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AJ, 3rth round

tobyh5 wrote:Massive fan of Haye. Boxed for the Fitzroy Lodge myself when he was there. Got a selfie with him at the NEC last Saturday and exchanged a few words.

BUT AJ takes him. David is fighting utter jokes and there is a reason he is being so ultra selective.

Oh and I am not even on the AJ bandwagon

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Stuarty30 wrote:Haye is all wrong for AJ. Haye wins by KO inside 4. Joshua wouldn't have came up against anything like Haye even in the ams or sparring. If I was Hearn I would stay well clear of Haye.

I agree. In fact, Hearn has hinted many times that he thinks Haye would be the hardest possible fight for Joshua. I genuinely believe he'd put AJ in with Fury immediately, but he won't want him anywhere near Haye at this stage.

Boxerbeetle wrote:
In fact, Hearn has hinted many times that he thinks Haye would be the hardest possible fight for Joshua.

Hearn the promoter made comments that could one day help sell the fight. Shocker!

lol, you know what i mean though mate, we all say that Hearn talks utter shite most of the time so why start quoting any of the crap that comes out of his mouth. (not to say I disagree with your assessment btw)

Haye is one of the toughest opponents out there for Joshua at the moment (along with Ortiz and Klitschko).

Haye is getting on and I think Hearn will want to wait another 12 months hoping Haye ages more but he still comes from strange angles and does not fight like most heavyweights at the top end. He is a ducker and a diver and Joshua could struggle to pin him down as easy.

By the time the fight is made (if it ever is), then Haye may be starting to slow, but at the moment, I would say Haye.

Then again, I want to see Haye fight a genuine threat after the Briggs fight - a Whyte, a Pulev or a Parker.

lckov wrote:Haye is one of the toughest opponents out there for Joshua at the moment (along with Ortiz and Klitschko).

Haye is getting on and I think Hearn will want to wait another 12 months hoping Haye ages more but he still comes from strange angles and does not fight like most heavyweights at the top end. He is a ducker and a diver and Joshua could struggle to pin him down as easy.

By the time the fight is made (if it ever is), then Haye may be starting to slow, but at the moment, I would say Haye.

Then again, I want to see Haye fight a genuine threat after the Briggs fight - a Whyte, a Pulev or a Parker.

Not sure what Haye gains from facing a tough opponent.
I would like to see it and so would you but if you were Hayes management why would you risk it?
Hayes money fight is AJ. The fight isnt getting any smaller.
He will just keep knocking over slightly more well known guys, keep his name out there and wait for the call. It is definitely coming...

Haye. Brilliant fighter. Crappy promoter.

lckov wrote:
Then again, I want to see Haye fight a genuine threat after the Briggs fight - a Whyte, a Pulev or a Parker.

I'm not sure why some have Whyte as some big threat/contender.
Was it that he once won the vacant WBC International Silver heavyweight title?
He's done nothing other than wobbled Joshua.
Joshua, a guy who has shown great potential but has, as yet, proven nothing other than winning a particularly weak world title shot and his greatest win to date was.......Knocking Dillian TFO

Surprised anybody is going for Haye it's obvious he is shot, still got the punch but that won't be enough for the likes of a young, big, AJ. Still a big fight though.

davie wrote:

lckov wrote:
Then again, I want to see Haye fight a genuine threat after the Briggs fight - a Whyte, a Pulev or a Parker.

I'm not sure why some have Whyte as some big threat/contender.
Was it that he once won the vacant WBC International Silver heavyweight title?
He's done nothing other than wobbled Joshua.
Joshua, a guy who has shown great potential but has, as yet, proven nothing other than winning a particularly weak world title shot and his greatest win to date was.......Knocking Dillian TFO

Whyte is just a well known measuring stick who could have a similar career to Chisora if he gets into shape. Bettering the result vs Whyte would build a fight with Joshua.

Anyway, Haye gives all the clues away himself. He never mentions Fury as he knows he would have trouble with a big mobile heavy, seeing as though he struggled with the big stiff one. He is also 'chasing' Joshua, as he knows that's winnable.

There are a lot of good fights at HW to be made, just not any decent 'prep' fights. I'd love a HW Super 6. Imagine the PPV money £$£$£$£$

Wilder
Fury
Haye
Ortiz
Parker
Joshua
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Povetkin
Pulev
Klitchko

Sklar wrote:Haye. Brilliant fighter. Crappy promoter.

I don't think he is a brilliant fighter anymore . Was, but isn't now .

Rexob wrote:Surprised anybody is going for Haye it's obvious he is shot, still got the punch but that won't be enough for the likes of a young, big, AJ. Still a big fight though.

It's not obvious to me at all.

He's fought bums since he's comeback but we won't know whether he is "shot" or not until he starts competing against high level opponents.

It's too early to say yet.

