The LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT game: *CLOSED*

[gilgamesh]

1. Ezzard Charles
2. Archie Moore
3. Gene Tunney
4. Michael Spinks
5. Bob Foster
6. Roy Jones Jr.
7. Tommy Gibbons
8. Billy Conn
9. Harold Johnson
10. John Henry Lewis

[Crease]

I will update our scoreboard within the next 24 hours, i've been extremely busy at the moment.

But keep voting gents, i can assure you all that every single point offered out will be counted to the very last...

[Seamus]

1.Sam Langford
2.Harry Greb
3.Bob Fitzsimmons
4.Gene Tunney
5.Ezzard Charles
6.Archie Moore
7.Tommy Loughran
8.Billy Conn
9.Tommy Gibbons
10.Jack Delaney

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I don't have a defacto list like I do at Heavyweight. But I'll give it a go.

1. Charles
2. Moore
3. Tunney
4. Greb
5. Loughran
6. Rosenbloom
7. Spinks
8. Lewis
9. Conn
10. Langford

[Crease]

Only 9 members in and already 19 separate boxers have been awarded points.
I suspected that the Light Heavies was a divisive weight class, but apparently even more so than I initially thought:

Current Scoreboard: (09 members have voted)

1st - 75 pts Archie Moore
2nd - 73 pts Ezzard Charles
3rd - 61 pts Gene Tunney
4th - 55 pts Michael Spinks
5th - 34 pts Sam Langford
6th - 30 pts Bob Foster
Tied 7th - 23 pts Tommy Loughran
Tied 7th - 23 pts Billy Conn
9th - 21 pts Harry Greb
10th - 20 pts Maxie Rosenbloom

11th - 18 pts Bob Fitzsimmons
12th - 17 pts Tommy Gibbons
Tied 13th - 12 pts Harold Johnson
Tied 13th - 12 pts Roy Jones Jr
15th - 09 pts John Henry Lewis
16th - 08 pts Jimmy Bivins
17th - 02 pts Joey Maxim
Tied 18th - 01 pt Matthew Saad Muhammad
Tied 18th - 01 pt Jack Delaney

[Crease]

Time for me to throw my hat into the ring (if you'll pardon the pun)

1 Archie Moore (by virtue of him being the Light Heavyweight Champ for nearly a decade)
2 Ezzard Charles
3 Gene Tunney
4 Roy Jones Jr
5 Michael Spinks
6 Bob Fitzsimmons
7 Bob Foster
8 Georges Carpentier
9 Mike McTigue
10 George Gardiner

(I might be a bit biased with the last two, I freely admit)

[Keko]

Good job.
This category is full of world-class boxer and really not easy to choose the 10.We have a quality boxer(Tunney,Charles) with great victories but without the title, which is a very important part in this sport. Place them among the best but I can not ignore that fact.
My view is that it is definitely the place for them in this list but not in the very top of that fact. I respect everyone's opinion but I am the opinion expressed . I love them both and their boxing was great,the possibilities are top category but were not champions of what is unfortunately a fact.
Neither are they to blame because we know what it was but the title is very important in these lists.

[Keko]

My 10
1.Archie Moore
2.Michael Spinks
3.Tommy Loughran
4.Ezzard Charles
5.Billy Conn
6.Bob Foster
7.Gene Tunney
8.Maxie Rosenbloom
9.Harold Johnson
10.Sam Langford

[Crease]

Thanks everyone for the their input so far. We couldn't do it without you gents.

[Tomasino]

Good job.
This category is full of world-class boxer and really not easy to choose the 10.We have a quality boxer(Tunney,Charles) with great victories but without the title, which is a very important part in this sport. Place them among the best but I can not ignore that fact.
My view is that it is definitely the place for them in this list but not in the very top of that fact. I respect everyone's opinion but I am the opinion expressed . I love them both and their boxing was great,the possibilities are top category but were not champions of what is unfortunately a fact.
Neither are they to blame because we know what it was but the title is very important in these lists.

