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A cry for help. I'd hazard a guess thats the real meaning behind his tweet.

Hopefully he has good people around him right now who will support him in the immediate, but ultimately, he is going to have to sort his own head out. Therapy might not be a bad option for him.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

magwitch wrote:I’ve never done cocaine but it sounds like a big bag of sh*t to me.
I doubt he’s an alcoholic. He wants to quit any drugs he’s on and it probably wouldn’t be the worst idea to consider a career change, as others have said.
It’s a strange one that success can mean you don’t have to work any more, but that’s only any good if you can handle that lifestyle.

I'd say her certainly has serious problems with alcohol; I can tell you from personal experience, that most coke fiends are also alcoholics, it's the booze that starts the trigger to fancy the coke - almost nobody does coke in isolation. I remember meeting someone who was part of Hatton's set up years ago, before he fought Tszyu, and he said that Ricky was a total pisshead and that he was in danger of blowing everything, and that was way before retirement kicked in. Alcohol is the most destructive drug there is, it leads people to make all the other bad life choices that flow from it, and rob people of their time, energy and discernment.

Absolutel rubbish. He hasn't even seen a drink problem.

Non story.

How many times in all our lives have we had girl trouble, gone out and got off our head on drink / drugs and when the night's over, everyone's gone home and we're alone with our thoughts said to ourselves some variant of " I have nothing left".

Difference is these days one press of a button and the whole world knows and the media vultures blow it out of all proportion. I don't know Ricky but the odds are he's cringing with embarrassment rather than staring at the wall wondering where it all went wrong. I hope so.

CaptainSpacerod wrote:Non story.

How many times in all our lives have we had girl trouble, gone out and got off our head on drink / drugs and when the night's over, everyone's gone home and we're alone with our thoughts said to ourselves some variant of " I have nothing left".

Difference is these days one press of a button and the whole world knows and the media vultures blow it out of all proportion. I don't know Ricky but the odds are he's cringing with embarrassment rather than staring at the wall wondering where it all went wrong. I hope so.

I hope you're right.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:Non story.

How many times in all our lives have we had girl trouble, gone out and got off our head on drink / drugs and when the night's over, everyone's gone home and we're alone with our thoughts said to ourselves some variant of " I have nothing left".

Difference is these days one press of a button and the whole world knows and the media vultures blow it out of all proportion. I don't know Ricky but the odds are he's cringing with embarrassment rather than staring at the wall wondering where it all went wrong. I hope so.

I hope you're right.

Best thing to do in that case is say “f*ck it” and move on. No sense being bothered by embarrassment, everyone has their moments, especially in drink.
He does have a billion followers on twitter tho, so it’s a bit different to 45 friends on facebook seeing it..
I do hope he is ok. I would like to see him happily back in his family’s bosom.

It must be hard making the transition from the life he had as a fighter, the adulation, the money etc... to trying to find something that he gets as much enjoyment from away from the limelight. It must be like winning the lottery and losing it all, that would be a hard pill to swallow for the best of us. I wish him well.

I think the conclusion we can all draw from this, is that being on twitter is NEVER a good idea. Least of all pissed up.

mickey1975 wrote: Absolutel rubbish. He hasn't even seen a drink problem.

Don't know how well you know him, but his mother had different views:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... -alcoholic

BigDoofus wrote:

mickey1975 wrote: Absolutel rubbish. He hasn't even seen a drink problem.

Don't know how well you know him, but his mother had different views:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... -alcoholic

I know drink better. Ricky is not an alcoholic. Sorry James, was on one.

mickey1975 wrote:

BigDoofus wrote:

mickey1975 wrote: Absolutel rubbish. He hasn't even seen a drink problem.

Don't know how well you know him, but his mother had different views:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... -alcoholic

I know drink better. Ricky is not an alcoholic. Sorry James, was on one.

I know you've had your personal experiences with this Mickey, but couldn't he still be an alcoholic but just not to the same severity you've experienced personally?

