Boxing Is Slowly Dying Ya'll

[ElJefe]

Boxing is absolutely fine. It's doing well in the UK, Central/Eastern Europe and Asia. The idea that boxing as a whole is dying because it struggles in America is part of the problem. America seems to think that it has a divine right to be at the centre of everything. The sport in the U.S has sat on it's arse and served up sh!te for years and still expects to do well. Sooner or later the fans stop forking out their money. Add that to the fact that American promoters have done nothing to keep up with the rise of the UFC in terms of getting main stream exposure and publicity for their fighters and events and it's not surprising to see that the general public aren't aware of this generation of boxers.

Whether you like MMA or not, the UFC are brilliant when it comes to promotion, they have everyone believing that just about every fighter on their roster are these incredible must-watched beasts, despite the fact that very few of them can string together more than 3 title defences. If American promoters pulled their fingers from out of their arses and started doing their job, as in making good fights and promoting them properly, boxing would fare a lot better than it does.

[littlepug]

is the demise in USA due to a poor amateur system ? im just guessing because i dont know much about the amateur scene over there but just seems theyve gone from churning out loads of top class amateurs that went on to pro success to now not really producing anything, is it lack of funding ? i know that as soon as the uk amateurs got well funded it just bred success

[Tony1244]

Boxing may be doing great worldwide but that's not much consolation to us Americans as there is less and less boxing here.

Do-gooders have been trying to find a way to kill boxing in America for as long as I can remember and they are slowly succeeding.
Boxing will never be illegal here but it is on its way to being KO'd by regulations.

Here's the latest thing I've read on the do-gooders war on boxing:http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/new-rul ... ork-352292
If that gets enforced boxing in the state of New York is over.

Americans are fool of crap. And I'm American. We're hypocrites. We hurt boxing because of "safety," while simultaneously promote American football and UFC to the enth degree, because those sports are so safe, right?

It is fascinating to compare American boxing in say 1970 to now, and British boxing from then till now. They went in reverse directions. What's happened in Eastern Europe is easier to explain with the fall of The Iron Curtain. Got to tip my hat to the Brits, they have something going on there.

[nfc90210]

Boxing may be doing great worldwide but that's not much consolation to us Americans as there is less and less boxing here.

Do-gooders have been trying to find a way to kill boxing in America for as long as I can remember and they are slowly succeeding.
Boxing will never be illegal here but it is on its way to being KO'd by regulations.

Here's the latest thing I've read on the do-gooders war on boxing:http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/new-rul ... ork-352292
If that gets enforced boxing in the state of New York is over.

Americans are fool of crap. And I'm American. We're hypocrites. We hurt boxing because of "safety," while simultaneously promote American football and UFC to the enth degree, because those sports are so safe, right?...

The rules that the boxing promoters are complaining about apply to MMA as well. So, it's really not a case of New York favouring MMA over boxing.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-mma-law ... 1472690542

[Luckybattles]

is the demise in USA due to a poor amateur system ? im just guessing because i dont know much about the amateur scene over there but just seems theyve gone from churning out loads of top class amateurs that went on to pro success to now not really producing anything, is it lack of funding ? i know that as soon as the uk amateurs got well funded it just bred success

Its also become a very top heavy sport where all the money goes to the top few guys in the world. It's not worth spending your life amassing a 13-0 record to make $2500 for a fight. Also, the sport has become very unforgiving. If you lose one or two fights these days you are basically an opponent and your pay will suffer.

[Impractical Poster]

I don't think it's dying. But, I don't think it's going to be as main stream, at least in the states, as it has been in the next 10 years.

[Kalan]

I don't see Boxing dying ever... It will be around a million years from now... Boxing is going stronger than I’ve ever seen it in my lifetime.. May-Pac generated over an unbelievable 600 million in revenue.. That was the biggest take in Fistic History by far and a scary number -- even though it was a weak contest from an entertainment standpoint... That’s the only bad thing. But a lot of fabulous fight are waiting for some matchmakers and promoters to simply make them.

