Fair play to brook

[dalcumly]

I don't get it. Brook was thrashed, as predicted by almost every media pundit and boxing fan on here and elsewhere. Everyone knew it would happen, the only question was -what round.
But if I had been Brook I'd have taken the fight as well for the money he's earned. But, let's not make Brook's performance into something it wasn't.
He was destroyed.

[TheLeprechaun]

I don't get it. Brook was thrashed, as predicted by almost every media pundit and boxing fan on here and elsewhere. Everyone knew it would happen, the only question was -what round.
But if I had been Brook I'd have taken the fight as well for the money he's earned. But, let's not make Brook's performance into something it wasn't.
He was destroyed.

Agreed.

He got absolutely mullered.

However, he put up a fairly good showing when you take everything into account. He was relaxed at times and was really giving it a go. When he was hurt he was willing to be taken out. Triple G was just extremely vicious whenever he went to work with Brook on the ropes.

I love seeing fights where a very good fighter is outgunned and has to pull out everything he has. Brook did that and gave a huge effort. Have to respect him for that.

What he did show was that you need power to deter Triple G or you will get walked down and completely destroyed. Brook didn't have enough power. You'd need someone like McClellan.

[greg]

...Brook was supposed to be competitive for a couple of rounds and that's what he was, no more and no less...props to him for stepping up and fighting the best...

[Ian1973]

The crap boxers talk though: Brook "I was just settling into the fight".

No mate after round three you were finding it tougher and tougher and tougher. That's coming apart not settling in.

[ShadrachSimmo]

...Brook was supposed to be competitive for a couple of rounds and that's what he was, no more and no less...props to him for stepping up and fighting the best...

Exactly this.

Can't doubt his courage but he's no middleweight. Hopefully we don't get anymore of these fighters jumping up 2 weights because it's getting a bit predictable.

[BigDoofus]

I don't get it. Brook was thrashed, as predicted by almost every media pundit and boxing fan on here and elsewhere. Everyone knew it would happen, the only question was -what round.
But if I had been Brook I'd have taken the fight as well for the money he's earned. But, let's not make Brook's performance into something it wasn't.
He was destroyed.

There was only going to be one winner, but it was a fairly level fight and Brook was never off his feet against the world's biggest puncher.

[Autobarn]

Pathetic fight

Cashed out

Brook fought amazing thought

I agree. It was the cop out I expected. Hearn's need to fill ppv dates with Sky is contemptible.

What next, Bellew vs a bear?

Yes it was a stupid matchup, made for all the wrong reasons. Because the right people won't fight each other (Brook v Khan, Golovkin v Alvarez). Because Hearn had to save face after being unable to make Eubank Jr v Golovkin. Because Brook wanted more money and to fight at home and eat more in preparation.

Brook's big fight was improvised not planned.

Sounds like Brook boxed well, but was anyone prepared for the reality of taking shots from a KO punching middleweight?

[Autobarn]

...Brook was supposed to be competitive for a couple of rounds and that's what he was, no more and no less...props to him for stepping up and fighting the best...

Exactly this.

Can't doubt his courage but he's no middleweight. Hopefully we don't get anymore of these fighters jumping up 2 weights because it's getting a bit predictable.

Yeah twice should be enough.

If boxing was sane it'd have been Brook v Khan and Golovkin v Alvarez.

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I hope Eubank Jr steps up. I actually don't rate Eubank THAT highly but Brook had some success with his uppercuts which are a bit of a trademark of Eubank so that could make the fight interesting.

Brook was fighting Golovkin because Eubank Jr didn't want to step up in the first place.

I can't see him changing his mind now.

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I don't get it. Brook was thrashed, as predicted by almost every media pundit and boxing fan on here and elsewhere. Everyone knew it would happen, the only question was -what round.
But if I had been Brook I'd have taken the fight as well for the money he's earned. But, let's not make Brook's performance into something it wasn't.
He was destroyed.

Sadly, you are correct.

[Cyclops]

I think what made the fight last night was Brook being able to land proper punches on GGG, a decent uppercut in particular comes to mind although I will have to re-watch it, and for long periods actually make a fight of it and even win rounds despite being enormously outgunned.

I had no interest in Khan Canelo at the time and didn't watch it until a couple of nights ago: it looked like a wasp bouncing around a buffalo, a complete joke. This was nothing like that. Even though Brook's demise was inevitable, I thought he fought bravely and showed toughness: GGG was not puling that bodyshot and the the headshot that almost done him in the first. He was unloading on him prior to the disappointing (but understandable) stoppage and Brook was still there. He never went down and I think that shows Brook is very tough and when in a weightclass more suited to him should give us some good fights.

Now for the realism:

He still got absolutely smashed. GGG had no respect for his power, and I think probably decided to not even bother boxing and just go wild an have a fight. He was throwing bombs that missed wildly and stepping in too much on his punches so they didn't land clean. He took pointless shots just covering up. He knew he was going to take Brook out and so he never even really tried to look good. He knows that nobody is going to fight him if he is just annihilating guys so Brook is the perfect opponent to look "vulerable" against: eat a load of shots, don't show much skills, don't show any defence, you're still going to get a KO and plenty of money, and maybe the other fornicating useless bastards in the division will think you're beatable and sign to fight you.

