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Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 11:27
by Taansend
Horse wrote:
Rexob wrote:It's a joke fight for Joshua just shows what they really think of his ability's. Nothing wrong with Hughie mind, he just needs a few more years to develop.
It's a good quality British title fight.
Very true. In the days of only one champion this would be a good springboard fight.

Nowadays however it would count as a 'world' title fight.

I'd rather Huggie have a couple of sterner tests first but I give him a chance right now.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 12:02
by Sklar
mickey1975 wrote:Whyte is a pal, so can't fight Hughie.
Can't get my head around it when boxers say they won't fight pals. To me it's a sign of weakness, shows you take a fight personally.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 12:16
by BillyTKid
BitPlayer wrote:
BillyTKid wrote:My theory is that his health has not got better and this is a cash out fight.
Peter has got money, and I'm sure Hughie could make money a number of otherways, no way would he risk his sons health, and his son his own health, purely for a quick buck.
I don't mean he will be dead on his legs. More that this health issue will be a long term problem, severely reducing his potential. Therefore they have decided to jump the queue, fight for the title and he will probably get 500k to 1m for doing so.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 12:22
by Horse
Sklar wrote:Can't get my head around it when boxers say they won't fight pals. To me it's a sign of weakness, shows you take a fight personally.
A lot of them aren't even mates, they've just chatted a few times.

Such sentimentality disgusts me.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 12:31
by BitPlayer
Sklar wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:Whyte is a pal, so can't fight Hughie.
Can't get my head around it when boxers say they won't fight pals. To me it's a sign of weakness, shows you take a fight personally.
Maybe he's more concerned about damaging his career. If Hughi beat Whyte, especially while looking slow and lathergic, it'd really mess up his chances of getting big fights.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 12:42
by mickey1975
I disagree. If he's said he's not going to fight him, so be it.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 12:53
by ScottDetonator
Great pay day for young Fury and sets up Tyson Fury Vs AJ to maximum potential. Imagine Tyson in the build up...

This fight sells but way too early for Hughie but if the numbers add up, who can blame him for taking it?

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 13:04
by Oiky
hughie out box aj and send him divvy :box:

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 13:32
by mullenman
I think it would be a great fight

I heard the hughie has a great chin

He is a boring fighter but had never really lost a round in his twenty odd fights

Lacks power but has excellent skills

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 13:39
by Taansend
mullenman wrote:I think it would be a great fight

I heard the hughie has a great chin

He is a boring fighter but had never really lost a round in his twenty odd fights

Lacks power but has excellent skills
Hello Mullenman,

I doubt if a fight with Joshua would be boring though. Mainly because it would be one of those "will he survive" types of bouts.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 13:48
by liamlion
The lad needs to fight a name at heavyweight, at least domestically, before he fights AJ.

Fury should be fighting the likes of Dave Allen and Sam Sexton, even David Price before he even publicly acknowledges a desire to go for such a shot. At this stage, I wouldnt even say the lad is a prospective British title holder let alone a world championship challenger.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 14:42
by emallini
BitPlayer wrote:
BillyTKid wrote:My theory is that his health has not got better and this is a cash out fight.
Peter has got money, and I'm sure Hughie could make money a number of otherways, no way would he risk his sons health, and his son his own health, purely for a quick buck.
Correct. The Fury clan are very very well off. They have no need to cash out. Hughie is meant to be absolutely sensational in sparring at times. Like untouchable. But he needs to be 100 percent.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 15:00
by mullenman
Taansend wrote:
mullenman wrote:I think it would be a great fight

I heard the hughie has a great chin

He is a boring fighter but had never really lost a round in his twenty odd fights

Lacks power but has excellent skills
Hello Mullenman,

I doubt if a fight with Joshua would be boring though. Mainly because it would be one of those "will he survive" types of bouts.
I agree that it would not be a boring fight
I hope the fight happens as it would be a better event than the bullshxt Americans that he faught recently

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 15:04
by Cyclops
I can't see it happening but I don't mind it if it does, to be honest. So long as Hughie has plenty of time to train and is fit, why not throw him in? Joshua's opponents have been crap thus far, so maybe Hughie's actually a step up?