I think the use of the tag alcoholic is a problem one; I can say hand on heart I'm a terrible pisshead - that doesn't mean I drink every day, but it does mean that If I have a drink, you can guarantee I'll end up totally fornicating spanked, no matter what I tell myself beforehand, I'll always be the last man standing, and will continue to drink till there's nothing left, and then probably head out to get more - and I'll end up on the bugle too, guaranteed in 95% of cases, the history is there to prove it.

Does that make me an alcoholic, possibly, does it matter what you call it, probably not - what is certain is that alcohol is something I need to be very careful of. Just because the wheels haven't totally fallen off my life, doesn't mean it's not a problem, there's certainly been phases where it's come very close, and in most cases alcohol was implicated.

Anyway, enough about me; my point is that none of us can say for certain whether Ricky is a full blown alcoholic (whatever that definition means) - but certainly he's got a poor relationship with alcohol and is in a very bad place. Sure, maybe it was just a daft tweet when pissed, but then again, maybe not, or maybe indicative of a man in a very bad place right now.

lefty wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:

BigDoofus wrote:
Don't know how well you know him, but his mother had different views:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... -alcoholic

I know drink better. Ricky is not an alcoholic. Sorry James, was on one.

I know you've had your personal experiences with this Mickey, but couldn't he still be an alcoholic but just not to the same severity you've experienced personally?

Ah, the voice of reason...

BigDoofus wrote:

mickey1975 wrote: Absolutel rubbish. He hasn't even seen a drink problem.

Don't know how well you know him, but his mother had different views:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... -alcoholic

Did you just submit an extract from the Daily Star there as evidence? Superb sir

Didn’t the Star get scrapped when the NOTW hackers went?

Also this word “meltdown” does not sit well with me. It wasn’t a fcking meltdown at all. Maybe he wanted to write “I have absolutely nothing left in the cupboards so fish and chips for tea it is...”, but he didn’t realise you aren’t allowed to write that much?

magwitch wrote: Also this word “meltdown” does not sit well with me. It wasn’t a fcking meltdown at all. Maybe he wanted to write “I have absolutely nothing left in the cupboards so fish and chips for tea it is...”, but he didn’t realise you aren’t allowed to write that much?

Yes, that sounds like the most likely possibility.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think the use of the tag alcoholic is a problem one; I can say hand on heart I'm a terrible pisshead - that doesn't mean I drink every day, but it does mean that If I have a drink, you can guarantee I'll end up totally effing spanked, no matter what I tell myself beforehand, I'll always be the last man standing, and will continue to drink till there's nothing left, and then probably head out to get more - and I'll end up on the bugle too, guaranteed in 95% of cases, the history is there to prove it.

Does that make me an alcoholic, possibly, does it matter what you call it, probably not - what is certain is that alcohol is something I need to be very careful of. Just because the wheels haven't totally fallen off my life, doesn't mean it's not a problem, there's certainly been phases where it's come very close, and in most cases alcohol was implicated.

Anyway, enough about me; my point is that none of us can say for certain whether Ricky is a full blown alcoholic (whatever that definition means) - but certainly he's got a poor relationship with alcohol and is in a very bad place. Sure, maybe it was just a daft tweet when pissed, but then again, maybe not, or maybe indicative of a man in a very bad place right now.

This has just described my exact relationship with alcohol. I can't go out and have a few. If I go out and get on it, then after 3 pints I'm ON it. there is no middle ground, no just having a few, especially with certain mates. Therefore for the most part I just avoid it.

It's not an 'alcoholic' but I would say it's probably a 'problem with alcohol' as a closer to the truth description.

TheCobra wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think the use of the tag alcoholic is a problem one; I can say hand on heart I'm a terrible pisshead - that doesn't mean I drink every day, but it does mean that If I have a drink, you can guarantee I'll end up totally effing spanked, no matter what I tell myself beforehand, I'll always be the last man standing, and will continue to drink till there's nothing left, and then probably head out to get more - and I'll end up on the bugle too, guaranteed in 95% of cases, the history is there to prove it.

