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In the know 85 wrote:Wlad is the biggest cherry picker of all, Tyson as usual is winding him up, getting under his skin and off of his game, and as usual it's working! Don't believe the hype, just read between the lines people ffs!

For all his flaws, he was no cherry picker, other than his brother who didn't he fight?

BitPlayer wrote:

In the know 85 wrote:Wlad is the biggest cherry picker of all, Tyson as usual is winding him up, getting under his skin and off of his game, and as usual it's working! Don't believe the hype, just read between the lines people ffs!

For all his flaws, he was no cherry picker, other than his brother who didn't he fight?

One of the most famous cherry puckers in history, one of the most padded records in history! Doesn't fool people in the know!

In the know 85 wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

In the know 85 wrote:Wlad is the biggest cherry picker of all, Tyson as usual is winding him up, getting under his skin and off of his game, and as usual it's working! Don't believe the hype, just read between the lines people ffs!

For all his flaws, he was no cherry picker, other than his brother who didn't he fight?

One of the most famous cherry puckers in history, one of the most padded records in history! Doesn't fool people in the know!

Great post

I don't see Wlad as a cherrypicker.

A holder and pusher - yes.

Ricky_ wrote:After a career most notable for some of the most blatant ducks i've seen (Price, Ustinov), once again Tyson Fury has decided he doesn't much fancy the job in a rematch with Wladimir Klitchko.

Dont kid yourself that Fury was ever scared of fighting Price. He fought him when he was 18 in his 3rd or 4th senior amateur bout and dropped price who was 24. Price won on points and 6 months later got gold in commonwealth games in melbourne.

Fury was desperate to fight price soon as he went pro but there was little in it for Price. After Price's stock dropped dramatically when Thompson Kod him twice he then looked at Fury as a way back. Fury did drop belts to avoid purse bids, but he also had choice of his next fight being Price or a WBO inter continental fight.

Fury is a rare bear. He'll never give Haye a fight after Haye screwed him over twice. He comes from fighting stock and is genuinley not afraid of anyone, neither will he be intimidated. Will the Wlad rematch come off? I think it will. If it doesnt is it down to fear? No chance. If he didnt fear going into Wlads back yard to fight him why would he fear fighting him in his own back yard after beating him first time.

In the know 85 wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

In the know 85 wrote:Wlad is the biggest cherry picker of all, Tyson as usual is winding him up, getting under his skin and off of his game, and as usual it's working! Don't believe the hype, just read between the lines people ffs!

For all his flaws, he was no cherry picker, other than his brother who didn't he fight?

One of the most famous cherry puckers in history, one of the most padded records in history! Doesn't fool people in the know!

Who, in last 10 years, didnt he fight that he shouldve?

Klitschko’s manager says Tyson Fury tries to find the way to get out of the rematch

http://boxingnews.com.ua/en/news/17231- ... -menedzher

Jesus...just fight the boring ass rematch already so we can all move on with our lives

Wales wrote:Fury is a rare bear. He'll never give Haye a fight after Haye screwed him over twice. He comes from fighting stock and is genuinley not afraid of anyone, neither will he be intimidated.

Do you think that Tyson Fury’s opinion about David Haye’s fight postponements has changed since he became world champion, in the context of his own injuries delaying his bouts against Klitschko multiple times?

Enlightened-One wrote:

Wales wrote:Fury is a rare bear. He'll never give Haye a fight after Haye screwed him over twice. He comes from fighting stock and is genuinley not afraid of anyone, neither will he be intimidated.

Do you think that Tyson Fury’s opinion about David Haye’s fight postponements has changed since he became world champion, in the context of his own injuries delaying his bouts against Klitschko multiple times?

How many times was Fury Klitchko postponed due to Fury?

Probably erased from my memory but I only recall Fury postponing once, in the run up,to the second fight due to (allegedly) sprained ankle.

Klitchko postponed the first fight due to (allegedly) tearing tendon in his ankle.

I think theres more to the Haye postponements than the public know, Tyson lost a year of his career due to Haye. He wont forget that now Haye needs him more than he needs Haye.

I think the other thing is Fury lost pretty much all he'd earned training to fight Haye. Wlad has made a lot more.

Wales wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

Wales wrote:Fury is a rare bear. He'll never give Haye a fight after Haye screwed him over twice. He comes from fighting stock and is genuinley not afraid of anyone, neither will he be intimidated.

Do you think that Tyson Fury’s opinion about David Haye’s fight postponements has changed since he became world champion, in the context of his own injuries delaying his bouts against Klitschko multiple times?

How many times was Fury Klitchko postponed due to Fury?

Probably erased from my memory but I only recall Fury postponing once, in the run up,to the second fight due to (allegedly) sprained ankle.

