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Mostel wrote:GGG should ask to fight this clown in Wembley so he can murder Jr. in front of 100,000+

Wembley doesn't hold 100,000 +
It also wouldn't draw that many people, not even close.

apollo creed wrote:

crow wrote:Except the Eubanks have backed themselves into a corner just like Canelo did.

The money will be there for both fighters, so they will end up with an egg on their faces if they don't sign.

All are wainting for GGG to age overnight and look very weak. GGG should somehow bait these cowards in his next fight by taking a step back, take some punches, look hurt and exhausted.

You know, I think he has tried this before. Not the looking hurt and exhausted, but the taking punches and easing up. He isn't going to be properly challenged until he moves up in weight.

apollo creed wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Eubank has some good skills. I like watching him fight more than any other UK fighter.

I don't think he has the physical gifts to compete with GGG.

Jacobs, Saunders, Lemieux and Lee would've been more credible opponents for CEJ before he was starting to yap about a fight with GGG.

Lee is coming off 2 losses. I don't know how he got a draw against Quillin.

Maybe Jacobs and Saunders need to yap about a fight with GGG.
Haymon has been talking so much shit about working with other companies.
GGG VS Jacobs would be a perfect start.

Makes me wonder. PBC has been able to make deals with EVERY network except HBO ...
so everyone else is wrong except HBO?

or

What's wrong with HBO?

Loefler said that if the fight is not signed soon, they will start their own promotion in the U.S. for September 10th. Soon after that, news about Ramirez pulling out of his defense due to a hand injury comes out. Maybe we will see GGG vs Zurdo?

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Mostel wrote:GGG should ask to fight this clown in Wembley so he can murder Jr. in front of 100,000+

Wembley doesn't hold 100,000 +
It also wouldn't draw that many people, not even close.

would be around 80,000 ask carl . I think it would shift 80,000 with a good undercard

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Mostel wrote:GGG should ask to fight this clown in Wembley so he can murder Jr. in front of 100,000+

Wembley doesn't hold 100,000 +
It also wouldn't draw that many people, not even close.

would be around 80,000 ask carl . I think it would shift 80,000 with a good undercard

I think it would do very very well at wembley what better arena for Jnr to get mullered in

Oiky wrote:

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Wembley doesn't hold 100,000 +
It also wouldn't draw that many people, not even close.

would be around 80,000 ask carl . I think it would shift 80,000 with a good undercard

I think it would do very very well at wembley what better arena for Jnr to get mullered in

Hardly anyone in the UK knows who Jr is, let alone GGG, it's not a Wembley fight.

DannyMCR wrote:https://twitter.com/GGGBoxing/status/750710776164413440

lmap

golovkin should move on and up. this is getiing ridiciluos.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Oiky wrote:

afcmarshall wrote: would be around 80,000 ask carl . I think it would shift 80,000 with a good undercard

I think it would do very very well at wembley what better arena for Jnr to get mullered in

Hardly anyone in the UK knows who Jr is, let alone GGG, it's not a Wembley fight.

I think it would do very well. Jnr is well known imo his name alone is enough plus you then have the Blakwell fight that got spoken about and had alot of coverage hes been on a few of AJs undercards and its the casuals that follow him that would go to Wembley for a 'stacked' card. Hearn would roll out the usual Benn ect and then have either Degale or brook in a tittle fight on the bill as well. Plus I think GGG is one of the best know fighters in this country that a lot of people have never seen fight but like to call the best just because theyve heard people talk about him.

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Oiky wrote: I think it would do very very well at wembley what better arena for Jnr to get mullered in

Hardly anyone in the UK knows who Jr is, let alone GGG, it's not a Wembley fight.

I think it would do very well. Jnr is well known imo his name alone is enough plus you then have the Blakwell fight that got spoken about and had alot of coverage hes been on a few of AJs undercards and its the casuals that follow him that would go to Wembley for a 'stacked' card. Hearn would roll out the usual Benn ect and then have either Degale or brook in a tittle fight on the bill as well. Plus I think GGG is one of the best know fighters in this country that a lot of people have never seen fight but like to call the best just because theyve heard people talk about him.