Does that make me an alcoholic, possibly, does it matter what you call it, probably not - what is certain is that alcohol is something I need to be very careful of. Just because the wheels haven't totally fallen off my life, doesn't mean it's not a problem, there's certainly been phases where it's come very close, and in most cases alcohol was implicated.

Anyway, enough about me; my point is that none of us can say for certain whether Ricky is a full blown alcoholic (whatever that definition means) - but certainly he's got a poor relationship with alcohol and is in a very bad place. Sure, maybe it was just a daft tweet when pissed, but then again, maybe not, or maybe indicative of a man in a very bad place right now.

This has just described my exact relationship with alcohol. I can't go out and have a few. If I go out and get on it, then after 3 pints I'm ON it. there is no middle ground, no just having a few, especially with certain mates. Therefore for the most part I just avoid it.

It's not an 'alcoholic' but I would say it's probably a 'problem with alcohol' as a closer to the truth description.

This is my thing, the word Alcoholic is really not very useful, it describes it as if it is a disease, which it isn't, people who have problems with alcohol tend to have problems in other areas too, often obsessive compulsive tendencies for instance - when people think of an alcoholic they think of someone whose life is wrecked, staggering around like a hobo.

My dad has drunk every single day for the last 60 years, he was a raging drunk, used to go to the pub at opening time, and got the shakes if he didn't drink, he still drinks now at 85, 1 large glass of wine a day, which is all he's allowed due to heart problems, which he whacks back in 1 gulp to get a buzz on - and yet, he never missed a day of work in his life - but he certainly had a major problem where booze is concerned.

On that note, perhaps we should organise a boxrec piss up, seems like we've got a few like minded chaps here, lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllets's get ready to Crrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumble!

ILikeBeer wrote:

magwitch wrote: Also this word “meltdown” does not sit well with me. It wasn’t a fcking meltdown at all. Maybe he wanted to write “I have absolutely nothing left in the cupboards so fish and chips for tea it is...”, but he didn’t realise you aren’t allowed to write that much?

Yes, that sounds like the most likely possibility.

Or....I have nothing left.....except a bottle of meths.

mickey1975 wrote:

BigDoofus wrote:

mickey1975 wrote: Absolutel rubbish. He hasn't even seen a drink problem.

Don't know how well you know him, but his mother had different views:

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest- ... -alcoholic

I know drink better. Ricky is not an alcoholic. Sorry James, was on one.

No offence taken.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

TheCobra wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think the use of the tag alcoholic is a problem one; I can say hand on heart I'm a terrible pisshead - that doesn't mean I drink every day, but it does mean that If I have a drink, you can guarantee I'll end up totally effing spanked, no matter what I tell myself beforehand, I'll always be the last man standing, and will continue to drink till there's nothing left, and then probably head out to get more - and I'll end up on the bugle too, guaranteed in 95% of cases, the history is there to prove it.

Does that make me an alcoholic, possibly, does it matter what you call it, probably not - what is certain is that alcohol is something I need to be very careful of. Just because the wheels haven't totally fallen off my life, doesn't mean it's not a problem, there's certainly been phases where it's come very close, and in most cases alcohol was implicated.

Anyway, enough about me; my point is that none of us can say for certain whether Ricky is a full blown alcoholic (whatever that definition means) - but certainly he's got a poor relationship with alcohol and is in a very bad place. Sure, maybe it was just a daft tweet when pissed, but then again, maybe not, or maybe indicative of a man in a very bad place right now.

This has just described my exact relationship with alcohol. I can't go out and have a few. If I go out and get on it, then after 3 pints I'm ON it. there is no middle ground, no just having a few, especially with certain mates. Therefore for the most part I just avoid it.

It's not an 'alcoholic' but I would say it's probably a 'problem with alcohol' as a closer to the truth description.

This is my thing, the word Alcoholic is really not very useful, it describes it as if it is a disease, which it isn't, people who have problems with alcohol tend to have problems in other areas too, often obsessive compulsive tendencies for instance - when people think of an alcoholic they think of someone whose life is wrecked, staggering around like a hobo.

