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PsychoGamerTwo wrote:people the same size as my 14yr old shouldn't be HoF.

Why ?

lefty wrote:Framptons not Irish .......

The Frampton fans in Manchester for the Quigg fight were very much Ulstermen, not Irish. I didn't see one tricolour and don't think they'd have been welcome.

common steve collins 2 weight world champion real belts , no way

Stuarty30 wrote:

Crease wrote:

lefty wrote:Framptons not Irish .......

Whilst Cark comes from a protestant background, he fought for Ireland.

Yeah I think he's proud of his dual background/heritage. He has fans from both sides in Ireland and all over Britain just like his mentor McGuigan. He's just a very likeable guy. Apparently they've taken to him well in New York as well. Really hope he does this

barry wasnt dual nationality ,i know he married a protestant, frampton is not dual either think he married a catholic .i think Wayne McCullough was the first boxer for me to break the divide i remember seeing him with a tricolour flag and thought he was catholic ,remember his fight with naz wanting him to win i was shocked when i read he was from the shankill road, and he will go down as one of my favourite boxers

brilo33 wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

Crease wrote: Whilst Cark comes from a protestant background, he fought for Ireland.

Yeah I think he's proud of his dual background/heritage. He has fans from both sides in Ireland and all over Britain just like his mentor McGuigan. He's just a very likeable guy. Apparently they've taken to him well in New York as well. Really hope he does this

barry wasnt dual nationality ,i know he married a protestant, frampton is not dual either think he married a catholic .i think Wayne McCullough was the first boxer for me to break the divide i remember seeing him with a tricolour flag and thought he was catholic ,remember his fight with naz wanting him to win i was shocked when i read he was from the shankill road, and he will go down as one of my favourite boxers

I just meant in the sense he's proud to be British/Irish

Stuarty30 wrote:

brilo33 wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
Yeah I think he's proud of his dual background/heritage. He has fans from both sides in Ireland and all over Britain just like his mentor McGuigan. He's just a very likeable guy. Apparently they've taken to him well in New York as well. Really hope he does this

barry wasnt dual nationality ,i know he married a protestant, frampton is not dual either think he married a catholic .i think Wayne McCullough was the first boxer for me to break the divide i remember seeing him with a tricolour flag and thought he was catholic ,remember his fight with naz wanting him to win i was shocked when i read he was from the shankill road, and he will go down as one of my favourite boxers

I just meant in the sense he's proud to be British/Irish

barry is not British he is an irish fighter in my eyes

dont want a start fight we all have our own beliefs, the world is to fucked up at the moment

Supremo wrote:If he had any pride he would have fought Rigondeuax and attempted to prove he was the "world champion". Completely lost respect for him when he moved up to avoid him.

I think the weight was the issue,sbw was killin him

thechump wrote:

Supremo wrote:If he had any pride he would have fought Rigondeuax and attempted to prove he was the "world champion". Completely lost respect for him when he moved up to avoid him.

I think the weight was the issue,sbw was killin him

Money would no doubt have been the main factor here. Purists might hanker for a Frampton Rigo fight at 122 but broadcasters aren't prepared to pay big bucks for Rigo fights and so Carl at the age of 29 is chasing the fights that will earn him the most money, rightly so imo

I don't blame anyone for not fighting Rigo, he's a horrible proposition for anyone. Like it or not, the quigg and LSC fights were bigger.

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

thechump wrote:

Supremo wrote:If he had any pride he would have fought Rigondeuax and attempted to prove he was the "world champion". Completely lost respect for him when he moved up to avoid him.

I think the weight was the issue,sbw was killin him

Money would no doubt have been the main factor here. Purists might hanker for a Frampton Rigo fight at 122 but broadcasters aren't prepared to pay big bucks for Rigo fights and so Carl at the age of 29 is chasing the fights that will earn him the most money, rightly so imo

Depends what's more important to you- pride and legacy or a few hundred grand more in the bank.
I am a boxing fan, not an accountant.

thechump wrote:

Supremo wrote:If he had any pride he would have fought Rigondeuax and attempted to prove he was the "world champion". Completely lost respect for him when he moved up to avoid him.

I think the weight was the issue,sbw was killin him[/]
It was a risk vs reward decision and nothing else.

Supremo wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

thechump wrote: I think the weight was the issue,sbw was killin him

Money would no doubt have been the main factor here. Purists might hanker for a Frampton Rigo fight at 122 but broadcasters aren't prepared to pay big bucks for Rigo fights and so Carl at the age of 29 is chasing the fights that will earn him the most money, rightly so imo

Depends what's more important to you- pride and legacy or a few hundred grand more in the bank.
I am a boxing fan, not an accountant.

Frampton is doing exactly the right thing for his career and his family. Hes getting well paid now why should he take a big drop in money at this stage? He doesn't owe anyone anything.

brilo33 wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

brilo33 wrote:
barry wasnt dual nationality ,i know he married a protestant, frampton is not dual either think he married a catholic .i think Wayne McCullough was the first boxer for me to break the divide i remember seeing him with a tricolour flag and thought he was catholic ,remember his fight with naz wanting him to win i was shocked when i read he was from the shankill road, and he will go down as one of my favourite boxers

I just meant in the sense he's proud to be British/Irish

barry is not British he is an irish fighter in my eyes

I didn't say he was. I was talking about Frampton.

samwbr wrote:

Supremo wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:
Money would no doubt have been the main factor here. Purists might hanker for a Frampton Rigo fight at 122 but broadcasters aren't prepared to pay big bucks for Rigo fights and so Carl at the age of 29 is chasing the fights that will earn him the most money, rightly so imo

Depends what's more important to you- pride and legacy or a few hundred grand more in the bank.
I am a boxing fan, not an accountant.

