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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 11 Jun 2016, 18:01
by funso banjo baby
tons of excitement
he only had a bauble title though
I guess his defining fight was Haye
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 11 Jun 2016, 18:42
by Boxerbeetle
funso banjo baby wrote:tons of excitement
he only had a bauble title though
I guess his defining fight was Haye
His defining fight was RJJ. When you beat a legend, you become a legend

Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 11 Jun 2016, 20:29
by dookus
Boxerbeetle wrote:funso banjo baby wrote:tons of excitement
he only had a bauble title though
I guess his defining fight was Haye
His defining fight was RJJ. When you beat a legend, you become a legend

Like the GREEN MACHINE!
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 00:12
by Wales
His ability to take a shot did diminish (even further) toward the end. He was clearly shook by a couple jabs on Friday. Do you think that's down to age, or do brutal KOs, and Enzos had some horrible ones, take a little bit more from you each time?
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 04:48
by funso banjo baby
Boxerbeetle wrote:funso banjo baby wrote:tons of excitement
he only had a bauble title though
I guess his defining fight was Haye
His defining fight was RJJ. When you beat a legend, you become a legend

that rationale only works for the sky sport ppv generation. its more WWE than boxing.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 04:56
by Stuarty
He has had a smashing career. Not got a chin but to be fair he always seems to get caught with highlight reel punches! Smashing guy and was a cracking fighter. I thought his fight against Braithwaite was a real class showing. I'm glad he's now decided to pack it in.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 05:41
by Noxy
I always liked Enzo. He was in some cracking fights and won a fair few of them. Best of luck to him. I understand why the first poster said - where did it all go wrong - but I don't agree with it. I think he had a good career
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 05:47
by Dixonian
Wales wrote:His ability to take a shot did diminish (even further) toward the end. He was clearly shook by a couple jabs on Friday. Do you think that's down to age, or do brutal KOs, and Enzos had some horrible ones, take a little bit more from you each time?
One bad knockout can make you more susceptible to another, as I understand it.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 10:27
by handsofstone
Stuarty30 wrote:He has had a smashing career. Not got a chin but to be fair he always seems to get caught with highlight reel punches! Smashing guy and was a cracking fighter. I thought his fight against Braithwaite was a real class showing. I'm glad he's now decided to pack it in.
I agree he does tend to get caught with sledgehammering punches,its not as if he was getting KO'd by shots like the right hand that Thompson done Price with in their 1st fight,they look shots that would KO a horse and despite being KO'd many times he still doesnt know how to react when getting wobbled,always tries to trade instead of tying up or back peddling and always jumps back up instead of taking a mandatory 8 count
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 11:17
by jamesmcdonnell
handsofstone wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:He has had a smashing career. Not got a chin but to be fair he always seems to get caught with highlight reel punches! Smashing guy and was a cracking fighter. I thought his fight against Braithwaite was a real class showing. I'm glad he's now decided to pack it in.
I agree he does tend to get caught with sledgehammering punches,its not as if he was getting KO'd by shots like the right hand that Thompson done Price with in their 1st fight,they look shots that would KO a horse and despite being KO'd many times he still doesnt know how to react when getting wobbled,always tries to trade instead of tying up or back peddling and always jumps back up instead of taking a mandatory 8 count
He's always carried his head very high which is why he gets caught with such huge shots.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 11:19
by Stuarty
jamesmcdonnell wrote:handsofstone wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:He has had a smashing career. Not got a chin but to be fair he always seems to get caught with highlight reel punches! Smashing guy and was a cracking fighter. I thought his fight against Braithwaite was a real class showing. I'm glad he's now decided to pack it in.
I agree he does tend to get caught with sledgehammering punches,its not as if he was getting KO'd by shots like the right hand that Thompson done Price with in their 1st fight,they look shots that would KO a horse and despite being KO'd many times he still doesnt know how to react when getting wobbled,always tries to trade instead of tying up or back peddling and always jumps back up instead of taking a mandatory 8 count
He's always carried his head very high which is why he gets caught with such huge shots.
Yeah true.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 11:21
by jamesmcdonnell
Stuarty30 wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:handsofstone wrote:
I agree he does tend to get caught with sledgehammering punches,its not as if he was getting KO'd by shots like the right hand that Thompson done Price with in their 1st fight,they look shots that would KO a horse and despite being KO'd many times he still doesnt know how to react when getting wobbled,always tries to trade instead of tying up or back peddling and always jumps back up instead of taking a mandatory 8 count
