LOL, you think Khan was winning the fight and if you were him because you're so smart, you would have been smart enough to avoid Canelo's bombs for another 6 rounds? Khan didn't even make it through half the fight and you want to talk about how he was winning the fight? You can't come in last in a marathon and say you should have won just because you lead for the first 100 feet of the race.

Khan had a great first and second round but it was evident after that he'd never be able to box like that for 12 rounds. Canelo was winning the fight and going to win that fight no matter what. Delusional is what you are

Lara, Kirkland and Khan

If you remember, it was like pulling teeth to get Canelo to fight lara and even Trout, and we saw why. Anguelo and Kirkland, although sounded good on paper, had to cut from at or near 200 to make weight, and GB knew it. Cotto was a good fight, but we all know Cotto is past his best. Still, credit to Canelo for that win.
He barely beat Trout, and in my eyes did not beat Lara. Floyd, not a big welter, absolutely schooled Canelo, who weighed in one pound lighter than his previous fight (153) so you can't make a big issue on the weight. Now he cherry picks Khan, and says it isn't for the money? Khan isn't even a top 5 welter. We all knew the end result. Why not fight someone like Andrade instead? Golden Boy has been carefully matching Canelo, but casual fans don't notice. Its hilarious to me that both Canelo and Khan think their fight boosted their status. Again, casual fans are easily fooled. Canelo fought the guy that Floyd and Pac were "afraid" to fight. Give me a break.
Will Canelo take the GGG fight at 160? I think he will because much like the Trout and Lara fights, he will to avoid public embarrassment. The problem for him is that not only is GGG a better boxer, he is also a better puncher than Canelo.

So yeah, I am hard on Canelo, but am also honest and imo accurate in my assessment of his recent fights.

Too hard on him IMO. No matter what the circumstances turned out to be after the fights were won, Canelo should still get credit for getting in the ring with them. Even though I had Canelo losing as well, he still fought Lara when no one else would. Did Oscar know that Wolfe would not be in Kirkland's corner? Who cares. Kirkland, either way, it's a dangerous man and a tough night. Anguelo was like shooting fish in a bucket but still a guy that gave Lara all he could handle. Then, whatever excuse you want to make about Khan and Cotto back to back wins is tough to take seriously. Those are still two top names to put on your hit list.

Everything that i've read shows that Oscar is trying to reign Canelo in but he can't. Canelo wants these tough fights and doesn't seem to care about losing. That's why I like the kid. I don't think Canelo is P4P elite or anything but i just like what he's been doing lately while everyone is taking punk fights. My boy GGG lights him up though but i still have to give him credit.

caldo2025 wrote:

Badhusker wrote:

dberry wrote: Lara, Kirkland and Khan

If you remember, it was like pulling teeth to get Canelo to fight lara and even Trout, and we saw why. Anguelo and Kirkland, although sounded good on paper, had to cut from at or near 200 to make weight, and GB knew it. Cotto was a good fight, but we all know Cotto is past his best. Still, credit to Canelo for that win.
He barely beat Trout, and in my eyes did not beat Lara. Floyd, not a big welter, absolutely schooled Canelo, who weighed in one pound lighter than his previous fight (153) so you can't make a big issue on the weight. Now he cherry picks Khan, and says it isn't for the money? Khan isn't even a top 5 welter. We all knew the end result. Why not fight someone like Andrade instead? Golden Boy has been carefully matching Canelo, but casual fans don't notice. Its hilarious to me that both Canelo and Khan think their fight boosted their status. Again, casual fans are easily fooled. Canelo fought the guy that Floyd and Pac were "afraid" to fight. Give me a break.
Will Canelo take the GGG fight at 160? I think he will because much like the Trout and Lara fights, he will to avoid public embarrassment. The problem for him is that not only is GGG a better boxer, he is also a better puncher than Canelo.

So yeah, I am hard on Canelo, but am also honest and imo accurate in my assessment of his recent fights.

Too hard on him IMO. No matter what the circumstances turned out to be after the fights were won, Canelo should still get credit for getting in the ring with them. Even though I had Canelo losing as well, he still fought Lara when no one else would. Did Oscar know that Wolfe would not be in Kirkland's corner? Who cares. Kirkland, either way, it's a dangerous man and a tough night. Anguelo was like shooting fish in a bucket but still a guy that gave Lara all he could handle. Then, whatever excuse you want to make about Khan and Cotto back to back wins is tough to take seriously. Those are still two top names to put on your hit list.

Everything that i've read shows that Oscar is trying to reign Canelo in but he can't. Canelo wants these tough fights and doesn't seem to care about losing. That's why I like the kid. I don't think Canelo is P4P elite or anything but i just like what he's been doing lately while everyone is taking punk fights. My boy GGG lights him up though but i still have to give him credit.

I do agree with you on that point, he does have to get kudos for stepping in the ring with everyone that he has (perhaps excepting Khan).