Frampton is doing exactly the right thing for his career and his family. Hes getting well paid now why should he take a big drop in money at this stage? He doesn't owe anyone anything.

Because I and many others view boxing as a sport where proving yourself to be the best and taking on the biggest challenges and finding out how good you are is the point of its existence.

You and Frampton obviously see it as a business where the aim of the game is simply to maximise revenue.

I don't care about business and money and what financial success people get. I care about who is the best fighter and who has the most balls.

Somethings are more important than money to me.

Supremo wrote:

samwbr wrote:

Supremo wrote:

Depends what's more important to you- pride and legacy or a few hundred grand more in the bank.
I am a boxing fan, not an accountant.

Frampton is doing exactly the right thing for his career and his family. Hes getting well paid now why should he take a big drop in money at this stage? He doesn't owe anyone anything.

Because I and many others view boxing as a sport where proving yourself to be the best and taking on the biggest challenges and finding out how good you are is the point of its existence.

You and Frampton obviously see it as a business where the aim of the game is simply to maximise revenue.

I don't care about business and money and what financial success people get. I care about who is the best fighter and who has the most balls.

Somethings are more important than money to me.

I'm sure most fighters see it differently. It's a short dangerous career and you should do what's best for yourself. From a fans perspective I agree with you but that being said LSC at Feather is a dangerous fight and a top contest.

He's getting a lot more money moving up to fight LSC than he would be by facing Rigo at SuperBantam so it's a no brainier. He's also mentioned he was struggling at the weight and IMO that showed in his last two performances.

Supremo wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:

thechump wrote: I think the weight was the issue,sbw was killin him

Money would no doubt have been the main factor here. Purists might hanker for a Frampton Rigo fight at 122 but broadcasters aren't prepared to pay big bucks for Rigo fights and so Carl at the age of 29 is chasing the fights that will earn him the most money, rightly so imo

Depends what's more important to you- pride and legacy or a few hundred grand more in the bank.
I am a boxing fan, not an accountant.

I think he will get more respect and more money fighting lsc than he would rigo,no one likes rigo and imo frampton would of beat him anyway so lsc is a bigger fight at a bigger weight for a bigger pay packet and more dangerous,he doesnt need rigo and never has done

thechump wrote:

Supremo wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:
Money would no doubt have been the main factor here. Purists might hanker for a Frampton Rigo fight at 122 but broadcasters aren't prepared to pay big bucks for Rigo fights and so Carl at the age of 29 is chasing the fights that will earn him the most money, rightly so imo

Depends what's more important to you- pride and legacy or a few hundred grand more in the bank.
I am a boxing fan, not an accountant.

I think he will get more respect and more money fighting lsc than he would rigo,no one likes rigo and imo frampton would of beat him anyway so lsc is a bigger fight at a bigger weight for a bigger pay packet and more dangerous,he doesnt need rigo and never has done

Well you and him are entitled to that view but just don't call yourself "world champion" because he was one in name only.

Supremo wrote:

thechump wrote:

Supremo wrote:

Depends what's more important to you- pride and legacy or a few hundred grand more in the bank.
I am a boxing fan, not an accountant.

I think he will get more respect and more money fighting lsc than he would rigo,no one likes rigo and imo frampton would of beat him anyway so lsc is a bigger fight at a bigger weight for a bigger pay packet and more dangerous,he doesnt need rigo and never has done

Well you and him are entitled to that view but just don't call yourself "world champion" because he was one in name only.

Dont call myself world champion? What do u mean buddy?

If Carl wins he is the greatest Irish fighter ever

Supremo wrote:

samwbr wrote:

Supremo wrote:

Depends what's more important to you- pride and legacy or a few hundred grand more in the bank.
I am a boxing fan, not an accountant.

Frampton is doing exactly the right thing for his career and his family. Hes getting well paid now why should he take a big drop in money at this stage? He doesn't owe anyone anything.

Because I and many others view boxing as a sport where proving yourself to be the best and taking on the biggest challenges and finding out how good you are is the point of its existence.

You and Frampton obviously see it as a business where the aim of the game is simply to maximise revenue.

I don't care about business and money and what financial success people get. I care about who is the best fighter and who has the most balls.

Somethings are more important than money to me.

I'm a boxing fan, surely anyone on these boards is? It's all well and good talking about legacy but it's not us going through a training camp and putting our lives on the line. At the level of these fights you do the best for yourself.

Leo Santa Cruz is hardly any easy option for Frampton, away from home even more so.

mullenman wrote:If Carl wins he is the greatest Irish fighter ever

Santa Cruz isn't a top 10 P4Per or anything, so what would be so great about Frampton beating him?

Beating a two weight undefeated world champion would be unbelievable impressive..they should put a statue of him in Belfast if he wins this fight

mullenman wrote:Beating a two weight undefeated world champion would be unbelievable impressive..they should put a statue of him in Belfast if he wins this fight

Three weight

mullenman wrote:Beating a two weight undefeated world champion would be unbelievable impressive..they should put a statue of him in Belfast if he wins this fight

Are you joking?