Re: I am surprised no Rb R for Canelo-Smith
Posted: 18 Sep 2016, 12:21
I would have done a rbr if I was at home.
Are you that dumb or just pretending ? Canelo is a clear A side, so an offer is supposed to come from them. They never negotiated with Ward, because you don't negotiate with somebody like Ward unless you have to, and they didn't need Ward at the time he suddenly became interested.Enlightened-One wrote:Oscar De La Hoya confirmed Canelo’s claims and Tom Loeffler corroborated the fact that there have been contract negotiations with GBP. The K2 chief was reluctant to go into specifics, but he did confirm that the 160lbs weight wasn’t an issue, but it seems that there is a sticking point that awaits a decision by Canelo and his promoter.gilgamesh wrote:Sounds like a crock of sh*tLancenix wrote:Canelo claimed after the fight that his team offered GGG 3X more money than they did in the first negotiation but GGG turned in down. Of course no one knows what 3 X of what the initial offer was.
Nobody knows the specific terms of the contract, so there’s no point in jumping to all sorts of derogatory conclusions without possessing all the facts.
The interesting thing is… have K2 ever tried to make the fight, I mean, have they ever initiated contract negotiations with some of their big name rivals?
People are assuming it’s up to Canelo, but why? K2 never tried to make an effort to negotiate a fight with Ward, but it’s Andre that receives the widespread criticism. K2 never tried to initiate contract negotiations for a fight with Canelo, but somehow the Mexican receives the criticism. Yet K2 feel compelled to make an offer to Billy Joe Saunders...
Because Saunders has the belt Golovkin wants. Surely you get that?Enlightened-One wrote:Oscar De La Hoya confirmed Canelo’s claims and Tom Loeffler corroborated the fact that there have been contract negotiations with GBP. The K2 chief was reluctant to go into specifics, but he did confirm that the 160lbs weight wasn’t an issue, but it seems that there is a sticking point that awaits a decision by Canelo and his promoter.gilgamesh wrote:Sounds like a crock of sh*tLancenix wrote:Canelo claimed after the fight that his team offered GGG 3X more money than they did in the first negotiation but GGG turned in down. Of course no one knows what 3 X of what the initial offer was.
Nobody knows the specific terms of the contract, so there’s no point in jumping to all sorts of derogatory conclusions without possessing all the facts.
The interesting thing is… have K2 ever tried to make the fight, I mean, have they ever initiated contract negotiations with some of their big name rivals?
People are assuming it’s up to Canelo, but why? K2 never tried to make an effort to negotiate a fight with Ward, but it’s Andre that receives the widespread criticism. K2 never tried to initiate contract negotiations for a fight with Canelo, but somehow the Mexican receives the criticism. Yet K2 feel compelled to make an offer to Billy Joe Saunders...
And your point is?samwbr wrote:Because Saunders has the belt Golovkin wants. Surely you get that?
Perhaps I’m playing dumb. Is there a formal hard-and-fast cast-in-stone rule whereby the A-side must always initiate contract offers? Has the reverse situation never happened throughout the entire course of history?boxing_rocks wrote:Are you that dumb or just pretending ? Canelo is a clear A side, so an offer is supposed to come from them.
So what you’re saying is this... it is perfectly acceptable for an A-side fighter to refrain from initiating contract negotiations against a B-side genuine pound-for-pound quality opponent that competes one weight division heavier than himself… even though the aforementioned A-side fighter has the physical capability to compete in the heavier weight class?boxing_rocks wrote:They never negotiated with Ward, because you don't negotiate with somebody like Ward unless you have to, and they didn't need Ward at the time he suddenly became interested.
Lackeos wrote:I didn't see you taking Pacquiao's side back then.Badhusker wrote:No PPV share.......about what I figured. No way will team GGG accept, and would not blame them. It's one thing making your biggest payday, but no PPV share? Pac turned down $40 million because of that. Much more money to be made in PPV with these kind of fights.boxing_rocks wrote:It sounds like the offer is flat $10m with no ppv share. The question is what a date is. If that is for next September, then why they are talking about it now?
Except for the fact you do not know how to score a fight anyway. It is best that you did not. Thank you.Tanzio wrote:I would have done a rbr if I was at home.
Right on the money here. I agree./ I think Max went after ODH after the fight without directly doing so. I really liked that. Canelo is hiding behind his promotion team while ducking GGG. Canelo has no interest in making the fight with GGG but to keep bringing in fans and not losing any PPV buys he has to pretend like he is not ducking him. It is just a business decision. But if he just stays at 154 and wants to just fight at that weight I have no problem with that at all. I would like to see Brook vs. Canelo at 154. That fight makes a lot of sense to me. Not much else at 154 except the Charlo cowards who do not like to fight anyone. Just a couple of cowards. Andrade is also at 154 and undefeated and yet he refuses to strep up into elite competition as well. The common thread is that they are all Americans and this is typical of American boxers these days except for a few.CaptainSpacerod wrote:Everybody knows Canelo is ducking GGG for as long as he can hoping that age will catch up with him
Talking bullshit to Max Kellerman in the ring after knocking over a hopelessly overmatched opponent fools nobody
Lancenix wrote:Except for the fact you do not know how to score a fight anyway. It is best that you did not. Thank you.Tanzio wrote:I would have done a rbr if I was at home.

More BS. Andrade has wanted to fight Canelo for at least 2 years, and won't shy away from fighting anyone at 154. Don't bring up the Charlo BS either, because they gave him 30 days notice, and had other contract things going on. He signed the next month, and Charlo went with Vanes instead. Imo, Andrade is the best at 154 if he gets a chance to prove it.Lancenix wrote:Right on the money here. I agree./ I think Max went after ODH after the fight without directly doing so. I really liked that. Canelo is hiding behind his promotion team while ducking GGG. Canelo has no interest in making the fight with GGG but to keep bringing in fans and not losing any PPV buys he has to pretend like he is not ducking him. It is just a business decision. But if he just stays at 154 and wants to just fight at that weight I have no problem with that at all. I would like to see Brook vs. Canelo at 154. That fight makes a lot of sense to me. Not much else at 154 except the Charlo cowards who do not like to fight anyone. Just a couple of cowards. Andrade is also at 154 and undefeated and yet he refuses to strep up into elite competition as well. The common thread is that they are all Americans and this is typical of American boxers these days except for a few.CaptainSpacerod wrote:Everybody knows Canelo is ducking GGG for as long as he can hoping that age will catch up with him
Talking bullshit to Max Kellerman in the ring after knocking over a hopelessly overmatched opponent fools nobody