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Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 11:16
by Switch hitter
Horse wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Same complaints as last month but not much can be done since August is a barren month for boxing. Frampton should be number 1 and the overrated Khan is too high etc...
Khan is underrated.
He's had a great career.
Form.......
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 11:37
by Horse
LancashireLoyal wrote:yeh i think i would have frampton top now with fury dropping to 2nd,its close but i think framptons run of late just beats furys win.not much in it though.
No, there's not much in it.
If Frampton wins the Santa Cruz rematch before Fury wins the Wladimir rematch then he'll probably go top.
LancashireLoyal wrote:still looking at mcdonnell above khan and brook,maybe his kameda wins arent quite enough.one more big win this year and hes certainly got to go above them.solid list though

A win over Rau'shee Warren might be enough for him to overtake those fighters later this year.
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 11:41
by Horse
DannyMCR wrote:Laughable
No.
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 12:34
by ThereByTheGrace
Burns higher than crolla? Burns won a European world title against a nobody and has lost more in the last 2 years than the top 10 put together!
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 12:58
by Switch hitter
Stuarty30 wrote:Horse wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Same complaints as last month but not much can be done since August is a barren month for boxing. Frampton should be number 1 and the overrated Khan is too high etc...
Khan is underrated.
He's had a great career.
Very overrated. He's not held any version of a world title in 5 years. Hasn't won a fight in well over a year and even then that was a struggle against a limited Chris Algieri. He's a good fighter and could've been a lot better but he's too high as usual.
If he does comeback and manages to beat Danny Garcia like he said he's going to do then perhaps he'd be worthy of his lofty position on the list.
Horse just told me it goes on form ..... which makes him look a bit silly
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 13:02
by Horse
Switch hitter wrote:Groves and Jnr too high ...... but not a bad list overall
No, it's not bad. It's very, very good.
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 13:07
by Stuarty
Horse wrote:Switch hitter wrote:Groves and Jnr too high ...... but not a bad list overall
No, it's not bad. It's very, very good.
Even if you do say so yourself......
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 13:08
by Stuarty
Switch hitter wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Horse wrote:Khan is underrated.
He's had a great career.
Very overrated. He's not held any version of a world title in 5 years. Hasn't won a fight in well over a year and even then that was a struggle against a limited Chris Algieri. He's a good fighter and could've been a lot better but he's too high as usual.
If he does comeback and manages to beat Danny Garcia like he said he's going to do then perhaps he'd be worthy of his lofty position on the list.
Horse just told me it goes on form ..... which makes him look a bit silly
Form

It clearly goes on who his favourites are! Khan hasn't won in well over a year and was brutally KOd last time he fought! Great form

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 13:12
by Switch hitter
Stuarty30 wrote:Switch hitter wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:
Very overrated. He's not held any version of a world title in 5 years. Hasn't won a fight in well over a year and even then that was a struggle against a limited Chris Algieri. He's a good fighter and could've been a lot better but he's too high as usual.
If he does comeback and manages to beat Danny Garcia like he said he's going to do then perhaps he'd be worthy of his lofty position on the list.
Horse just told me it goes on form ..... which makes him look a bit silly
Form

It clearly goes on who his favourites are! Khan hasn't won in well over a year and was brutally KOd last time he fought! Great form