Klitchko postponed the first fight due to (allegedly) tearing tendon in his ankle.

I think theres more to the Haye postponements than the public know, Tyson lost a year of his career due to Haye. He wont forget that now Haye needs him more than he needs Haye.

The July rematch date was delayed due to an injury to Fury's ankle, he was then briefly suspended by UKAD and then the officially rescheduled 29th October rematch date is likely to fall through because Tyson's team want to renegotiate a previously-agreed contract, with the resulting delays wasting more than a year of Klitschko's career.

It could be argued that Fury's shenanigans with Klitschko are worse than the postponements he himself encountered with Haye.

Dont see that.

In run up to their first fight Klitchko pulled out and postponed, not cancelled, the fight. Postponed from Oct to Nov?

In run up to second Fury posted pic of ankle injury and postponed fight from July to October.

So one postponement apiece.

Haye signed to fight Fury around May agreeing a September bout. A week before he pulled out with a cut sustained sparring . The fight was re-scheduled for Feb but Haye pulled out and cancelled the fight in Nov with a shoulder injury. The process meant Fury lost not only a load of money in training camp fees, but he also dropped his IBF ranking to fight Haye so lost that too.
Add to that Haye was Furys potential ticket into the big time too. His "red panties" fight

So Fury and Wlad are 1-1 with postponements.
Haye is 1-0 with a postponement and 1-0 with a cancellation.

Wales wrote:

In the know 85 wrote:

BitPlayer wrote: For all his flaws, he was no cherry picker, other than his brother who didn't he fight?

One of the most famous cherry puckers in history, one of the most padded records in history! Doesn't fool people in the know!

Who, in last 10 years, didnt he fight that he shouldve?

2 mandatorys in the last 6 years, cuddled povetkin in one of the worst fights I've seen, then lost to fury who he dodged for 4 years, Alex lepai, briant Jennings, pianetta, wach, mormeck, Eddie chambers, none of these are top heavyweights imo. Right now I think fury beats him again, Luis Ortiz stops him, wilder stops him, and a few on the way up also have the beating of him. He won't fight any except fury one more time then I expect him to retire!

In the know 85 wrote:

Wales wrote:

In the know 85 wrote:
One of the most famous cherry puckers in history, one of the most padded records in history! Doesn't fool people in the know!

Who, in last 10 years, didnt he fight that he shouldve?

2 mandatorys in the last 6 years, cuddled povetkin in one of the worst fights I've seen, then lost to fury who he dodged for 4 years, Alex lepai, briant Jennings, pianetta, wach, mormeck, Eddie chambers, none of these are top heavyweights imo. Right now I think fury beats him again, Luis Ortiz stops him, wilder stops him, and a few on the way up also have the beating of him. He won't fight any except fury one more time then I expect him to retire!

Ortiz? He beat no one until after Wlad lost his belt. Wilder too was only just getting into contention. Name someone who actually spent a bit of time at the top who he didn't fight.

Tyson fury, until it was forced, who elsehas had to fight 3 world title eliminator a to get a shot??

In the know 85 wrote: 2 mandatorys in the last 6 years, cuddled povetkin in one of the worst fights I've seen, then lost to fury who he dodged for 4 years, Alex lepai, briant Jennings, pianetta, wach, mormeck, Eddie chambers, none of these are top heavyweights imo. Right now I think fury beats him again, Luis Ortiz stops him, wilder stops him, and a few on the way up also have the beating of him. He won't fight any except fury one more time then I expect him to retire!

Yeah and your big brother could beat him too. Talk is cheap. Who do u think Wlad "ducked"? In fact he fought all the best including many who were previously unbeaten, and despite the US propaganda to the contrary, the Klitschko brothers were the most dominant heavyweights in history in the strongest heavyweight division in history, a time when the division was much bigger and stronger and international in scope than ever before.

In the know 85 wrote:2 mandatorys in the last 6 years...blah... blah... nonsense derogatory cráp about Klitschko... blah... blah... blah...

Five from the last eight men that have faced Wladimir Klitschko were mandatory challengers. I didn’t bother checking anymore stats than that, because it seems you’re simply making up a load of nonsense to bait people to argue with you.

Wales wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:After a career most notable for some of the most blatant ducks i've seen (Price, Ustinov), once again Tyson Fury has decided he doesn't much fancy the job in a rematch with Wladimir Klitchko.

Dont kid yourself that Fury was ever scared of fighting Price. He fought him when he was 18 in his 3rd or 4th senior amateur bout and dropped price who was 24. Price won on points and 6 months later got gold in commonwealth games in melbourne.

Fury was desperate to fight price soon as he went pro but there was little in it for Price. After Price's stock dropped dramatically when Thompson Kod him twice he then looked at Fury as a way back. Fury did drop belts to avoid purse bids, but he also had choice of his next fight being Price or a WBO inter continental fight.