My dad has drunk every single day for the last 60 years, he was a raging drunk, used to go to the pub at opening time, and got the shakes if he didn't drink, he still drinks now at 85, 1 large glass of wine a day, which is all he's allowed due to heart problems, which he whacks back in 1 gulp to get a buzz on - and yet, he never missed a day of work in his life - but he certainly had a major problem where booze is concerned.

On that note, perhaps we should organise a boxrec piss up, seems like we've got a few like minded chaps here, lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllets's get ready to Crrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumble!

You are very right. I do absolutely everything to the max. I think Ricky is depressed, I don't think alcohol is Gazza's primary illness, either. But what do I know, drink has cost me three relationships, two houses and virtually everything else I value in my life...

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

TheCobra wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I think the use of the tag alcoholic is a problem one; I can say hand on heart I'm a terrible pisshead - that doesn't mean I drink every day, but it does mean that If I have a drink, you can guarantee I'll end up totally effing spanked, no matter what I tell myself beforehand, I'll always be the last man standing, and will continue to drink till there's nothing left, and then probably head out to get more - and I'll end up on the bugle too, guaranteed in 95% of cases, the history is there to prove it.

Does that make me an alcoholic, possibly, does it matter what you call it, probably not - what is certain is that alcohol is something I need to be very careful of. Just because the wheels haven't totally fallen off my life, doesn't mean it's not a problem, there's certainly been phases where it's come very close, and in most cases alcohol was implicated.

Anyway, enough about me; my point is that none of us can say for certain whether Ricky is a full blown alcoholic (whatever that definition means) - but certainly he's got a poor relationship with alcohol and is in a very bad place. Sure, maybe it was just a daft tweet when pissed, but then again, maybe not, or maybe indicative of a man in a very bad place right now.

This has just described my exact relationship with alcohol. I can't go out and have a few. If I go out and get on it, then after 3 pints I'm ON it. there is no middle ground, no just having a few, especially with certain mates. Therefore for the most part I just avoid it.

It's not an 'alcoholic' but I would say it's probably a 'problem with alcohol' as a closer to the truth description.

This is my thing, the word Alcoholic is really not very useful, it describes it as if it is a disease, which it isn't, people who have problems with alcohol tend to have problems in other areas too, often obsessive compulsive tendencies for instance - when people think of an alcoholic they think of someone whose life is wrecked, staggering around like a hobo.

My dad has drunk every single day for the last 60 years, he was a raging drunk, used to go to the pub at opening time, and got the shakes if he didn't drink, he still drinks now at 85, 1 large glass of wine a day, which is all he's allowed due to heart problems, which he whacks back in 1 gulp to get a buzz on - and yet, he never missed a day of work in his life - but he certainly had a major problem where booze is concerned.

On that note, perhaps we should organise a boxrec piss up, seems like we've got a few like minded chaps here, lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllets's get ready to Crrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumble!

My missus once made me do the Alcoholics Anonymous online test as she thought I drank too much - I scored 39 out of 40 Fortunately I have cut down a lot since those days, but whenever I do go out for a 'quiet drink' or get 'a few cans for the house', I invariably end up slaughtered. Totally relate to being ON whenever drink is involved - for me, there's never been a concept of having a few drinks, it's always been a case of drinking until I physically can't drink anymore or I pass out.

mickey1975 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

TheCobra wrote:
This has just described my exact relationship with alcohol. I can't go out and have a few. If I go out and get on it, then after 3 pints I'm ON it. there is no middle ground, no just having a few, especially with certain mates. Therefore for the most part I just avoid it.

It's not an 'alcoholic' but I would say it's probably a 'problem with alcohol' as a closer to the truth description.

This is my thing, the word Alcoholic is really not very useful, it describes it as if it is a disease, which it isn't, people who have problems with alcohol tend to have problems in other areas too, often obsessive compulsive tendencies for instance - when people think of an alcoholic they think of someone whose life is wrecked, staggering around like a hobo.

My dad has drunk every single day for the last 60 years, he was a raging drunk, used to go to the pub at opening time, and got the shakes if he didn't drink, he still drinks now at 85, 1 large glass of wine a day, which is all he's allowed due to heart problems, which he whacks back in 1 gulp to get a buzz on - and yet, he never missed a day of work in his life - but he certainly had a major problem where booze is concerned.

