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tiny_acres wrote:

SFW wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: It's not just about the 80 ish million for Povetkin, it's also because Wilder tries to destroy his name and a lot of dumb African American Wilder fans think that Povetkin actually did something wrong, while he didn't. Povetkin is a 100% innocent men, from the start.

Do you wake up with race related thoughts in your head or is there like an e-mail list to join that has a racist verse of the day type thing?

His racist comments are enough for a lifetime ban from this forum.
He's by far the most useless poster on this site

I actually stopped reply to his BS. Hope more of us will do it too...

bigman1968 wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Well, actually it's Ryabinski who allready said he was planning to suit Wilder and then Wilder countersuited him while Ryabinski prepared his case and like allways, kept his word.

Team Wilder had previously filed his suit for $5 million two weeks before Andrey Ryabinsky filed the $34.5 million dollar lawsuit against Deontay.

Review the facts again and let me know if this leads you to revise your theory.

Don't confuse ajfuck with facts...his tongue so deep in Riabinsky's ass that are really hope for him he is getting paid, at least-))))

I haven't read a word from that little bitch in ages.

Ryabinsky hinted about filing a law suit on May 31st, almost two weeks before DiBella filing his suit.

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tiny_acres wrote:

SFW wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: It's not just about the 80 ish million for Povetkin, it's also because Wilder tries to destroy his name and a lot of dumb African American Wilder fans think that Povetkin actually did something wrong, while he didn't. Povetkin is a 100% innocent men, from the start.

Do you wake up with race related thoughts in your head or is there like an e-mail list to join that has a racist verse of the day type thing?

His racist comments are enough for a lifetime ban from this forum.
He's by far the most useless poster on this site

He is pretty weird and I strongly disagree with most of his points, but there were much, much worse posters here. "asdfjkl" is extremely sensible comparing to complete idiots like Rover (remember him?)

Boxing Writer wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

SFW wrote:
Do you wake up with race related thoughts in your head or is there like an e-mail list to join that has a racist verse of the day type thing?

His racist comments are enough for a lifetime ban from this forum.
He's by far the most useless poster on this site

He is pretty weird and I strongly disagree with most of his points, but there were much, much worse posters here. "asdfjkl" is extremely sensible comparing to complete idiots like Rover (remember him?)

Rover is in this thread, just haven't started his massive crap yet.

asdfjkl wrote:It's not just about the 80 ish million for Povetkin, it's also because Wilder tries to destroy his name and a lot of dumb African American Wilder fans think that Povetkin actually did something wrong, while he didn't. Povetkin is a 100% innocent men, from the start.

100% innocent.

Only a child would talk like that about any athlete in 2016.

Enlightened-One wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:
Actually it's Wilder\DiBella suit for contract breach for 5M and Povetkin\Riabinsky countersuit for defamation for crazy $$$.
Defamation is very hard to prove in court, contract breach is much easier....I don't know who represents Riabinsky, but Wilder guy is Judd Burstein...best litigator in Sport business.

Well, actually it's Ryabinski who allready said he was planning to suit Wilder and then Wilder countersuited him while Ryabinski prepared his case and like allways, kept his word.

Team Wilder had previously filed his suit for $5 million two weeks before Andrey Ryabinsky filed the $34.5 million dollar lawsuit against Deontay.

Review the facts again and let me know if this leads you to revise your theory.

http://www.BS.com/povetkins-pr ... ry--104628

Maybe you should get your facts straight lol. It happened exactly the way I discribed.

tiny_acres wrote:

SFW wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: It's not just about the 80 ish million for Povetkin, it's also because Wilder tries to destroy his name and a lot of dumb African American Wilder fans think that Povetkin actually did something wrong, while he didn't. Povetkin is a 100% innocent men, from the start.

Do you wake up with race related thoughts in your head or is there like an e-mail list to join that has a racist verse of the day type thing?

His racist comments are enough for a lifetime ban from this forum.
He's by far the most useless poster on this site

It's not racist, there are also more intelligent ones who don't fall for Wilder and his team their lies. Somehow the dumber ones do fall for it, you can see it all over youtube if you like.

asdfjkl wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Well, actually it's Ryabinski who allready said he was planning to suit Wilder and then Wilder countersuited him while Ryabinski prepared his case and like allways, kept his word.

Team Wilder had previously filed his suit for $5 million two weeks before Andrey Ryabinsky filed the $34.5 million dollar lawsuit against Deontay.