No, he isn't. He is well known in boxing circles, but barely at all outside it. You're living in a bubble.

You think a promoter will risk hiring Wembley for an absolute fortune, risking their wedge, in the hope they get 90,000 people? Absolutely bonkers business plan.

The only reason Froch v Groves sold that many, was the controversy surrounding the 1st fight, and the fact it was a huge grudge match.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Hardly anyone in the UK knows who Jr is, let alone GGG, it's not a Wembley fight.

I think it would do very well. Jnr is well known imo his name alone is enough plus you then have the Blakwell fight that got spoken about and had alot of coverage hes been on a few of AJs undercards and its the casuals that follow him that would go to Wembley for a 'stacked' card. Hearn would roll out the usual Benn ect and then have either Degale or brook in a tittle fight on the bill as well. Plus I think GGG is one of the best know fighters in this country that a lot of people have never seen fight but like to call the best just because theyve heard people talk about him.

No, he isn't. He is well known in boxing circles, but barely at all outside it. You're living in a bubble.

You think a promoter will risk hiring Wembley for an absolute fortune, risking their wedge, in the hope they get 90,000 people? Absolutely bonkers business plan.

The only reason Froch v Groves sold that many, was the controversy surrounding the 1st fight, and the fact it was a huge grudge match.

So you think Froch and Groves were better know than the Eubank name before there second fight?

I dont think this will be at Wembley because of the time of year but I think Eddie would have 100% booked Wembley for it had it been the right time of year. People go to 'events' like this just to be there and to tell everyone on social media there going look at things like the cheltenham festival how many people would go to that and have know clue what horses are running or what races are on that day. And I honestly think people are underestimating how many people in this country would just pay to see GGG

Why are we even discussing Wembley. The venue has been picked already -- it is O2. The only question is if Eubanks and Hearn are serious.

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

afcmarshall wrote: I think it would do very well. Jnr is well known imo his name alone is enough plus you then have the Blakwell fight that got spoken about and had alot of coverage hes been on a few of AJs undercards and its the casuals that follow him that would go to Wembley for a 'stacked' card. Hearn would roll out the usual Benn ect and then have either Degale or brook in a tittle fight on the bill as well. Plus I think GGG is one of the best know fighters in this country that a lot of people have never seen fight but like to call the best just because theyve heard people talk about him.

No, he isn't. He is well known in boxing circles, but barely at all outside it. You're living in a bubble.

You think a promoter will risk hiring Wembley for an absolute fortune, risking their wedge, in the hope they get 90,000 people? Absolutely bonkers business plan.

The only reason Froch v Groves sold that many, was the controversy surrounding the 1st fight, and the fact it was a huge grudge match.

So you think Froch and Groves were better know than the Eubank name before there second fight?

I dont think this will be at Wembley because of the time of year but I think Eddie would have 100% booked Wembley for it had it been the right time of year. People go to 'events' like this just to be there and to tell everyone on social media there going look at things like the cheltenham festival how many people would go to that and have know clue what horses are running or what races are on that day. And I honestly think people are underestimating how many people in this country would just pay to see GGG

Of course Froch and groves were better known. There first fight got coverage in mainstream media on TV, in the newspapers. They spent months and months hyping the rematch and went on a massive publicity tour. Froch was already a big name because he was a multiple times world champ who built his profile over many years, and Groves helped massively sell the fight.

Most people in this country have zero idea who GGG is, you're living in a dream world. Comparing GGG with Cheltenham races is completely foolish. the Cheltenham races are a national institution, like the Grand National or the London Marathon, GGG is not anything like that. People aren't going to turn up watch someone fight as an event, that they have never heard of. At Aintree the horses are secondary to the event, not so in boxing.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: Most people in this country have zero idea who GGG is, you're living in a dream world. Comparing GGG with Cheltenham races is completely foolish. the Cheltenham races are a national institution, like the Grand National or the London Marathon, GGG is not anything like that. People aren't going to turn up watch someone fight as an event, that they have never heard of. At Aintree the horses are secondary to the event, not so in boxing.