He's always carried his head very high which is why he gets caught with such huge shots.
Yeah true.
Same with Khan, its the 'Kid carrying his toffee apple back from the fairground" defence.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 11:24
by Stuarty
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:
He's always carried his head very high which is why he gets caught with such huge shots.
Yeah true.
Same with Khan, its the 'Kid carrying his toffee apple back from the fairground" defence.
At least Enzo is a decent guy. Khan is a prize wank spanner
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 11:57
by jamesmcdonnell
Stuarty30 wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:
Yeah true.
Same with Khan, its the 'Kid carrying his toffee apple back from the fairground" defence.
At least Enzo is a decent guy. Khan is a prize wank spanner
To be fair, I've no idea what Khan is like in real life, but certainly he comes across as a bit of a tool.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 11:59
by keithmoonhangover
jamesmcdonnell wrote:To be fair, I've no idea what Khan is like in real life, but certainly he comes across as a bit of a tool.
From what I hear, he's a very nice chap.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 12:12
by mickey1975
Khan does more for charity, here and in Pakistan, than any boxer.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 12:45
by jamesmcdonnell
keithmoonhangover wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:To be fair, I've no idea what Khan is like in real life, but certainly he comes across as a bit of a tool.
From what I hear, he's a very nice chap.
That's what I'm trying to say, his public persona is kind of annoying, however, that doesn't mean away from the cameras that he isn't a good bloke.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 12:52
by handsofstone
I like Khan but anyone who refers to themselves as a 3rd person is a bit of a knob,same goes for Hatton
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 12:55
by bripez
mickey1975 wrote:Khan does more for charity, here and in Pakistan, than any boxer.
Apart from being a great way to generate free publicity (and therefore money) as well as reducing tax liabilities these charities are not all what they seem.
I was reading last week about the Mo Farah foundation which had been wound up before it had actually distributed any money to any charitable causes - I forget the exact figures but it was something like the charity raised £1m but they spent over £900k on "fundraising" costs - no doubt paying friends and family members for their work.
I am not saying that Khan does the same, however these things aren't as simple as "he does a lot for charity".
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 13:12
by jamesmcdonnell
bripez wrote:mickey1975 wrote:Khan does more for charity, here and in Pakistan, than any boxer.
Apart from being a great way to generate free publicity (and therefore money) as well as reducing tax liabilities these charities are not all what they seem.
I was reading last week about the Mo Farah foundation which had been wound up before it had actually distributed any money to any charitable causes - I forget the exact figures but it was something like the charity raised £1m but they spent over £900k on "fundraising" costs - no doubt paying friends and family members for their work.
I am not saying that Khan does the same, however these things aren't as simple as "he does a lot for charity".
Charities are usually very inefficient - though only having 10% left after fundraising activities is particularly bad.
Even a monster like Oxfam manages 25%, or at least did last time I looked.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 13:18
by keithmoonhangover
handsofstone wrote:I like Khan but anyone who refers to themselves as a 3rd person is a bit of a knob,same goes for Hatton
keithmoonhangover disagrees.
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 13:24
by handsofstone
keithmoonhangover wrote:handsofstone wrote:I like Khan but anyone who refers to themselves as a 3rd person is a bit of a knob,same goes for Hatton
keithmoonhangover disagrees.
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Knob

Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 13:29
by keithmoonhangover
handsofstone wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:handsofstone wrote:I like Khan but anyone who refers to themselves as a 3rd person is a bit of a knob,same goes for Hatton
keithmoonhangover disagrees.
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Knob

keithmoonhangover agrees.

Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 13:38
by handsofstone
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Posted: 12 Jun 2016, 13:44
by bripez
jamesmcdonnell wrote:bripez wrote:mickey1975 wrote:Khan does more for charity, here and in Pakistan, than any boxer.
Apart from being a great way to generate free publicity (and therefore money) as well as reducing tax liabilities these charities are not all what they seem.
I was reading last week about the Mo Farah foundation which had been wound up before it had actually distributed any money to any charitable causes - I forget the exact figures but it was something like the charity raised £1m but they spent over £900k on "fundraising" costs - no doubt paying friends and family members for their work.
I am not saying that Khan does the same, however these things aren't as simple as "he does a lot for charity".
Charities are usually very inefficient - though only having 10% left after fundraising activities is particularly bad.
Even a monster like Oxfam manages 25%, or at least did last time I looked.
Just double checked and my figures were way out - the charity had an income of £250k and costs of £180k