Review the facts again and let me know if this leads you to revise your theory.

http://www.BS.com/povetkins-pr ... ry--104628

Maybe you should get your facts straight lol. It happened exactly the way I discribed.

Here’s what you stated:

asdfjkl wrote:Well, actually it's Ryabinski who allready said he was planning to suit Wilder and then Wilder countersuited him while Ryabinski prepared his case and like allways, kept his word

It’s impossible to “countersue” someone whilst there isn’t a pending lawsuit against yourself.

Here’s what I stated… and is technically and irrefutably correct:

Enlightened-One wrote:Team Wilder had previously filed his suit for $5 million two weeks before Andrey Ryabinsky filed the $34.5 million dollar lawsuit against Deontay.

I don’t need to research the matter further, because my original statement is correct and remains unchallenged.

Something happened to Kalan? His silence is unusual

Enlightened-One wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: Team Wilder had previously filed his suit for $5 million two weeks before Andrey Ryabinsky filed the $34.5 million dollar lawsuit against Deontay.

Review the facts again and let me know if this leads you to revise your theory.

http://www.BS.com/povetkins-promoter-ready-sue-team-wilder-force-mandatory--104628

Maybe you should get your facts straight lol. It happened exactly the way I discribed.

Here’s what you stated:

asdfjkl wrote:Well, actually it's Ryabinski who allready said he was planning to suit Wilder and then Wilder countersuited him while Ryabinski prepared his case and like allways, kept his word

It’s impossible to “countersue” someone whilst there isn’t a pending lawsuit against yourself.

Here’s what I stated… and is technically and irrefutably correct:

Enlightened-One wrote:Team Wilder had previously filed his suit for $5 million two weeks before Andrey Ryabinsky filed the $34.5 million dollar lawsuit against Deontay.

I don’t need to research the matter further, because my original statement is correct and remains unchallenged.

Fact remains, everybody knew Wilder and his team were getting brought to court, so if he then suddenly starts to sue Ryabinsky you should have known it's a desperate action of a pussy with barely any options left, a reaction to that what he couldn't avoid. A countersuit, unlike Ryabinsky who simply kept his word. Wilder his desperate reaction had nothing to do with it, the subject is completely different. Ryabinsky never countersuited at all.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Wilder has a great case considering the legal precedent was set by ryabinsky. Povetkin has nothing but a threat and a hope that the legitimate suit gets dropped.

And after thr recent events, defamation lawsuit looks sounds funny, at least-))))

Enlightened-One wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

bigman1968 wrote:
Actually it's Wilder\DiBella suit for contract breach for 5M and Povetkin\Riabinsky countersuit for defamation for crazy $$$.
Defamation is very hard to prove in court, contract breach is much easier....I don't know who represents Riabinsky, but Wilder guy is Judd Burstein...best litigator in Sport business.

Well, actually it's Ryabinski who allready said he was planning to suit Wilder and then Wilder countersuited him while Ryabinski prepared his case and like allways, kept his word.

Team Wilder had previously filed his suit for $5 million two weeks before Andrey Ryabinsky filed the $34.5 million dollar lawsuit against Deontay.

Review the facts again and let me know if this leads you to revise your theory.

Yes, Wilder filed an actual suit first, but Ryabinsky tweeted that he is going to sue before that.

If everything I've heard is correct, aren't the testing agencies 100% to blame?

Common Sense Check
1. Your opponent failed a drug test.
2. You're not going to fight him.

That's the route 99.9999% of humans would take.
Because it is common sense.

Several of you idiots here are trying to make this into a Wilder thing.
He's not a scientist. How much knowledge of advanced chemistry do you think he has?
How much knowledge of advanced chemistry does 99% of the world have?

If everything is true, then it's the testing company's fault.
Their error led Wilder/Stiverne to do the logical thing.

If you think that Deontay Wilder is scheming, or even in the room scheming on these things,
YOU ARE A DICK HEAD.
This is some complete bullsh!t at the higher levels that continue to show boxing is a broken system.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:If everything I've heard is correct, aren't the testing agencies 100% to blame?

Common Sense Check
1. Your opponent failed a drug test.
2. You're not going to fight him.

That's the route 99.9999% of humans would take.
Because it is common sense.

Several of you idiots here are trying to make this into a Wilder thing.
He's not a scientist. How much knowledge of advanced chemistry do you think he has?
How much knowledge of advanced chemistry does 99% of the world have?