It also shows the likes of Canelo, Eubank and Saunders up as complete pussies: everybody knows who GGG is now, but every casual across the land will be thinking he looks beatable. They'll be scratching their heads, seeing little Kell put up such a plucky effort, wondering why fat Billy Joe and the weirdo Eubanks have shat it from this man.

Brilliant for GGG and brilliant for us, as I think we'll be seeing him on these shores again. We may even come to accept him as an honorary Brit. GGG at the 02! Joshua and GGG double headers! AJ vs Haye with GGG vs Degale as chief support in front of 80,000 at Wembley! Imagine the PPV's! Eddie would be up to his eyeballs in Nandos, Peruvian gak and orange birds from Essex for about 10 years.

[sharpei_louis]

I don't get why GGG gets so much kudos for taking punches.
Anyone else has a terrible defence when they get tagged so cleanly. GGG gets props for 'deciding to neglect his defence and have a war'... what a load of nonsense. Almost everyone he's fought has found him hit-able. I think if he had Kell's balls he'd step to SMW and would probably find himself struggling as he couldn't rely on his power as much.
Also it was pretty laughable that he said he never felt Brook's shots - he didn't look unruffled himself, he took some punishment and at times looked a little wild and ragged to me, not the machine we've come to know. I'd be very interested to see someone like Callum Smith, a massive SMW, in against Golovkin which is a similar ask - or less - in terms of the weight Brook put on.
Obviously GGG's power was the deciding factor, and his aggression in cutting the ring off. But I think he's more beatable now than I did yesterday.

[Cyclops]

I don't get why GGG gets so much kudos for taking punches.
Anyone else has a terrible defence when they get tagged so cleanly. GGG gets props for 'deciding to neglect his defence and have a war'... what a load of nonsense. Almost everyone he's fought has found him hit-able. I think if he had Kell's balls he'd step to SMW and would probably find himself struggling as he couldn't rely on his power as much.
Also it was pretty laughable that he said he never felt Brook's shots - he didn't look unruffled himself, he took some punishment and at times looked a little wild and ragged to me, not the machine we've come to know. I'd be very interested to see someone like Callum Smith, a massive SMW, in against Golovkin which is a similar ask - or less - in terms of the weight Brook put on.
Obviously GGG's power was the deciding factor, and his aggression in cutting the ring off. But I think he's more beatable now than I did yesterday.

Exactly.

[Crease]

Indeed, the British media fo have an swful tendency of overpraising their fighters.

Already i have heard phrases like "brave display" & "showef great courage" etc.....

The fact is Brook was going to recieve serious damage from GGG had the fight continued.

Sure Brook looked flashy at moments, but just like a cheap firework, he burned out quickly.....

[Ian1973]

I don't get why GGG gets so much kudos for taking punches.
Anyone else has a terrible defence when they get tagged so cleanly. GGG gets props for 'deciding to neglect his defence and have a war'... what a load of nonsense. Almost everyone he's fought has found him hit-able. I think if he had Kell's balls he'd step to SMW and would probably find himself struggling as he couldn't rely on his power as much.
Also it was pretty laughable that he said he never felt Brook's shots - he didn't look unruffled himself, he took some punishment and at times looked a little wild and ragged to me, not the machine we've come to know. I'd be very interested to see someone like Callum Smith, a massive SMW, in against Golovkin which is a similar ask - or less - in terms of the weight Brook put on.
Obviously GGG's power was the deciding factor, and his aggression in cutting the ring off. But I think he's more beatable now than I did yesterday.

GGG didn't respect Brooks power. If you watch his fight against Lemieux he did respect his opponents power which is why he controlled the distance early on and didn't let Lemieux land on him. He boxed beautifully that night. Golovkin didn't do that yesterday he barely bothered "boxing" at all because he knew Brook couldn't hurt him despite what Brook says.

Kell Brook has very good upper body movement and though GGG landed on him he didn't find it easy to land flush even in that last round because Brook was quick, slippery and difficult. The bigger the opponent the easier it is for Golovkin to land flush. There's landing and there's landing how you want, where you want.

Similarly to Khan vs Canelo, Brooks best moments were always going to be very early on but there was no chance of that success lasting.

[RoyRJ]

I think Brook fought well, the problem is that everybody didn't punch Triple G in the body or try to make him lost stamina.
If you fight GGG the way Terence Crawford fought Postol, maybe someone can win by POINTS.

Triple G does not move his head, it's unbelievable, he just keep going forward to trap and punch like a mule. Only a master in footwork could stop this man. Keep moving until the bell rings.

Until then, no one now has the ability to stop GGG.

[sharpei_louis]

I get the impression that some people just can't fault Golovkin no matter what.

