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Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 12:06
by Horse
BitPlayer wrote:I think, assuming he still wants to fight, have a Sexton-Mcdermott eliminator.
That would be reasonable.
If none of the top fighters want the title, then the lower ranked fighters need to win eliminators to at least give them an iota of respectability heading into a British title fight.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 12:14
by Stuarty
Horse wrote:BitPlayer wrote:I think, assuming he still wants to fight, have a Sexton-Mcdermott eliminator.
That would be reasonable.
If none of the top fighters want the title, then the lower ranked fighters need to win eliminators to at least give them an iota of respectability heading into a British title fight.
I wouldn't mind that either. The board need to get their finger out.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 12:15
by wesshaw1985
British Title should be between the top 3/4 in the UK that hasnt moved past the title already.
Tyson, AJ and Hate are past the title.
Chisora, Price, Whyte and Hughie Fury should be the names in for it, if they reject move down the list.
After these you are getting into the Cornish, Sprott, Sexton and Lewison levels. These guys should have to beat at least another lower level Brit to qualify for a shot...
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 12:24
by maley1984
Why r people mentioning McDermott his not boxed in 3 years. Won English and never defended it.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 12:26
by maley1984
Stuarty30 wrote:Horse wrote:BitPlayer wrote:I think, assuming he still wants to fight, have a Sexton-Mcdermott eliminator.
That would be reasonable.
If none of the top fighters want the title, then the lower ranked fighters need to win eliminators to at least give them an iota of respectability heading into a British title fight.
I wouldn't mind that either. The board need to get their finger out.
Can't blame the board they have made fights. well sent them to purse bids. But the fights haven't happened. Board ordered Allen v sexton as a eliminator and English title last month. With Allen's loss that can't happen
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 12:48
by Stuarty
maley1984 wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Horse wrote:That would be reasonable.
If none of the top fighters want the title, then the lower ranked fighters need to win eliminators to at least give them an iota of respectability heading into a British title fight.
I wouldn't mind that either. The board need to get their finger out.
Can't blame the board they have made fights. well sent them to purse bids. But the fights haven't happened. Board ordered Allen v sexton as a eliminator and English title last month. With Allen's loss that can't happen
I wouldn't have minded if Allen and Whyte contested the British at the weekend tbh but the board said no. To be fair they did order Whyte v Fury but Fury declined.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 12:50
by maley1984
Stuarty30 wrote:maley1984 wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:
I wouldn't mind that either. The board need to get their finger out.
Can't blame the board they have made fights. well sent them to purse bids. But the fights haven't happened. Board ordered Allen v sexton as a eliminator and English title last month. With Allen's loss that can't happen
I wouldn't have minded if Allen and Whyte contested the British at the weekend tbh but the board said no. To be fair they did order Whyte v Fury but Fury declined.
But did Allen deserve a shot imo no.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 13:00
by Stuarty
maley1984 wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:maley1984 wrote:
Can't blame the board they have made fights. well sent them to purse bids. But the fights haven't happened. Board ordered Allen v sexton as a eliminator and English title last month. With Allen's loss that can't happen
I wouldn't have minded if Allen and Whyte contested the British at the weekend tbh but the board said no. To be fair they did order Whyte v Fury but Fury declined.
But did Allen deserve a shot imo no.
Not really but if he managed to beat Whyte it would've been fair game. I'd just much rather the title was being contested tbh. There's been talk of Whyte v Chisora. That's a decent British title fight. Or either of them v Price but God knows what's happening with Price just now. Can't see him going in with either Whyte or Chisora anytime soon.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 13:04
by Horse
Why would Price duck Whyte? If he can beat him then he might get a shot at Joshua.
If he can't beat Whyte then what can Price realistically achieve in boxing?
What else is he going to do? How is he going to get an easier shot at big opportunities than a Whyte fight?
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 13:49
by BitPlayer
Price needs to rebuild his confidence to beat anyone decent, and I don't think it'll happen sadly. In truth I don't think he should be boxing at all. All he's going to do is beat a load of journeyman then get knocked out quickly when he steps up.
The reason he wouldn't fight Whyte is because another quick knock out would pretty much end him, and I think that's pretty likely.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 13:59
by rd350lc
Is Mcdermott still an active fighter ? when was the last time he fought ?
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 14:01
by Horse
BitPlayer wrote:Price needs to rebuild his confidence to beat anyone decent, and I don't think it'll happen sadly. In truth I don't think he should be boxing at all. All he's going to do is beat a load of journeyman then get knocked out quickly when he steps up.
The reason he wouldn't fight Whyte is because another quick knock out would pretty much end him, and I think that's pretty likely.
I think the loss of confidence thing with Price is overstated.
I don't think that Price was ever really very good and he was never very confident. He's lost when he's stepped up because he isn't good enough, not because he's lost confidence.
The guy can't even throw a competent jab. Can anyone explain why his jab is so bad? I'd expect better from a novice.
Is Price capable of improving?