They were not champions simply due to corruption in the sport

[Tuff Customer]

Seriously? not even worth getting involved in if no one has heard of Galindez, Conteh or Johnson.

All totally missing from lists. All best of best. Might want to revamp some lists.

[Keko]

Good job.
This category is full of world-class boxer and really not easy to choose the 10.We have a quality boxer(Tunney,Charles) with great victories but without the title, which is a very important part in this sport. Place them among the best but I can not ignore that fact.
My view is that it is definitely the place for them in this list but not in the very top of that fact. I respect everyone's opinion but I am the opinion expressed . I love them both and their boxing was great,the possibilities are top category but were not champions of what is unfortunately a fact.
Neither are they to blame because we know what it was but the title is very important in these lists.

They were not champions simply due to corruption in the sport

It's all clear to me whether or can not against that fact. Ezzard would certainly become a champion that he got the opportunity at that time.

[Keko]

Seriously? not even worth getting involved in if no one has heard of Galindez, Conteh or Johnson.

All totally missing from lists. All best of best. Might want to revamp some lists.

I saw a lot of lists and I do not remember that the bass on it in the top 10th.
There's more people but maybe someone is put them

[Tomasino]

Seriously? not even worth getting involved in if no one has heard of Galindez, Conteh or Johnson.

All totally missing from lists. All best of best. Might want to revamp some lists.

Just post up your list mate and see what happens. I'd have those fighters you mentioned at 14-25 all time. Conteh was inconsistent although on form he was fantastic.

[SteveO]

This was a tricky one for me Crease but I've settled on a Top 10.

Archie Moore
Ezzard Charles
Sam Langford
Bob Fitzsimmons
Gene Tunney
Michael Spinks
Bob Foster
Billy Conn
Harry Greb
Maxie Rosenbloom

[Ambling Alp II]

I do think we have to keep Langford in mind when ranking light heavyweights. Some people have, but he doesn't seem to be on some people's radar.

While within the light heavyweight limit, he had wins over Philadelphia O'Brien (KO5), heavyweights Sam McVey (TKO11), and Joe Jeannette (Decision), and a first round KO of Fireman Flynn. He also had a draw with McVey.

I don't think he had an official loss when he was a light heavy. (He did have a newspaper decision loss to Flynn.)

[Seamus]

You'll get the occasional guy who makes a really strange comment like, I don't rank Langford or Greb at Light Heavyweight.

[cfang]

Great topic - so much more fun than the heavy - so many more to choose from

Here's my ten

Ezzard Charles
Gene Tunney
Sam Langford
Archie Moore
Michael Spinks
Bob Foster
Harry Greb
Roy Jones Jr
Tommy Gibbons
Jimmy Bivins

[BoxBuzz]

Conteh Johnson (I'm assuming Marvin here) and Galindez?


VERY important LHW names....IF you are listing from 10 to 20.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Moore over Charles is laughable. Not subjective, not debatable, just a joke.

[Keko]

Real is not a joke, because the entire decade of the champion.
Yet this is an important part of.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

It couldn't be less important to me. Where was Tommy burns on your heavyweight list?

[Keko]

Is not top 30
but it has nothing to do with the fact that Moore was long a champion Ezzard unfortunately not. One of them from teasing fighters but need not exaggerate.

Edit
I respect your position but there are plenty of lists where Moore No1Lhw

[gilgamesh]

Is not top 30
but it has nothing to do with the fact that Moore was long a champion Ezzard unfortunately not. One of them from teasing fighters but need not exaggerate.

Edit
I respect your position but there are plenty of lists where Moore No1Lhw

Charles beat Moore all 3 times they fought. Once by KO. That's why it's not debatable who was better.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Well, Charles was greater than Moore wherever you rank them. Honestly, the way you justify it is even more laughable than the ranking itself. Straight up buffoonery.