I think you are mistaken. GGG stopped Macklin and Murray, was scheduled to fight Lee and has been mentioned a lot in BJS and Eubank related discussions. Any Brit remotely interested in boxing should know who he is.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
No, he isn't. He is well known in boxing circles, but barely at all outside it. You're living in a bubble.

You think a promoter will risk hiring Wembley for an absolute fortune, risking their wedge, in the hope they get 90,000 people? Absolutely bonkers business plan.

The only reason Froch v Groves sold that many, was the controversy surrounding the 1st fight, and the fact it was a huge grudge match.

So you think Froch and Groves were better know than the Eubank name before there second fight?

I dont think this will be at Wembley because of the time of year but I think Eddie would have 100% booked Wembley for it had it been the right time of year. People go to 'events' like this just to be there and to tell everyone on social media there going look at things like the cheltenham festival how many people would go to that and have know clue what horses are running or what races are on that day. And I honestly think people are underestimating how many people in this country would just pay to see GGG

Of course Froch and groves were better known. There first fight got coverage in mainstream media on TV, in the newspapers. They spent months and months hyping the rematch and went on a massive publicity tour. Froch was already a big name because he was a multiple times world champ who built his profile over many years, and Groves helped massively sell the fight.

Most people in this country have zero idea who GGG is, you're living in a dream world. Comparing GGG with Cheltenham races is completely foolish. the Cheltenham races are a national institution, like the Grand National or the London Marathon, GGG is not anything like that. People aren't going to turn up watch someone fight as an event, that they have never heard of. At Aintree the horses are secondary to the event, not so in boxing.

If you walk down a high street and asked people to name british boxers of past and present I think the name Eubank would come up a lot more than froch groves personally. You say they hyped up the last Wembley fight do you not think Eddie would do exactly the same with this? From the people I saw at Froch Groves most of them didnt have a clue what was going on who was fighting who same as a lot of people at AJ fights they are just there because it was a hyped up event. I wasnt comparing GGG on his own to Cheltenham I just think if this was hyped up like it would be with Eddie and sky it would sell out.

boxing_rocks wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote: Most people in this country have zero idea who GGG is, you're living in a dream world. Comparing GGG with Cheltenham races is completely foolish. the Cheltenham races are a national institution, like the Grand National or the London Marathon, GGG is not anything like that. People aren't going to turn up watch someone fight as an event, that they have never heard of. At Aintree the horses are secondary to the event, not so in boxing.

I think you are mistaken. GGG stopped Macklin and Murray, was scheduled to fight Lee and has been mentioned a lot in BJS and Eubank related discussions. Any Brit remotely interested in boxing should know who he is.

Well, I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Selling out Wembley requires two things, a fight of huge local significance, and a fighter from London, to sell it out.

What was the last fight to sell out the old Wembley stadium before Froch v Groves?

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

afcmarshall wrote: So you think Froch and Groves were better know than the Eubank name before there second fight?

I dont think this will be at Wembley because of the time of year but I think Eddie would have 100% booked Wembley for it had it been the right time of year. People go to 'events' like this just to be there and to tell everyone on social media there going look at things like the cheltenham festival how many people would go to that and have know clue what horses are running or what races are on that day. And I honestly think people are underestimating how many people in this country would just pay to see GGG

Of course Froch and groves were better known. There first fight got coverage in mainstream media on TV, in the newspapers. They spent months and months hyping the rematch and went on a massive publicity tour. Froch was already a big name because he was a multiple times world champ who built his profile over many years, and Groves helped massively sell the fight.

Most people in this country have zero idea who GGG is, you're living in a dream world. Comparing GGG with Cheltenham races is completely foolish. the Cheltenham races are a national institution, like the Grand National or the London Marathon, GGG is not anything like that. People aren't going to turn up watch someone fight as an event, that they have never heard of. At Aintree the horses are secondary to the event, not so in boxing.

