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I interviewed lamotta 2 years ago and he was sharp as a tack mentally, I haven't heard anything about him having dementia

gilgamesh wrote:

x2x wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:Edwin Valero, Vernon Forrest, Corrie Sanders, Johnny Tapia, Diego Corrales. All common knowledge but pretty shocking. I loved Johnny Tapia and was genuinely gutted when he passed.

Edwin Valero was a crazy little bastard!

Corrie Sanders was murdered. I think that he could have been the best heavyweight of them all if he had trained like he did for the Wlad fight, but he hated training. I believe that Edwin Valero was also murdered, in that jail cell.

Trained like he did for the Wlad fight? He was chubby and not in peak shape against Wlad as well. He just caught him early before he ever had a chance to get tired. He was in better shape when he lost to Rahman.

I remember reading an article about how Sanders trained very, very hard for the Wlad fight.

I wish I could find it. It was an interesting article. I think he was working with a professional trainer outside
the boxing gym, doing lots of weight workouts to supplement the gym work.

x2x wrote:I didn't know about Sam. He died last year from liver failure, age 41. Was that caused by punches?

Caused by too much punch

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
The uncrowned Heavyweight champion, Wilt Chamberlain, is dead. Though he is alive and well in Kalan's fantasies of gay love.

You just know that there's a disturbing Wilt shrine in ma Kalans basement, alle stacked up with lube and tissues

^ ^ James, you READ Pugilistic's comment?

pugilisticprofessor wrote:I interviewed lamotta 2 years ago and he was sharp as a tack mentally, I haven't heard anything about him having dementia

May I ask? Anything come up about his "death" earlier the false reprt?

It's easy to forget that Trevor Berbick is dead & has been for a decade!

He has featured in one of boxing's most famous clips, that of him falling over repeatedly like a newborn giraffe from a single Tyson blow!

A lot of people.

SFW wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:My parakeet died... he stuck his head between the bars on his cage and committed suicide after I read him a couple of Kalan posts.

Alas, he was a good bird. One that flew right and true, over tiny distances of course. But even the animal kingdom, when subjected to such treacherous and borderline criminal acts of savagery said "Kalan" murders the senses with, death seems like a viable option. I have no doubt the good Lord forgave him and he is chirping fantastically in his new home above. The bad man can't hurt you anymore chirp chirp.

Thank you. I feel better now

I had forgotten also about Greg Page.

I wonder who wins a fight in the afterworld between and Wilt Chamberlain?

BrackaBarclay wrote:I had forgotten also about Greg Page.

I wonder who wins a fight in the afterworld between and Wilt Chamberlain?

Wilt Chamberlain is now God, he went up there, (he actually jumped there from a standing jump) and despite never having been the omnipresent all seeing creator and overseer of the cosmos, he merely thought about challenging god, and just by doing so, proved himself the most omnipresent sentience in the cosmos, and god disappeared.

The ever present, ever was, ever will be, Wilt Chamberlain.

hhaehre wrote:

x2x wrote:I didn't know about Sam. He died last year from liver failure, age 41. Was that caused by punches?

Caused by too much punch

Rum punch perhaps. Sam was an alcoholic on the waiting list for a liver transplant for 5 years

http://www.dailysabah.com/sports/2015/1 ... r-his-life

x2x wrote:

gilgamesh wrote: Trained like he did for the Wlad fight? He was chubby and not in peak shape against Wlad as well. He just caught him early before he ever had a chance to get tired. He was in better shape when he lost to Rahman.

You don't even know what you're talking about.

I believe he does. I remember the commentators saying that he had pretty much come directly from the golf course to the ring. after being semi retired for the previous couple of years. I can't remember if he was a late replacement. He was a natural athlete and never trained that much as i understand it.

Shirow wrote:

x2x wrote:

gilgamesh wrote: Trained like he did for the Wlad fight? He was chubby and not in peak shape against Wlad as well. He just caught him early before he ever had a chance to get tired. He was in better shape when he lost to Rahman.

You don't even know what you're talking about.

I believe he does. I remember the commentators saying that he had pretty much come directly from the golf course to the ring. after being semi retired for the previous couple of years. I can't remember if he was a late replacement. He was a natural athlete and never trained that much as i understand it.

Yep the commentators did make comments about his being semi-retired and having barely trained, and yes I do believe they mentioned he was more focused on his golfing than his boxing at the time.

Shirow wrote:

hhaehre wrote:

x2x wrote:I didn't know about Sam. He died last year from liver failure, age 41. Was that caused by punches?

Caused by too much punch

Rum punch perhaps. Sam was an alcoholic on the waiting list for a liver transplant for 5 years

http://www.dailysabah.com/sports/2015/1 ... r-his-life

Christ a failing liver by the age of 41 - that's some going, he really must have given it some, especially for such a big man.

