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Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 08:22
by Boxerbeetle
I've always believed that Ward would beat Kovalev and won't change my mind anytime soon. Won't be sorry if I'm wrong though - Kovalev is a million times better to watch and I'll be rooting for him. But Ward on points in a boring fight is most likely outcome for me.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 10:24
by Counter-puncher
I'll say for about the 8th time that its a closer fight to call than the extreme partisans on either side would have it. In almost every case, those who strongly assert X or Y is going to win, no way X or Y can win, have personal biases that are pretty obvious. Neither man winning would surprise me.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 11:14
by boxing_rocks
SFW wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:Mr. Plainview wrote:B Hop went 12 rounds with Kov. Caparello dropped Kov.
Ward is gonna be just fine. UD in an anti climatic Ward paced fight.
Caparello didn't drop Kovalev. Sergey lost balance/tripped. Not very good balance is one of his drawbacks compared to Golovkin.
BHop went into a shell and had no chances to win. Ward could try to do the same thing, but what's the point? Besides, he doesn't have Bernard's chin.
So with that logic, Kovalev's bad balance is going to beat Andre Ward? That's one of the God Damn dumbest things uttered yet even for a nuthugger. Fantasy time will be over soon thankfully.
I didn't say anything like that. Ward could score a random point due to Kovalev tripping, but it will not help him.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 15:15
by Freedom2013
"Everyone has a plan until they get clinched, clamped, held and headbutted" - Andre Ward
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 15:19
by ThereByTheGrace
Boxerbeetle wrote:I've always believed that Ward would beat Kovalev and won't change my mind anytime soon. Won't be sorry if I'm wrong though - Kovalev is a million times better to watch and I'll be rooting for him. But Ward on points in a boring fight is most likely outcome for me.
Definitely Ward has the smarts to make Kovalev miss and throw wildly and look bad doing it. Points win for Ward every time.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 15:20
by keithmoonhangover
Ricky_ wrote:Will it be enough to topple GGG's position as the best fighter in the world?
Ward is going to win every round until the fight is stopped. Ward will be at his absolute best for this fight.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 15:29
by Ricky_
keithmoonhangover wrote:Ricky_ wrote:Will it be enough to topple GGG's position as the best fighter in the world?
Ward is going to win every round until the fight is stopped. Ward will be at his absolute best for this fight.
Ward will be flat on his back
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 15:44
by keithmoonhangover
Ricky_ wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Ricky_ wrote:Will it be enough to topple GGG's position as the best fighter in the world?
Ward is going to win every round until the fight is stopped. Ward will be at his absolute best for this fight.
Ward will be flat on his back
Absolutely no chance. Kolvalev won't land the bombs, he won't outwork Ward. Andre is levels above. Andre has won almost all the rounds he's ever fought. Krusher struggled in his last fight.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 16:41
by Ricky_
keithmoonhangover wrote:Ricky_ wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
Ward is going to win every round until the fight is stopped. Ward will be at his absolute best for this fight.
Ward will be flat on his back
Absolutely no chance. Kolvalev won't land the bombs, he won't outwork Ward. Andre is levels above. Andre has won almost all the rounds he's ever fought. Krusher struggled in his last fight.
cmon now Ward's been on his pants before. Kovalev will pinch through his guard if need be. put your money on Kov KO.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 17:56
by diddy
In no way do I see Ward stopping Kov isnide distance. Definitely least likely of all scenarios.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:49
by boxing_rocks
diddy wrote:In no way do I see Ward stopping Kov isnide distance. Definitely least likely of all scenarios.
Skillfully applied headbutt can stop Kovalev.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 22:44
by SFW
boxing_rocks wrote:diddy wrote:In no way do I see Ward stopping Kov isnide distance. Definitely least likely of all scenarios.
Skillfully applied headbutt can stop Kovalev.
let's hope so

Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 23:08
by crusader
keithmoonhangover wrote:Ricky_ wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:
Ward is going to win every round until the fight is stopped. Ward will be at his absolute best for this fight.
Ward will be flat on his back
Absolutely no chance. Kolvalev won't land the bombs, he won't outwork Ward. Andre is levels above. Andre has won almost all the rounds he's ever fought. Krusher struggled in his last fight.
And in Ward's last fight he failed to stop little, old Alex Brand. Before that he failed to stop Barrera (who had been down before), and even blown up Paul Smith went into the 9th without going down.We've also seen Edwin get flattened by Williams and badly hurt by Mike Seals, yet Ward hardly budged him, and guys like Miranda and Green have been down several times, yet lasted the distance against Ward without going down or being seriously hurt. The only stoppage Ward's gotten against a top 10 opponent was over fragile, drained Dawson, who one fight later was stopped by the first good shot Stevenson landed.
So plenty to suggest that Ward wins by decision (my pick), but not so much to suggest that he scores a stoppage. He is content to coast when dominating, and even if he's finding the mark easily I doubt that he pushes for a finish.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 16 Oct 2016, 05:03
by keithmoonhangover
crusader wrote:So plenty to suggest that Ward wins by decision (my pick), but not so much to suggest that he scores a stoppage. He is content to coast when dominating, and even if he's finding the mark easily I doubt that he pushes for a finish.
I think he's going to put on a display. He's completely motivated and we will see his best ever performance. Decision is the logical pick, but I think his accuracy will force a stoppage.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 10:17
by hoagylt
dberry wrote:I know I'm going to cop flack for it but I rhink Golovkin is a better all round fighter than Kov and would beat him today if they weighed in at their respective weights.
I agree.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 10:21
by boxing_rocks
hoagylt wrote:dberry wrote:I know I'm going to cop flack for it but I rhink Golovkin is a better all round fighter than Kov and would beat him today if they weighed in at their respective weights.
I agree.
Kovalev still pastes Ward ...
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 10:28
by cocka09
Ricky_ wrote:NateJR wrote:Kovalev won't paste Ward first off. kovalev will be lucky to win 4 rounds in a one sided anti climatic fight. Ward has so many ways he can win this fight, Kovalev will more than likely have to score multiple knock downs or get a knock out to win and that's pretty damn unlikely. With that being said, who ever wins deserves the #1 spot an d a don't feel GGG is the #1 P4P to begin with.
Let's be honest, Ward is going to get knocked out.
Are you basing this on the amount of times that Ward has been knocked out before?
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 10:59
by boxing_rocks
cocka09 wrote:Ricky_ wrote:NateJR wrote:Kovalev won't paste Ward first off. kovalev will be lucky to win 4 rounds in a one sided anti climatic fight. Ward has so many ways he can win this fight, Kovalev will more than likely have to score multiple knock downs or get a knock out to win and that's pretty damn unlikely. With that being said, who ever wins deserves the #1 spot an d a don't feel GGG is the #1 P4P to begin with.
Let's be honest, Ward is going to get knocked out.
Are you basing this on the amount of times that Ward has been knocked out before?
No, it is based on the number of times Kovalev's opponents were knocked out and on how Ward looked in his last 3 fights.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 10:59
by Barra
Kovalev didn't look that good in his last fight
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 12:26
by boxing_rocks
Barra wrote:Kovalev didn't look that good in his last fight
Ward wouldn't look good against Chilemba too, but he prefers to pick limited come forward opponents. If he thinks that Kovalev is one of them, he will be hugely disappointed.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 13:23
by SFW
The situation is the same now as it has always been. Your only hope is that Ward is shot or can't pull the trigger.
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 13:44
by boxing_rocks
SFW wrote:The situation is the same now as it has always been. Your only hope is that Ward is shot or can't pull the trigger.
He doesn't need to be shot, just a little less accurate with his headbutts

Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 13:48
by SFW
boxing_rocks wrote:SFW wrote:The situation is the same now as it has always been. Your only hope is that Ward is shot or can't pull the trigger.
He doesn't need to be shot, just a little less accurate with his headbutts

Those 2 head butts years ago haunt you guys I love it, they are becoming my new Zelenoff just fantastic entertainment
Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 14:54
by boxing_rocks
SFW wrote:boxing_rocks wrote:SFW wrote:The situation is the same now as it has always been. Your only hope is that Ward is shot or can't pull the trigger.
He doesn't need to be shot, just a little less accurate with his headbutts

Those 2 head butts years ago haunt you guys I love it, they are becoming my new Zelenoff just fantastic entertainment
Funny that those headbutts happened during Ward's biggest challenges

Re: When Kovalev pastes Ward...
Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 16:15
by SFW
Against Kessler, one fight. What you silly kids call "the smoking gun" lol