If you walk down a high street and asked people to name british boxers of past and present I think the name Eubank would come up a lot more than froch groves personally. You say they hyped up the last Wembley fight do you not think Eddie would do exactly the same with this? From the people I saw at Froch Groves most of them didnt have a clue what was going on who was fighting who same as a lot of people at AJ fights they are just there because it was a hyped up event. I wasnt comparing GGG on his own to Cheltenham I just think if this was hyped up like it would be with Eddie and sky it would sell out.

Well, it's all conjecture, but I don't see how Eubank Senior's name will sell it out, given that he's not fighting.

Benn v Eubank managed to sell out old Trafford, but BOTH of them were household names, and it was a rematch, and a HUGE grudge match.

I think you'll find that there are very few, if any fights in this country, that have sold out a football stadium, where one of the fighters wasn't from these shores. McGuigan v Pedroza is the most recent one I can think of, at Loftus road, which was a small ground by comparison.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Of course Froch and groves were better known. There first fight got coverage in mainstream media on TV, in the newspapers. They spent months and months hyping the rematch and went on a massive publicity tour. Froch was already a big name because he was a multiple times world champ who built his profile over many years, and Groves helped massively sell the fight.

Most people in this country have zero idea who GGG is, you're living in a dream world. Comparing GGG with Cheltenham races is completely foolish. the Cheltenham races are a national institution, like the Grand National or the London Marathon, GGG is not anything like that. People aren't going to turn up watch someone fight as an event, that they have never heard of. At Aintree the horses are secondary to the event, not so in boxing.

If you walk down a high street and asked people to name british boxers of past and present I think the name Eubank would come up a lot more than froch groves personally. You say they hyped up the last Wembley fight do you not think Eddie would do exactly the same with this? From the people I saw at Froch Groves most of them didnt have a clue what was going on who was fighting who same as a lot of people at AJ fights they are just there because it was a hyped up event. I wasnt comparing GGG on his own to Cheltenham I just think if this was hyped up like it would be with Eddie and sky it would sell out.

Well, it's all conjecture, but I don't see how Eubank Senior's name will sell it out, given that he's not fighting.

Benn v Eubank managed to sell out old Trafford, but BOTH of them were household names, and it was a rematch, and a HUGE grudge match.

I think you'll find that there are very few, if any fights in this country, that have sold out a football stadium, where one of the fighters wasn't from these shores. McGuigan v Pedroza is the most recent one I can think of, at Loftus road, which was a small ground by comparison.

I might be wrong but just feel there would be enough casuals that would buy into the Eubank bullshit and enough genuine boxing fans would want to see GGG.

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

afcmarshall wrote: If you walk down a high street and asked people to name british boxers of past and present I think the name Eubank would come up a lot more than froch groves personally. You say they hyped up the last Wembley fight do you not think Eddie would do exactly the same with this? From the people I saw at Froch Groves most of them didnt have a clue what was going on who was fighting who same as a lot of people at AJ fights they are just there because it was a hyped up event. I wasnt comparing GGG on his own to Cheltenham I just think if this was hyped up like it would be with Eddie and sky it would sell out.

Well, it's all conjecture, but I don't see how Eubank Senior's name will sell it out, given that he's not fighting.

Benn v Eubank managed to sell out old Trafford, but BOTH of them were household names, and it was a rematch, and a HUGE grudge match.

I think you'll find that there are very few, if any fights in this country, that have sold out a football stadium, where one of the fighters wasn't from these shores. McGuigan v Pedroza is the most recent one I can think of, at Loftus road, which was a small ground by comparison.

I might be wrong but just feel there would be enough casuals that would buy into the Eubank bullshit and enough genuine boxing fans would want to see GGG.

No way a promoter is going to risk taking on a venue of that size on a whim, they could sell 40,000 tickets and lose a small fortune.

Why do that when you can sell out a smaller venue without taking the risk? They will easily sell out the 02, they'll have some very tasty ticket prices for anywhere on the ground. GGG will be demanding a lot of money to come over and put his belt on the line.

