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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:You have Frampton more competitive in this one than I do Saad.

As per the fairly standard opinion it seems, I see LSC's size and output giving Frampton big problems.

I think Frampton has big problems if he cant hurt him, otherwise I see a cotto-Marg 1 type fight with Carl giving ground and landing cleanly bit wearing down

Though I said when it was made, framptons camp were very definite this was the one they wanted, so i have to assume they are confident, which gives me pause on my opinion a little bit.

Still, I definitely think Frampton has to get serious respect for his punching from LSC, and as he's never hit a featherweight I have to say that one I will believe it when I see it.

Sorry? I was questioning Frampton being better than Mares. In this fight Carl will have to be much more aggressive than he was against Quigg. Basically, he has to lure LSC into LSC's fight. That rarely works out well.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Frampton hasn't either, against lesser opposition.

That's true. I'm picking Santa Cruz to win the fight though so....I mean it's not like I'm favoring Frampton in this fight.

I didn't say you were and I wouldn't be shocked if Frampton won. Just surprised you rate him that highly.

diddy wrote:IMO Leo is just too damn big for Frampton. LSC really should be fighting in the division above. Dude is almost 5'11.

Crease wrote:I'm saying Carl Frampton. It's going to be a difficult fight for both men, but I think Carl has it.

Stuarty30 wrote:I hope you're right mate Bit nervy already! You heard anything about what UK channel will be showing it?

Crease wrote:I'm saying Carl Frampton. It's going to be a difficult fight for both men, but I think Carl has it.

Crease wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:I hope you're right mate Bit nervy already! You heard anything about what UK channel will be showing it?

I think he will do it alright. In my eyes Santa Cruz hasn't looked the same man since moving up to Featherweight.

As for the coverage, i haven't heard a thing about it mate, it's a bit of an unusual one. I've been watching Buncie's boxing hour on box.....nation.....freeview & there's been no mention of it.

Nor have Sky brought it up & i doubt they'll be going for it because Eddie Hearn was pushing hard for the rematch with Quigg.

Maybe we'll get lucky & ITV, Channel 5, Dave or Spike might zpend a few quid to pick it up. At least it will be free then

Stuarty30 wrote:Barry must still be trying to whore it out to the highest bidder atm.

gilgamesh wrote:

Crease wrote:I'm saying Carl Frampton. It's going to be a difficult fight for both men, but I think Carl has it.

I'd be happy to be wrong on my prediction, and see Frampton win. I like him better than Santa Cruz.

Stuarty30 wrote:

Crease wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:I hope you're right mate Bit nervy already! You heard anything about what UK channel will be showing it?

I think he will do it alright. In my eyes Santa Cruz hasn't looked the same man since moving up to Featherweight.

As for the coverage, i haven't heard a thing about it mate, it's a bit of an unusual one. I've been watching Buncie's boxing hour on box.....nation.....freeview & there's been no mention of it.

Nor have Sky brought it up & i doubt they'll be going for it because Eddie Hearn was pushing hard for the rematch with Quigg.

Maybe we'll get lucky & ITV, Channel 5, Dave or Spike might zpend a few quid to pick it up. At least it will be free then

Frampton has the power to hurt LSC and if he steams in the way he did against Mares then he'll be playing into Carl's hands. Size and probably strength advantages lie with LSC whereas Frampton is a better boxer. I hope Carl can hurt him early and make him think more because he could certainly overwhelm Carl with the pace he likes to work at. I'll be staying up for this one. Wouldn't be able to sleep anyway!

I've a sneaky feeling it might end up on that Premier Sports as a PPV. Barry must still be trying to whore it out to the highest bidder atm.

Crease wrote:I'm saying Carl Frampton. It's going to be a difficult fight for both men, but I think Carl has it.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

Crease wrote: I think he will do it alright. In my eyes Santa Cruz hasn't looked the same man since moving up to Featherweight.

As for the coverage, i haven't heard a thing about it mate, it's a bit of an unusual one. I've been watching Buncie's boxing hour on box.....nation.....freeview & there's been no mention of it.

Nor have Sky brought it up & i doubt they'll be going for it because Eddie Hearn was pushing hard for the rematch with Quigg.

Maybe we'll get lucky & ITV, Channel 5, Dave or Spike might zpend a few quid to pick it up. At least it will be free then

Frampton has the power to hurt LSC and if he steams in the way he did against Mares then he'll be playing into Carl's hands. Size and probably strength advantages lie with LSC whereas Frampton is a better boxer. I hope Carl can hurt him early and make him think more because he could certainly overwhelm Carl with the pace he likes to work at. I'll be staying up for this one. Wouldn't be able to sleep anyway!

I've a sneaky feeling it might end up on that Premier Sports as a PPV. Barry must still be trying to whore it out to the highest bidder atm.

Huh? He didn't steam in against mares. Most disciplined fight he's ever fought. I'll be cheering for Carl, but I don't see it. Quigg's late pressure bothered him and LSC can do that, and more, all night.

Stuarty30 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
Frampton has the power to hurt LSC and if he steams in the way he did against Mares then he'll be playing into Carl's hands. Size and probably strength advantages lie with LSC whereas Frampton is a better boxer. I hope Carl can hurt him early and make him think more because he could certainly overwhelm Carl with the pace he likes to work at. I'll be staying up for this one. Wouldn't be able to sleep anyway!

I've a sneaky feeling it might end up on that Premier Sports as a PPV. Barry must still be trying to whore it out to the highest bidder atm.

Huh? He didn't steam in against mares. Most disciplined fight he's ever fought. I'll be cheering for Carl, but I don't see it. Quigg's late pressure bothered him and LSC can do that, and more, all night.

He flew in at Mares as open as you like. He fought at a ferocious pace but he got caught a lot and was there to be hit. Point I was making is Frampton is an excellent counter puncher and unless LSC is a bit more defensive minded then he'll get caught. Wether it'll be enough to deter him remains to be seen.

You're right though Quiggs pressure did have him looking uncomfortable and it was the same in a few spells against Gonzalez although he adapted well eventually. Carl hasn't performed to anywhere near the level he can in his last two and he's going to need a near flawless performance to get a decision against LSC. Can't wait!

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Huh? He didn't steam in against mares. Most disciplined fight he's ever fought. I'll be cheering for Carl, but I don't see it. Quigg's late pressure bothered him and LSC can do that, and more, all night.

He flew in at Mares as open as you like. He fought at a ferocious pace but he got caught a lot and was there to be hit. Point I was making is Frampton is an excellent counter puncher and unless LSC is a bit more defensive minded then he'll get caught. Wether it'll be enough to deter him remains to be seen.

You're right though Quiggs pressure did have him looking uncomfortable and it was the same in a few spells against Gonzalez although he adapted well eventually. Carl hasn't performed to anywhere near the level he can in his last two and he's going to need a near flawless performance to get a decision against LSC. Can't wait!

Was that the first time you've seen him fight?