Shocking isn't it......
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 13:19
by Horse
Stuarty30 wrote:Very overrated. He's not held any version of a world title in 5 years. Hasn't won a fight in well over a year and even then that was a struggle against a limited Chris Algieri. He's a good fighter and could've been a lot better but he's too high as usual.
If he does comeback and manages to beat Danny Garcia like he said he's going to do then perhaps he'd be worthy of his lofty position on the list.
Khan get's to maintain his high ranking easier than most because of his very good overall record.
Khan's recent form is not the best, but he still has wins over Alexander and Algieri in the last two years.
Which is better than the entire records of about half the fighters on this list.
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 13:22
by Horse
Switch hitter wrote:Form.......
His form isn't even that bad.
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 13:24
by Horse
ThereByTheGrace wrote:Burns higher than crolla? Burns won a European world title against a nobody and has lost more in the last 2 years than the top 10 put together!
No, he hasn't.
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 13:52
by Stuarty
Horse wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Very overrated. He's not held any version of a world title in 5 years. Hasn't won a fight in well over a year and even then that was a struggle against a limited Chris Algieri. He's a good fighter and could've been a lot better but he's too high as usual.
If he does comeback and manages to beat Danny Garcia like he said he's going to do then perhaps he'd be worthy of his lofty position on the list.
Khan get's to maintain his high ranking easier than most because of his very good overall record.
Khan's recent form is not the best, but he still has wins over Alexander and Algieri in the last two years.
Which is better than the entire records of about half the fighters on this list.
Two wins over a past it Alexander and a mediocre Algieri in two years doesn't merit such a high position but we'll have to agree to disagree because I know you won't be changing your mind. His last win over a year ago against Algieri was not a good performance either. Does that not figure in to your thinking when doing the rankings? He looked awful against a very limited opponent.
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 14:02
by Switch hitter
Stuarty30 wrote:Horse wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Very overrated. He's not held any version of a world title in 5 years. Hasn't won a fight in well over a year and even then that was a struggle against a limited Chris Algieri. He's a good fighter and could've been a lot better but he's too high as usual.
If he does comeback and manages to beat Danny Garcia like he said he's going to do then perhaps he'd be worthy of his lofty position on the list.
Khan get's to maintain his high ranking easier than most because of his very good overall record.
Khan's recent form is not the best, but he still has wins over Alexander and Algieri in the last two years.
Which is better than the entire records of about half the fighters on this list.
Two wins over a past it Alexander and a mediocre Algieri in two years doesn't merit such a high position but we'll have to agree to disagree because I know you won't be changing your mind. His last win over a year ago against Algieri was not a good performance either. Does that not figure in to your thinking when doing the rankings? He looked awful against a very limited opponent.[/quote
What he said..... bang on
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 14:30
by Horse
Switch hitter wrote:Horse just told me it goes on form ..... which makes him look a bit silly

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 14:30
by Horse
Switch hitter wrote:Shocking isn't it......

Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 14:37
by crusader
I would have Khan in the lower top 15
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 01 Sep 2016, 14:44
by Horse
crusader wrote:I would have Khan in the lower top 15
You'd have him below fighters like Bellew, Saunders & Flanagan?
That seems way too low.
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 02:45
by Switch hitter
Horse wrote:Switch hitter wrote:Shocking isn't it......


Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 03:07
by Horse
Switch hitter wrote: 
Shocking!
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 04:01
by sweetscience
khan might well be shot & finished
but his average wins are still a lot better than the wins of the people you think should be above him
+ he did get KOd bad... but against Boxrec #1 P4P fighter (last time I looked)... so how can you hold that against him
when Brook gets whalloped by GGG we aren't going to call him for to drop below number 15.... 2/3 very poor wins & a beatdown ???
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 04:22
by Tangerine
Thats the problem,when a top 10 fighter gets beaten its too easy to drop them right out of the picture based on that one defeat,when you take this into conparison withhow a fighter got there in the first place its not balanced.Example,Wladimir was in most peoples top 5 or at least top ten now hes had one defeat hes pretty muchout of ppls lists alltogether.
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 05:10
by Manchester Massive
I think we need someone else to start doing these lists. Horse's credibility shot now, won't listen to reason re: Groves, Murray lets have a more knowledgeable poster compiling the list and taking note of input and feedback
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 05:30
by Horse
Manchester Massive wrote:I think we need someone else to start doing these lists. Horse's credibility shot now, won't listen to reason re: Groves, Murray lets have a more knowledgeable poster compiling the list and taking note of input and feedback
Pathetic post.
This forum has never been worse.
Re: British Top 30 P4P September 2016
Posted: 02 Sep 2016, 05:35
by Horse
sweetscience wrote:khan might well be shot & finished
but his average wins are still a lot better than the wins of the people you think should be above him
+ he did get KOd bad... but against Boxrec #1 P4P fighter (last time I looked)... so how can you hold that against him
when Brook gets whalloped by GGG we aren't going to call him for to drop below number 15.... 2/3 very poor wins & a beatdown ???
