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Nile4000 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 20:41

Jacopodb wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 18:03

squiggy wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 17:39

I'm completely with this take on the two movies. (Though I like Taxi Driver and Goodfellas more than Raging Bull.) Rocky is only good in the sense that an eat-some-candy, try-to-finger-your-date movie can be good. But so far as quality film goes, I'm sure I'd take Scorsese's old home movies over everything Stallone has ever done.

Stallone is obviously very limited: I've heard that Pacino was offered the role in First Blood/Rambo, declined, then it was given to Stallone. That made pretty much Sly's fortune. Now "Rambo" was honest entertainment. Pure 70's-solid-stuff. Like Deliverance, for example... stuff new generations have guiltily forgot.

I graduated from a film-school (technically a Bachelor of Arts, with a branch in "movie-and-TV-directing"...), and a professor had us watching Taxi Driver: that's how important it can be, and, as far as I'm concerned, it's objectively Scorsese's best movie, as well as the most defining, of course (with all due respect for the rest).
I enjoyed very much Goodfellas, of course, how could any adult human being not do?

Don't see Al doing the job in Rambo that Stallone did. He was the perfect fit.

oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 20:49

Nile4000 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 20:48

oogiebe wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 20:43
Seriously, it was an action hero movie not a dramatic role.

Understood, but still there are certain things Pacino doesn't need to be un.

I was agreeing with you.

Jacopodb wrote: ↑30 Dec 2018, 06:42

Nile4000 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 20:41

Jacopodb wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 18:03

Stallone is obviously very limited: I've heard that Pacino was offered the role in First Blood/Rambo, declined, then it was given to Stallone. That made pretty much Sly's fortune. Now "Rambo" was honest entertainment. Pure 70's-solid-stuff. Like Deliverance, for example... stuff new generations have guiltily forgot.

I graduated from a film-school (technically a Bachelor of Arts, with a branch in "movie-and-TV-directing"...), and a professor had us watching Taxi Driver: that's how important it can be, and, as far as I'm concerned, it's objectively Scorsese's best movie, as well as the most defining, of course (with all due respect for the rest).
I enjoyed very much Goodfellas, of course, how could any adult human being not do?

Don't see Al doing the job in Rambo that Stallone did. He was the perfect fit.

I feel that the only issue with Al Pacino playing Rambo would've been merely physical: Pacino' s a rather small guy, while any army's special forces are made by quite big guys, very muscular and fit.

Stallone rendered fairly-enough the character's emotional climax and final catharsis.

Nick Nolte also could've done great as Rambo, for example...

Nile4000 wrote: ↑30 Dec 2018, 11:26

Jacopodb wrote: ↑30 Dec 2018, 06:42

Nile4000 wrote: ↑29 Dec 2018, 20:41
Don't see Al doing the job in Rambo that Stallone did. He was the perfect fit.

I feel that the only issue with Al Pacino playing Rambo would've been merely physical: Pacino' s a rather small guy, while any army's special forces are made by quite big guys, very muscular and fit.

Stallone rendered fairly-enough the character's emotional climax and final catharsis.

Nick Nolte also could've done great as Rambo, for example...

As long as he's sober, lol. Maybe Ray Liotta as well.