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 14:05
by Horse
rd350lc wrote:Is Mcdermott still an active fighter ? when was the last time he fought ?
He last fought just under 3.5 years ago.
Everyone keeps pulling out of fights against him before he gets the chance to enter the ring.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 14:39
by Stuarty
Horse wrote:Why would Price duck Whyte? If he can beat him then he might get a shot at Joshua.
If he can't beat Whyte then what can Price realistically achieve in boxing?
What else is he going to do? How is he going to get an easier shot at big opportunities than a Whyte fight?
I can't speak for the guy I just don't see him taking on anyone dangerous in the immediate future. He's damaged goods.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 14:40
by Stuarty
Horse wrote:rd350lc wrote:Is Mcdermott still an active fighter ? when was the last time he fought ?
He last fought just under 3.5 years ago.
Everyone keeps pulling out of fights against him before he gets the chance to enter the ring.
Give yourself peace Horse. If he was serious about fighting he'd have fought by now!
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 14:41
by gilgamesh
Stuarty30 wrote:Horse wrote:Why would Price duck Whyte? If he can beat him then he might get a shot at Joshua.
If he can't beat Whyte then what can Price realistically achieve in boxing?
What else is he going to do? How is he going to get an easier shot at big opportunities than a Whyte fight?
I can't speak for the guy I just don't see him taking on anyone dangerous in the immediate future. He's damaged goods.
I'm with Horse on this one. Whyte would definitely be dangerous for Price, but it's the most winnable dangerous fight out there for him that would actually get him somewhere with a win.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 14:42
by Crease
Whyte has it for me.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 14:42
by gilgamesh
Whyte would stop Sexton I figure.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 14:45
by Stuarty
gilgamesh wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Horse wrote:Why would Price duck Whyte? If he can beat him then he might get a shot at Joshua.
If he can't beat Whyte then what can Price realistically achieve in boxing?
What else is he going to do? How is he going to get an easier shot at big opportunities than a Whyte fight?
I can't speak for the guy I just don't see him taking on anyone dangerous in the immediate future. He's damaged goods.
I'm with Horse on this one. Whyte would definitely be dangerous for Price, but it's the most winnable dangerous fight out there for him that would actually get him somewhere with a win.
I'm not disagreeing. If the Whyte fight presents itself to Price he should go for it. I just don't think he will. He'll probably spend the rest of the year knocking out fat Latvians.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 15:02
by ShadrachSimmo
Horse wrote:rd350lc wrote:Is Mcdermott still an active fighter ? when was the last time he fought ?
He last fought just under 3.5 years ago.
Everyone keeps pulling out of fights against him before he gets the chance to enter the ring.
But can he win a British title horse?
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 15:13
by Horse
ShadrachSimmo wrote:But can he win a British title horse?
If he fought a chump like Sexton, yes.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 15:29
by ShadrachSimmo
Horse wrote:ShadrachSimmo wrote:But can he win a British title horse?
If he fought a chump like Sexton, yes.
Excellent.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 15:29
by BitPlayer
Horse wrote:BitPlayer wrote:Price needs to rebuild his confidence to beat anyone decent, and I don't think it'll happen sadly. In truth I don't think he should be boxing at all. All he's going to do is beat a load of journeyman then get knocked out quickly when he steps up.
The reason he wouldn't fight Whyte is because another quick knock out would pretty much end him, and I think that's pretty likely.
I think the loss of confidence thing with Price is overstated.
I don't think that Price was ever really very good and he was never very confident. He's lost when he's stepped up because he isn't good enough, not because he's lost confidence.
The guy can't even throw a competent jab. Can anyone explain why his jab is so bad? I'd expect better from a novice.
Is Price capable of improving?
I don't think he was ever great, but looking at older vs newer fights I think he confidence and thus his effectiveness really have dropped, he never looked that confident, but he looks a lot more nervious now being scared to commit to a punch at all, which is why I think his jab looks so bad, he sort of paws it rather than throwing it is the best I can put it, there's no force nor speed.
I don't want to say he can't improve, but I've seen nothing to suggest it.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 15:37
by Horse
BitPlayer wrote:I don't think he was ever great, but looking at older vs newer fights I think he confidence and thus his effectiveness really have dropped, he never looked that confident, but he looks a lot more nervious now being scared to commit to a punch at all, which is why I think his jab looks so bad, he sort of paws it rather than throwing it is the best I can put it, there's no force nor speed.
I don't want to say he can't improve, but I've seen nothing to suggest it.
The guy is a complete mess. He's got to be one of the wimpiest prospects in boxing history.
How can a fighter be afraid of committing to a jab? A weak, ponderous jab just makes it more likely that he'll get countered.
He's making it more likely that he'll get knocked out. What's wrong with him?
He should be snapping out a strong jab through fear if nothing else, trying to keep his opponent off him.
Re: Sam Sexton calls out Dillian Whyte - 'Grow some balls'
Posted: 02 Aug 2016, 18:25
by SAPFO
Sexton vs Whyte is an ITV4 job