Fury is a rare bear. He'll never give Haye a fight after Haye screwed him over twice. He comes from fighting stock and is genuinley not afraid of anyone, neither will he be intimidated. Will the Wlad rematch come off? I think it will. If it doesnt is it down to fear? No chance. If he didnt fear going into Wlads back yard to fight him why would he fear fighting him in his own back yard after beating him first time.

To be fair, Price's stock shouldn't have dropped due to Thompson testing dirty. The L should go to Thompson and W to Price. At the very least should be a no contest and Thompson forfeit his entire purse.

x2x wrote:

In the know 85 wrote: 2 mandatorys in the last 6 years, cuddled povetkin in one of the worst fights I've seen, then lost to fury who he dodged for 4 years, Alex lepai, briant Jennings, pianetta, wach, mormeck, Eddie chambers, none of these are top heavyweights imo. Right now I think fury beats him again, Luis Ortiz stops him, wilder stops him, and a few on the way up also have the beating of him. He won't fight any except fury one more time then I expect him to retire!

Yeah and your big brother could beat him too. Talk is cheap. Who do u think Wlad "ducked"? In fact he fought all the best including many who were previously unbeaten, and despite the US propaganda to the contrary, the Klitschko brothers were the most dominant heavyweights in history in the strongest heavyweight division in history, a time when the division was much bigger and stronger and international in scope than ever before.

Strongest heavyweight division in history??? Most dominant?? Your a comedian mate! Absolute rubbish you spurt is embarrassing! The klitschko's couldn't have survived in any other era of the division! The 60's 70's and 80's would have chewed them up and shat them out! You are a funny man though il give you that.

In the know 85 wrote:]

Strongest heavyweight division in history??? Most dominant?? Your a comedian mate! Absolute rubbish you spurt is embarrassing! The klitschko's couldn't have survived in any other era of the division! The 60's 70's and 80's would have chewed them up and shat them out! You are a funny man though il give you that.

Your "world champions" of the 60s 70s and 80s were really only US champions.

Badhusker wrote:

Wales wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:After a career most notable for some of the most blatant ducks i've seen (Price, Ustinov), once again Tyson Fury has decided he doesn't much fancy the job in a rematch with Wladimir Klitchko.

Dont kid yourself that Fury was ever scared of fighting Price. He fought him when he was 18 in his 3rd or 4th senior amateur bout and dropped price who was 24. Price won on points and 6 months later got gold in commonwealth games in melbourne.

Fury was desperate to fight price soon as he went pro but there was little in it for Price. After Price's stock dropped dramatically when Thompson Kod him twice he then looked at Fury as a way back. Fury did drop belts to avoid purse bids, but he also had choice of his next fight being Price or a WBO inter continental fight.

Fury is a rare bear. He'll never give Haye a fight after Haye screwed him over twice. He comes from fighting stock and is genuinley not afraid of anyone, neither will he be intimidated. Will the Wlad rematch come off? I think it will. If it doesnt is it down to fear? No chance. If he didnt fear going into Wlads back yard to fight him why would he fear fighting him in his own back yard after beating him first time.

To be fair, Price's stock shouldn't have dropped due to Thompson testing dirty. The L should go to Thompson and W to Price. At the very least should be a no contest and Thompson forfeit his entire purse.

Perhaps you're right, same with Teper testing positive after KOing Price. However, fact of matter is Price stock dropped dramatically after the two Thompson KOs. First one was almost brushed under carpet as maybe a bad night at the office, but second KO , to same guy, showing same vulnerabilities. ...

Then the Teper loss. Does your opponent taking gear make you completely unable to throw a solid jab or defend at all.

x2x wrote:

In the know 85 wrote:]

Strongest heavyweight division in history??? Most dominant?? Your a comedian mate! Absolute rubbish you spurt is embarrassing! The klitschko's couldn't have survived in any other era of the division! The 60's 70's and 80's would have chewed them up and shat them out! You are a funny man though il give you that.

Your "world champions" of the 60s 70s and 80s were really only US champions.

Most of them weren't even 220 pounds, let alone 245, the Klitschko's would have dominated them easely lol. Don't forget that Povetkin is 2 or 3 inches taller as Mike Tyson for example.

In the know 85 wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

In the know 85 wrote:Wlad is the biggest cherry picker of all, Tyson as usual is winding him up, getting under his skin and off of his game, and as usual it's working! Don't believe the hype, just read between the lines people ffs!

For all his flaws, he was no cherry picker, other than his brother who didn't he fight?

One of the most famous cherry puckers in history, one of the most padded records in history! Doesn't fool people in the know!

Amazing what goes on in some minds. The complete 180 to the truth.