The Heavyweight Division is loaded... Anthony Joshua, Luis Oritz, Tyson Fury, David Haye, Alexander Povetkin, Deontay Wilder, and Joseph Parker are 6 Heavyweights who represent 15 possible blockbuster matchups... Some of these Heavyweight fights are going to be made hopefully.

The Welterweight Division is unbelievably loaded... Errol Spence, Keith Thurman, Kell Brook, Shawn Porter, Danny Garcia, Tim Bradley, Jesse Vargas, and Amir Khan are 7 Welterweights representing 21 possible matchups. Thurman and Porter already had one extremely well viewed, received, and fought fight... A rematch is possible... but all these other Welterweight fights could also possibly be made.

The Middleweight Division has Gennady Golovkin, Billy Joe Saunders, Daniel Jacobs, Chris Eubank, Rob Brant, and Canelo Alvarez... That represents 15 possible great Middleweight matchups that could be made. One cross division matchup with Gennady Golovkin and Kell Brook already sold out every seat in the arena in 11 minutes – but these other Middleweight matchups could possibly be made too.

There are other hot divisions as well.. The only problem Boxing has is tremendous fighters are usually fighting weak fighters who don't present the most competitive matchups.. The greatest matchups are going begging because nobody wants a loss on their record..

[Tony1244]

is the demise in USA due to a poor amateur system ? im just guessing because i dont know much about the amateur scene over there but just seems theyve gone from churning out loads of top class amateurs that went on to pro success to now not really producing anything, is it lack of funding ? i know that as soon as the uk amateurs got well funded it just bred success

Its also become a very top heavy sport where all the money goes to the top few guys in the world. It's not worth spending your life amassing a 13-0 record to make $2500 for a fight. Also, the sport has become very unforgiving. If you lose one or two fights these days you are basically an opponent and your pay will suffer.

It's a strange sport where you can be 27-0 and ranked #173 in your division.

[APerno]

Its always started with the elite amatuers all the way to the days of Joe Louis! The amatuer program for the american hasn't been relevant for many

years now UFC will eventually catch up with boxing we have no outstanding amatuers anymore.

In a sport where it is a common tactic to lay on your back and wrap your legs around your opponent like a bitch; that sport will never replace prize fighting!

[RScarf1]

10 years ago, young people in Florida knew of Jermain Taylor when he was middleweight champ. It is probably different now. Most boxing gyms are also MMA gyms. They had to become both or they would not survive, so they have at least one ring and one cage. Boxing magazines are almost nonexistent, but there are a few MMA magazines on the racks. To buy The Ring in Hollywood, FL, it is only sold at one very small news stand shop. Hard Rock in Hollywood, FL has not had boxing shows lately and Don King rarely has shows here anymore even though his headquarters is here. Shows are usually at much smaller venues. Most of the fights are either established contenders or up and comers fighting guys who have no chance of winning, so knockouts within the first three rounds are common. Not many fights go the distance. Attendance at the shows depends on location and whether the boxers have many local fans who will attend. It is better lately in Florida, but not compared to 10 years ago when there were more shows. World title fights happen only once or twice a year in South Florida.

[greenhornet]

contact sports in general are dying. boxing is already on life support in the states. football and hockey are basically eradicating physical contact from their sports.

[jewboypgh]

The Olympic program in the U.S. is a damn disgrace but locally in Pittsburgh, the amateur and pro scene is alive and well. I need to get to more amateur shows. I get to more pro shows now since they do them in town. This was on the front page of ther Sunday paper.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/othe ... 1607290002

[Lennox]

Yeah. It is! I wrote (email) to the Mets Sports writer New York Post about 4 or 5 weeks ago a "personal" and I am pushing it MY SPORT. He wrote back..addressing me by my first name -John- and he said how he missed the days when Boxing was every ounce as popular as baseball (his exact words).
BoxRec truly DON'T HELP when they elevate the ~IBO~ with equality to the WBC WBA IBF WBO. Any of YOU here who agree the -IBO- belongs you are in left field. (Greenhorns all of you!)

IBO is the best organisation of them all.

[Tanzio]

I am the half glass full type, but one bar in a city of 2 million carrying 3G v Brook? Ridiculous.