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Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 24 May 2016, 10:27
by bigjack
bripez wrote:McGuigan was my first boxing hero, however his actions in recent years have really put me off him.
I don't know the details of this case, but Barry does come across as though he could be a personal, spiteful and vindictive pudendum.
Same here,worshipped him during his world title run,can't stand the sight of him now.
Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 24 May 2016, 10:45
by bripez
bigjack wrote:bripez wrote:McGuigan was my first boxing hero, however his actions in recent years have really put me off him.
I don't know the details of this case, but Barry does come across as though he could be a personal, spiteful and vindictive pudendum.
Same here,worshipped him during his world title run,can't stand the sight of him now.
Yeah I fell for all that "thank you Mr Eastwood" stuff.
As soon as he got a world title and a sniff of the bigger purses it was a case of "fornicate off Barney, our kid can be my manager"
Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 25 May 2016, 14:52
by handsofstone
Thats Cacace and McGuigan parted ways,i wonder if Wazza will sign him up??
Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 25 May 2016, 19:52
by watsupdoc87
yeah confirmed anto has parteed ways. i could see him going with either dumlop or more likely warren or hearn. he has talent and is big at his weight. future world title contender i believe. good luck to him

Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 26 May 2016, 03:52
by handsofstone
Conrad Cummings tweeted he's the most talented fighter he's ever worked with,thats pretty good going
Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 26 May 2016, 04:38
by David McAllister
watsupdoc87 wrote:yeah confirmed anto has parteed ways. i could see him going with either dumlop or more likely warren or hearn. he has talent and is big at his weight. future world title contender i believe. good luck to him

Great to hear this, hopefully Anthony Cacace can get back into the ring asap and that he hasn't been wasting his time in limbo by not staying in the gym.
Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 26 May 2016, 05:33
by JamieM
Imo be won't be at super feather. Time will tell but I think and heard he struggled making weight and that's with Shane so think we may well see him at lightweight. Be a good fight for an Irish title maybe him v Tennyson who I heard is moving up or James fryers .
Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 26 May 2016, 05:45
by David McAllister
JamieM wrote:Imo be won't be at super feather. Time will tell but I think and heard he struggled making weight and that's with Shane so think we may well see him at lightweight. Be a good fight for an Irish title maybe him v Tennyson who I heard is moving up or James fryers .
Do you think Cacace will be as effective moving up in weight? Lightweights will be similar sized to him and may well come in heavier on the night meaning he could well lose quite a bit of the advantages he holds at Super Feather.
Would Tennyson be moving up 2 weight divisions to Lightweight for that fight to happen?
Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 26 May 2016, 05:59
by JamieM
I meant that fight if he did do super feather. Imo on his fight with Ronnie and this is in no way an excuse, the referee allowing him to paw out his jab and use it as a range finder to smash in backhands won that fight. The referee warned him how many times and still did not stop it. I believe he would be even better at lightweight though and would possibly carry power that they all speak of as Ronnie still maintains he's sparred with a lot heavier hitters including Tennyson. He's a neat boxer and I believe he would beat cardle. What you make of him?
Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 26 May 2016, 06:09
by David McAllister
JamieM wrote:I meant that fight if he did do super feather. Imo on his fight with Ronnie and this is in no way an excuse, the referee allowing him to paw out his jab and use it as a range finder to smash in backhands won that fight. The referee warned him how many times and still did not stop it. I believe he would be even better at lightweight though and would possibly carry power that they all speak of as Ronnie still maintains he's sparred with a lot heavier hitters including Tennyson. He's a neat boxer and I believe he would beat cardle. What you make of him?
I was impressed by him but thought he was open at the same time, Ronnie had patches in the fight where he caught him pretty easily and I think if Ronnie had went to the body earlier he could have slowed him down in the later rounds but I think you could see the difference in the 2 in terms of boxing experience i.e. Cacace had a much longer amateur career and picked up a wee bit more learning. I do think that at Lightweight he would lose some of the tools that make him successful at Super Feather but I also agree that he could beat Scott Cardle who i think is very lucky to still be British champion.
It would be sad if he didn't kick on from where he was at last year winning the Celtic title and imo he should be in the mix for an eliminator for the British title at Super Feather once he sorts out a new manager/promoterIf he moves up then masher Dodd would be a good measuring stick to see where he would sit at domestic level.
Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 26 May 2016, 07:05
by Coco
Did he have to buy McGuigan out in the end? Or did he sit out his contract?
Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 26 May 2016, 07:26
by bripez
Coco wrote:Did he have to buy McGuigan out in the end? Or did he sit out his contract?
How does it work for a boxer to buy out their contract - is there a set amount (based on length of contract to go) or is it set by a Board tribunal or something?
Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 26 May 2016, 14:14
by watsupdoc87
i think it was by mutual consent,

Re: Barry McGuigan and Anto Cacace
Posted: 27 May 2016, 14:15
by expe
bripez wrote:Coco wrote:Did he have to buy McGuigan out in the end? Or did he sit out his contract?
How does it work for a boxer to buy out their contract - is there a set amount (based on length of contract to go) or is it set by a Board tribunal or something?
Managerial contract would be through the board unless they signed something outside of that, promotional like this will be down to what's in the contract, either by agreement or by going through the courts and letting the judge decide.