On that note, perhaps we should organise a boxrec piss up, seems like we've got a few like minded chaps here, lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllets's get ready to Crrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumble!

You are very right. I do absolutely everything to the max. I think Ricky is depressed, I don't think alcohol is Gazza's primary illness, either. But what do I know, drink has cost me three relationships, two houses and virtually everything else I value in my life...

gazza is dieing of a broken heart imo. That wife (who was happy enough with him when she was a single mum on a council estate i notice) wrecked him emotionally. And to have her and the family STILL selling stories about him over 20 years later cant help. Plus he LOVED the game to an unhealthy degree imo. Very tragic story, bless him. I have a friend that lives not far from him who tells me journalists put a bottle of booze on his doorstep every morning and wait in hope of getting a story. how evil is that?

Stevieb8006 wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
This is my thing, the word Alcoholic is really not very useful, it describes it as if it is a disease, which it isn't, people who have problems with alcohol tend to have problems in other areas too, often obsessive compulsive tendencies for instance - when people think of an alcoholic they think of someone whose life is wrecked, staggering around like a hobo.

My dad has drunk every single day for the last 60 years, he was a raging drunk, used to go to the pub at opening time, and got the shakes if he didn't drink, he still drinks now at 85, 1 large glass of wine a day, which is all he's allowed due to heart problems, which he whacks back in 1 gulp to get a buzz on - and yet, he never missed a day of work in his life - but he certainly had a major problem where booze is concerned.

On that note, perhaps we should organise a boxrec piss up, seems like we've got a few like minded chaps here, lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllets's get ready to Crrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumble!

You are very right. I do absolutely everything to the max. I think Ricky is depressed, I don't think alcohol is Gazza's primary illness, either. But what do I know, drink has cost me three relationships, two houses and virtually everything else I value in my life...

gazza is dieing of a broken heart imo. That wife (who was happy enough with him when she was a single mum on a council estate i notice) wrecked him emotionally. And to have her and the family STILL selling stories about him over 20 years later cant help. Plus he LOVED the game to an unhealthy degree imo. Very tragic story, bless him. I have a friend that lives not far from him who tells me journalists put a bottle of booze on his doorstep every morning and wait in hope of getting a story. how evil is that?

I'd imagine Gazza probably wasn't the easiest man to live with, there's two sides to every story. He was always a man who was desperate to be loved and clearly had serious self esteem issues.

If that's true about the press, then that is absolutely disgusting.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Stevieb8006 wrote:

mickey1975 wrote: You are very right. I do absolutely everything to the max. I think Ricky is depressed, I don't think alcohol is Gazza's primary illness, either. But what do I know, drink has cost me three relationships, two houses and virtually everything else I value in my life...

gazza is dieing of a broken heart imo. That wife (who was happy enough with him when she was a single mum on a council estate i notice) wrecked him emotionally. And to have her and the family STILL selling stories about him over 20 years later cant help. Plus he LOVED the game to an unhealthy degree imo. Very tragic story, bless him. I have a friend that lives not far from him who tells me journalists put a bottle of booze on his doorstep every morning and wait in hope of getting a story. how evil is that?

I'd imagine Gazza probably wasn't the easiest man to live with, there's two sides to every story. He was always a man who was desperate to be loved and clearly had serious self esteem issues.

If that's true about the press, then that is absolutely disgusting.

Yeah I suppose so, theres no doubt the poor sods been damaged emotionally. He was one of the first figures in my lifetime that the papers REALLY turned on. When his "daughter" Bianca (who he adopted and took on as his own without question), sells a story about how awful he is whilst posing in a bikini, it still grates slightly..

She should be ashamed of herself, is that the daft bint who appeared on big brother?

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
I'd imagine Gazza probably wasn't the easiest man to live with, there's two sides to every story. He was always a man who was desperate to be loved and clearly had serious self esteem issues.

If that's true about the press, then that is absolutely disgusting.

The sad thing is, it's very believable.