The other problem with Wembley, is it's the arse end of nowhere with shite transport links.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Well, it's all conjecture, but I don't see how Eubank Senior's name will sell it out, given that he's not fighting.

Benn v Eubank managed to sell out old Trafford, but BOTH of them were household names, and it was a rematch, and a HUGE grudge match.

I think you'll find that there are very few, if any fights in this country, that have sold out a football stadium, where one of the fighters wasn't from these shores. McGuigan v Pedroza is the most recent one I can think of, at Loftus road, which was a small ground by comparison.

I might be wrong but just feel there would be enough casuals that would buy into the Eubank bullshit and enough genuine boxing fans would want to see GGG.

No way a promoter is going to risk taking on a venue of that size on a whim, they could sell 40,000 tickets and lose a small fortune.

Why do that when you can sell out a smaller venue without taking the risk? They will easily sell out the 02, they'll have some very tasty ticket prices for anywhere on the ground. GGG will be demanding a lot of money to come over and put his belt on the line.

The other problem with Wembley, is it's the arse end of nowhere with shite transport links.

unless you live a few stops down on the tube like me just hope where ever it maybe the fight actually happens and theres enough tickets to go round

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

afcmarshall wrote: I might be wrong but just feel there would be enough casuals that would buy into the Eubank bullshit and enough genuine boxing fans would want to see GGG.

No way a promoter is going to risk taking on a venue of that size on a whim, they could sell 40,000 tickets and lose a small fortune.

Why do that when you can sell out a smaller venue without taking the risk? They will easily sell out the 02, they'll have some very tasty ticket prices for anywhere on the ground. GGG will be demanding a lot of money to come over and put his belt on the line.

The other problem with Wembley, is it's the arse end of nowhere with shite transport links.

unless you live a few stops down on the tube like me just hope where ever it maybe the fight actually happens and theres enough tickets to go round

Yeah, if you live nearby, great, if you don't, good luck getting home without spending a small fortune on a cab.

Mind you, last time I saw boxing at the 02, the tube finished before we could get there, absolute chaos, thousands of people waiting for cabs, took about 2 hours to get a cab.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
No way a promoter is going to risk taking on a venue of that size on a whim, they could sell 40,000 tickets and lose a small fortune.

Why do that when you can sell out a smaller venue without taking the risk? They will easily sell out the 02, they'll have some very tasty ticket prices for anywhere on the ground. GGG will be demanding a lot of money to come over and put his belt on the line.

The other problem with Wembley, is it's the arse end of nowhere with shite transport links.

unless you live a few stops down on the tube like me just hope where ever it maybe the fight actually happens and theres enough tickets to go round

Yeah, if you live nearby, great, if you don't, good luck getting home without spending a small fortune on a cab.

Mind you, last time I saw boxing at the 02, the tube finished before we could get there, absolute chaos, thousands of people waiting for cabs, took about 2 hours to get a cab.

Both the o2 and Wembley are pretty well served via tube, train and bus problems are when things such as boxing finish so late at night and the train connections ect have finished.

afcmarshall wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

afcmarshall wrote: unless you live a few stops down on the tube like me just hope where ever it maybe the fight actually happens and theres enough tickets to go round

Yeah, if you live nearby, great, if you don't, good luck getting home without spending a small fortune on a cab.

Mind you, last time I saw boxing at the 02, the tube finished before we could get there, absolute chaos, thousands of people waiting for cabs, took about 2 hours to get a cab.

Both the o2 and Wembley are pretty well served via tube, train and bus problems are when things such as boxing finish so late at night and the train connections ect have finished.

Wembley's connections are way slower than the 02, but yes agreed. It's a bastard getting home from either once the tube stops if you don't live in West London.

I tried to walk from the 02 to public transport once, it was a nightmare, so far away. When you're off your tits and the sun's coming up on a roasting summer's morning it felt like I was in an episode of Tenko.

When Eubanks will call off their bluff and sign that goddamn contract?!