Cutman Scabbers wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

x2x wrote:



Corrie Sanders was murdered. I think that he could have been the best heavyweight of them all if he had trained like he did for the Wlad fight, but he hated training. I believe that Edwin Valero was also murdered, in that jail cell.

Trained like he did for the Wlad fight? He was chubby and not in peak shape against Wlad as well. He just caught him early before he ever had a chance to get tired. He was in better shape when he lost to Rahman.

I remember reading an article about how Sanders trained very, very hard for the Wlad fight.

I wish I could find it. It was an interesting article. I think he was working with a professional trainer outside
the boxing gym, doing lots of weight workouts to supplement the gym work.

I remember that article too, and likewise I wouldn't know how to find it now. CS, for the one and only time in his life I think, really got into the training thing for the Wlad fight. He was working hard with all sorts of innovative methods. Wlad had the misfortune to come up against him that one time. And then for the biggest fight of his life, the follow up with Vitali, he showed up fat. I was suspicious of his condition when all the pictures of him training showed him wearing a loose sweatshirt. I couldn't believe the way he showed up, ten pounds heavier than he did for Wlad. And still he was missing Vitali with bombs by inches all night long. He could have been the best of them all.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

x2x wrote:



Corrie Sanders was murdered. I think that he could have been the best heavyweight of them all if he had trained like he did for the Wlad fight, but he hated training. I believe that Edwin Valero was also murdered, in that jail cell.

I thought he done himself in? Was there suggestion of some skullduggery?

Valero murdered himself...

So they say. So they say.

x2x wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:
I thought he done himself in? Was there suggestion of some skullduggery?

Valero murdered himself...

So they say. So they say.

Doesn't matter to me, good riddance either way.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

x2x wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Valero murdered himself...

So they say. So they say.

Doesn't matter to me, good riddance either way.

He was a nasty wee piece of work!

x2x wrote:

Cutman Scabbers wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Trained like he did for the Wlad fight? He was chubby and not in peak shape against Wlad as well. He just caught him early before he ever had a chance to get tired. He was in better shape when he lost to Rahman.

I remember reading an article about how Sanders trained very, very hard for the Wlad fight.

I wish I could find it. It was an interesting article. I think he was working with a professional trainer outside
the boxing gym, doing lots of weight workouts to supplement the gym work.

I remember that article too, and likewise I wouldn't know how to find it now. CS, for the one and only time in his life I think, really got into the training thing for the Wlad fight. He was working hard with all sorts of innovative methods. Wlad had the misfortune to come up against him that one time. And then for the biggest fight of his life, the follow up with Vitali, he showed up fat. I was suspicious of his condition when all the pictures of him training showed him wearing a loose sweatshirt. I couldn't believe the way he showed up, ten pounds heavier than he did for Wlad. And still he was missing Vitali with bombs by inches all night long. He could have been the best of them all.

Yes and in addition to the serious, high-tech physical training, I believe he was seeing a sports psychologist.

Cutman Scabbers wrote:
Yes and in addition to the serious, high-tech physical training, I believe he was seeing a sports psychologist.

Yes - I remember him working with a woman with innovative training ideas - advanced yoga, I don't know what all. He really got into it. He was a fantastic natural athlete. He was winning sprinting events when he was younger. But for the Rahman fight he didn't run a step, no endurance training at all. He said his foot was hurt. It came back on him. He was beating up Rahman and knocking him around like a rag doll - and then he ran out of gas. In his final fight, vs. Machimana, I am sure that he didn't even do a single situp. He got punched in the stomach and fell down for the count and that was the end of his comeback.

Rahman was just too much man.

Looking over the BoxRec lists of deceased by year...I find that their are hundreds of names I am NOT familiar with.
I think everyone living knows that Carl The Truth Williams is gone. And Vernon Forest well known. Eckhard Dagge you'd think....stands out. Of course Berbick ^ ^ who, has excellent reputation early. LaMar Clark is dead (2006). South Africa's big Maxwell "Happy Boy" Malinga is dead (2006). < < I used to subscribe to S.A. Boxing World so....I would know about him big! Ex world champ Alphonse Halimi, dead and gone a while now. Al Hostak dead a while now. Terry McGroom a H of note died this year. Age 50. Walter McGowan seem like antient champ, but, he was only 73..dead day after Valentines Day this year.
Vincent Boulware is dead. July 29 this year. He fought Al Cole, and "toughest man on Earth," Kenny Keene (when Keene was 27-0-0).
Floyd Patterson been gone ten-years now!

Howard Davis 59

What happened to the heavyweight Carlos Hernandez, who fought George Foreman?

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