If everything is true, then it's the testing company's fault.
Their error led Wilder/Stiverne to do the logical thing.

If you think that Deontay Wilder is scheming, or even in the room scheming on these things,
YOU ARE A DICK HEAD.
This is some complete bullsh!t at the higher levels that continue to show boxing is a broken system.

Point is that Wilder probably knew weeks and weeks beforehand that the Povetkin fight would never happen. That's why he ducked Povetkin all the time till all of a sudden he wanted to fight him?! And on top of that, also had absolutely no problems any more with fighting in Russia! He only begged at the WBC if they could guarantee Wada testing. Then, right after Wada their mistake begged for the fight to be cancelled instead of delayed, instead of asking for a good investigation.
This is also why Wilder was more fat and out of shape then ever before, as well as ever since. It's no wonder he injured himself against Arreola soon after.
And also lost the weight again, he only gained that because he hasn't trained for ages.

bigman1968 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Wilder has a great case considering the legal precedent was set by ryabinsky. Povetkin has nothing but a threat and a hope that the legitimate suit gets dropped.

And after thr recent events, defamation lawsuit looks sounds funny, at least-))))

Wilder and stiverne are both getting paid.

AntonS wrote:

sandis wrote:Who is Riabinsky? Boxrec does not have this promoter. Is he vice-president of commission?

View http://www.espn.com.au/boxing/story/_/i ... tkin-fight

This article shows you the reasons for all the skullduggery of VADA and the WBC... They didn't want Ryabinsky to outbid American promoters for lucrative Heavyweight Championshp Fights... they don't want to lose North America's last claim to a Heavyweight Championship... and they don't want Russia to to stabilize itself as a major venue to stage World Heavyweight Championship Fights -- or Title Fights in general.

Kalan wrote:

AntonS wrote:

sandis wrote:Who is Riabinsky? Boxrec does not have this promoter. Is he vice-president of commission?

View http://www.espn.com.au/boxing/story/_/i ... tkin-fight

This article shows you the reasons for all the skullduggery of VADA and the WBC... They didn't want Ryabinsky to outbid American promoters for lucrative Heavyweight Championshp Fights... they don't want to lose North America's last claim to a Heavyweight Championship... and they don't want Russia to to stabilize itself as a major venue to stage World Heavyweight Championship Fights -- or Title Fights in general.

So why the eff WBC need VADA to avoid Povetkin?

WBO, WBA and IBF just ignore him, it's easy.. WBC could easily do the same.

bigman1968 wrote:

Kalan wrote:

AntonS wrote:View http://www.espn.com.au/boxing/story/_/i ... tkin-fight

This article shows you the reasons for all the skullduggery of VADA and the WBC... They didn't want Ryabinsky to outbid American promoters for lucrative Heavyweight Championshp Fights... they don't want to lose North America's last claim to a Heavyweight Championship... and they don't want Russia to to stabilize itself as a major venue to stage World Heavyweight Championship Fights -- or Title Fights in general.

So why the eff WBC need VADA to avoid Povetkin?

WBO, WBA and IBF just ignore him, it's easy.. WBC could easily do the same.

Because that's quite sad behaviour.
Oh, he's better then me? Oh, let's just act like he doesn't exist!
As a sportman you simply shouldn't be that sad, Povetkin is a better boxer as Deontay Wilder, and the Americans should simply admit it. Also note, that once you're a champion or mandatory you're automatically out of all the other belts. Has nothing to do with ignoring.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:The op didn't post the whole statement. Not a threat, just clarification on the interim title. Penalties should be stiffer for frivolous law suits. I'm sure wilder will just settle when they offer him a couple million before either hits court.

There is nothing frivolous about being defamed by DiBella and Wilder... Those bastards need to pay through the nose... The WBC is worried because The WBC and VADA are the next obvious targets of lawsuits from Povetkin and Ryabinsky... Those filthy, lying, crooked bastards should get tossed in the slammer.

And yes it's a threat... The jackasses at the WBC are so arrogant they think they can scare Povetkin into dropping his lawsuits versus Wilder and DiBella.. Not a chance.. It's time the miserable crooks in Boxing start paying for their partisan schemes, manipulation, and fix jobs.. The WBC got with VADA and are forcing all it's champions and challengers to take VADA testing even though the V in VADA stands for "voluntary" ... They're a rip off of WADA.