I saw for my own eyes that on a few occasions he was aggressively cutting the ring off, letting his hands go, then gets tagged with a check hook or short shot and then takes steps backwards and covers up, Brook coming forwards and getting shots of his own off.
That's not a blatant disrespect for your opponent's power, standing in the pocket and firing off whether you take shots or not - that's being tagged and feeling it in a back-and-forth fight.
Yeah, overall he may have thought Brook couldn't KO him, and probably rightly, but I believe/agree with Brook when he says he though GGG was buzzed by him and affected. He was marked up and looked uncomfortable to me. I think his extreme pace at the start of the third was a direct result of having been hurt in the second and probably increased his urgency to get the likely KO of his own.
It's subjective of course, a matter of opinion, but he didn't just walk through Brook's shots like people are suggesting. They exchanged, GGG's shots were heavier, Brook got injured and then GGG got on top. Through the second and third, aside from the eye socket, I genuinely felt that they both felt each other's shots when they landed.
I don't think GGG wilfully dismissed Brook's punches at all as you're making out, and I'm not giving him the credit you are as if he decided to take those shots as I don't think he did.

[Cyclops]

I get the impression that some people just can't fault Golovkin no matter what.

I saw for my own eyes that on a few occasions he was aggressively cutting the ring off, letting his hands go, then gets tagged with a check hook or short shot and then takes steps backwards and covers up, Brook coming forwards and getting shots of his own off.
That's not a blatant disrespect for your opponent's power, standing in the pocket and firing off whether you take shots or not - that's being tagged and feeling it in a back-and-forth fight.
Yeah, overall he may have thought Brook couldn't KO him, and probably rightly, but I believe/agree with Brook when he says he though GGG was buzzed by him and affected. He was marked up and looked uncomfortable to me. I think his extreme pace at the start of the third was a direct result of having been hurt in the second and probably increased his urgency to get the likely KO of his own.
It's subjective of course, a matter of opinion, but he didn't just walk through Brook's shots like people are suggesting. They exchanged, GGG's shots were heavier, Brook got injured and then GGG got on top. Through the second and third, aside from the eye socket, I genuinely felt that they both felt each other's shots when they landed.
I don't think GGG wilfully dismissed Brook's punches at all as you're making out, and I'm not giving him the credit you are as if he decided to take those shots as I don't think he did.

Well if you are right then perhaps all the fighters who have been ducking him for years will suddenly find their pens.

They're probably down the back of the sofa, along with their bollocks.

[sharpei_louis]

I hear this a lot, and by asking this question please don't think I'm trying to be inflammatory, but...
Who is ducking him?

[SteveO]

If it transpires that he had a genuine injury then I will fully forgive Brendan, but if Broom ends up fighting the Canelo/Smith (I'm leaning more towards Smith by the day) winner in 4 months I will remain dubious.

He has a broken eye socket that requires surgery.

[keirw]

I hear this a lot, and by asking this question please don't think I'm trying to be inflammatory, but...
Who is ducking him?

I don't like to accuse boxers of ducking.

But, Canelo dropped his belt rather than face him, Saunders priced himself out of fighting him, Jacobs talks about him a great deal without making any effort to share a ring with him and Eubank Jr's team appear to have sabotaged their own negotiations with him.

It does seem that people are avoiding him.

[sharpei_louis]

It sounds as if he's struggling as much for depth at MW to me, I mean Canelo has never been a middleweight despite taking Cotto's strap, Jacobs and Saunders are relatively new on the scene and Eubank Jnr is only just emerging above British level.
Where's the actual quality opposition he hasn't managed to fight? It wasn't so long ago there was a pool of talent in which case it would hold some water, but I think aside from the Canelo fight maybe he should have broadened his horizons and tried to get big fights outside of MW?

[Cyclops]

I hear this a lot, and by asking this question please don't think I'm trying to be inflammatory, but...
Who is ducking him?

I don't like to accuse boxers of ducking.

But, Canelo dropped his belt rather than face him, Saunders priced himself out of fighting him, Jacobs talks about him a great deal without making any effort to share a ring with him and Eubank Jr's team appear to have sabotaged their own negotiations with him.

It does seem that people are avoiding him.

I tend to look more kindly on Eubank Jnr than most, who I genuinely think would have fought him but was scuppered by his Dad, but Saunders is absolutely on record as saying he wants no part of GGG and that he would lose to him (despite all his recent posturing and outright lies about how of course he would fight Golovkin) and Canelo's avoidance of GGG is he most obvious pathetic high profile duck I can remember in a long time. At least Floyd made Manny look kinda bad when he pulled the drug testing stuff and team Manny started going on about his fear of needles etc. There is no reason for Canelo not to fight other than he doesn't want to lose. That's ducking.

Cotto didn't want any part of him either. Don't forget these guys were mandated to face him but weaseled out of it. If he is as overrated as some people seem to think he is, then they are all going to feel pretty stupid when he finally gets scalped by somebody. If last night was his actual level, then Froch should come out of retirement because he'd smash him to bits.

But he's better than last night would suggest. A lot better. Time will tell.

[Boxerbeetle]

What next, Bellew vs a bear?

hope so. I'd pay for it.

There are very few fights these days that I would actually deem PPV-worthy. Bellew vs a bear would be one of those fights. Eddie, get it done!

[MightyWarrior]

Well on the positive side, after facing that type of overwhelming pressure last night, any fight from now on is gonna seem a walk in the park for Kell.