I've given up on actual proper boxing in the UK. Ignorance is bliss. The casual is a happy looking creature. So yeah, brilliant! Pwopper domestic dust up! All the Fury shennanegans in the build up, the 24/7 style documentary, the "face off" or whatever the fornicate they call it. Bring it on! Wicked!

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 15:04
by brilo33
thought hughie was still on his cream, the way hugie fights at the moment is far to slow and casual aj would roll over him, but hughie can get so much better i think , would not take the fight if i was hughie yet

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 15:45
by Taansend
I remember watching Hughie's debut & being blown away by his poise. I couldn't believe how smooth & relaxed he looked. Especially for an 18 year old kid.

However, he doesn't seem any better or worse since then. Not a criticism as such. Still waiting for him to show us his full repertoire as he often seems to just be going through the motions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtqXL0uU0QU

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 16:05
by BitPlayer
Taansend wrote:I remember watching Hughie's debut & being blown away by his poise. I couldn't believe how smooth & relaxed he looked. Especially for an 18 year old kid.

However, he doesn't seem any better or worse since then. Not a criticism as such. Still waiting for him to show us his full repertoire as he often seems to just be going through the motions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtqXL0uU0QU
I thought in the Kassi fight he did look somewhat improved skillwise, but his poor health made him look poor overall. It's probably hard for him to get enoguh training to improve with his health issues.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 16:40
by Mimmy
Personally I dont think Hughie has the tools to bother AJ. I just dont think Hughie has had much opposition in his career at the moment and to be honest I think AJ would knock him out quickly. In all honesty Hughies camp need to put him in with a hungry top 5 contender first to test the water, but he needs to face stiffer boxers before he is really entitled to a world title fight.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 18:53
by Killer Blow
mimmy123 wrote:Personally I dont think Hughie has the tools to bother AJ. I just dont think Hughie has had much opposition in his career at the moment and to be honest I think AJ would knock him out quickly. In all honesty Hughies camp need to put him in with a hungry top 5 contender first to test the water, but he needs to face stiffer boxers before he is really entitled to a world title fight.
Joshua himself isn't even a top 5 contender.

And also, it would be a disgrace to boxing if this fight were to happen next. Eddie promised us one of three top 10 opponents next. If he actually gives us Tyson Fury's 21 year old cousin instead of a top contender like Pulev, he'll be permanently shit listed. I remember the amount of shit Wilder got from all of the boxing community for offering Hughie a shot. I know he only gave 3 weeks notice, but my point still stands.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 21:46
by Nightmare Roy
Horse wrote:
Rexob wrote:It's a joke fight for Joshua just shows what they really think of his ability's. Nothing wrong with Hughie mind, he just needs a few more years to develop.
It's a good quality British title fight.

Nothing wrong with it.
You are wrong.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 22:35
by crusader
I can't see Hughie holding AJ off

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 23:05
by lefty
mickey1975 wrote:
Stuarty30 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:Whyte is a pal, so can't fight Hughie.
Surely they could put their friendship on hold for a short time? It's been done many times before.
No, he won't fight him.
Lol the funny thing is Whyte said he was willing to fight Hughie. He said its business lol.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 23:06
by lefty
crusader wrote:I can't see Hughie holding AJ off
Me neither. I see Hughie getting flatted after making it awkward for 4 or 5 rounds.

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 23:14
by Taansend
The more people that choose AJ the better my odds get :OhYes:

Re: Joshua v Hughie in November?

Posted: 06 Aug 2016, 23:35
by tigermoth87
I like Hughie but no way is on this level yet. Hughie is a fighter who has potential but is a slow developed and needs a good 2 or 3 more years fighting Euro and fringe world level opponents before stepping up.

At the moment I would barely put Hughie in the top 30. That's no disrespect to him because for me he's an excellent prospect but needs more development. He's not even in the top 5 in Britain tbh. Excluding AJ; Fury, Haye, Price, Whyte and possibly even Chisora are ahead of him.

I'm not surprised AJ is looking for joke opponents. He's an utter fraud but unfortunately the casuals lap it up.