The old pre retirement Haye ,, smashes AJ ,, the present Haye gets smashed ,,, could Haye change it round , probably with hard work and a few hard warmups ... Will he PROBABLY NOT

Would Haye vs AJ be on Dave? That's the question.

Ian1973 wrote:Haye. Too quick, athletic and powerful for Joshua. Haye WILL land properly on Joshua and he has the power to get the KO.

Joshua too slow and one dimensional for Haye.

This. The thread is farked as this fella has nailed it.

Haye has his chance, but for me as soon as he feels a clump on the napper from AJ, even a stiff jab, he'll resort to dancing around the ring and try and nick a points decision. That's if he can even do 12 rounds a decent pace anymore.

I think David Haye's career as a heavyweight has been built up to be something it is not. The only heavy he has stepped in the ring with worth mentioning is Klitchko, and Haye didn't even get close to him. David Haye was a fantastic cruiserweight, but since being a heavy, he has ducked real opposition, despite having two opportunities to fight Fury.

Haye inherently struggles against tall opposition, which he gives 3 inches away to Joshua. Throw into the fact that the power that Joshua possesses would rock Haye to his boots. It's easy stalking someone in the ring when you know they're not going to throw anything back. Valuev (his highest ranking win) didn't get within a few metres of him, Chisora (also not a big puncher - more of a slugger) is shorter than Haye!

I think this is Joshua's hardest fight out there, but I also think it's Haye's hardest fight also.

Rob3_142 wrote:I think David Haye's career as a heavyweight has been built up to be something it is not. The only heavy he has stepped in the ring with worth mentioning is Klitchko, and Haye didn't even get close to him. David Haye was a fantastic cruiserweight, but since being a heavy, he has ducked real opposition, despite having two opportunities to fight Fury.

Haye inherently struggles against tall opposition, which he gives 3 inches away to Joshua. Throw into the fact that the power that Joshua possesses would rock Haye to his boots. It's easy stalking someone in the ring when you know they're not going to throw anything back. Valuev (his highest ranking win) didn't get within a few metres of him, Chisora (also not a big puncher - more of a slugger) is shorter than Haye!

I think this is Joshua's hardest fight out there, but I also think it's Haye's hardest fight also.

I agree here, he's always been incredibly wary when facing someone taller with a bigger reach. Add in Joshua's power, and I think we're set for Haye fannying round the ring trying to avoid getting clumped.

does AJs performance against Breazeale tonight change anybodys thoughts on the outcome of a potential fight with Haye?

ILikeBeer wrote:Would Haye vs AJ be on Dave? That's the question.

It'll be both on Sky PPV and Dave.

wesshaw1985 wrote:does AJs performance against Breazeale tonight change anybodys thoughts on the outcome of a potential fight with Haye?

Plus Whyte's performance.

Anthony Joshua points.

BitPlayer wrote:

ILikeBeer wrote:Would Haye vs AJ be on Dave? That's the question.

It'll be both on Sky PPV and Dave.

As long as I get the chance to pay for it, that's the main thing.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:I think David Haye's career as a heavyweight has been built up to be something it is not. The only heavy he has stepped in the ring with worth mentioning is Klitchko, and Haye didn't even get close to him. David Haye was a fantastic cruiserweight, but since being a heavy, he has ducked real opposition, despite having two opportunities to fight Fury.

Haye inherently struggles against tall opposition, which he gives 3 inches away to Joshua. Throw into the fact that the power that Joshua possesses would rock Haye to his boots. It's easy stalking someone in the ring when you know they're not going to throw anything back. Valuev (his highest ranking win) didn't get within a few metres of him, Chisora (also not a big puncher - more of a slugger) is shorter than Haye!

I think this is Joshua's hardest fight out there, but I also think it's Haye's hardest fight also.

I agree here, he's always been incredibly wary when facing someone taller with a bigger reach. Add in Joshua's power, and I think we're set for Haye fannying round the ring trying to avoid getting clumped.

yes.

Rob3_142 wrote:I think David Haye's career as a heavyweight has been built up to be something it is not. The only heavy he has stepped in the ring with worth mentioning is Klitchko, and Haye didn't even get close to him. David Haye was a fantastic cruiserweight, but since being a heavy, he has ducked real opposition, despite having two opportunities to fight Fury.

Haye inherently struggles against tall opposition, which he gives 3 inches away to Joshua. Throw into the fact that the power that Joshua possesses would rock Haye to his boots. It's easy stalking someone in the ring when you know they're not going to throw anything back. Valuev (his highest ranking win) didn't get within a few metres of him, Chisora (also not a big puncher - more of a slugger) is shorter than Haye!

I think this is Joshua's hardest fight out there, but I also think it's Haye's hardest fight also.

Did he struggle with Valuev?

I mean, I know it was boring-ass fight, but he boxed the fight he needed to to win against an opponent who dwarved him.