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Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 22 Oct 2016, 12:53
by Stuarty
Londonirish wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:
I thought Pulev beat Chisora without breaking sweat tbh. I see Whyte as a slightly better version of Chisora. Whyte wins this if it happens!
I don't know what fight the Judges was watching that night! SD

Yeah that was a puzzler

One of they ones that make you doubt yourself
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Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 22 Oct 2016, 13:31
by Killer Blow
Chisora in his prime would win this. However, he looks shot now. His stamina was terrible against Pulev, he looked gased after 2 rounds. He came in shape for that fight as well. Dillian on the other hand is in the best shape of his life. For that reason alone I'm very confident Dillian wins, most likely by late stoppage. Not because he's the better fighter, but because his conditioning looks far superior at this moment in time.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 05:43
by lillywhite14
Chisora pre-Haye would beat Whyte.
He's never been the same since that fight imo
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 23 Oct 2016, 05:56
by Oiky
Way whytes been lately I think chisora will take it
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 10:35
by PredatorHayds
Londonirish wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:
I thought Pulev beat Chisora without breaking sweat tbh. I see Whyte as a slightly better version of Chisora. Whyte wins this if it happens!
I don't know what fight the Judges was watching that night! SD

He must of seen Del chase the lad into the kitchen the day before and give him a hiding and didn't want to get on his wrong side.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 10:39
by Stuarty
PredatorHayds wrote:Londonirish wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:
I thought Pulev beat Chisora without breaking sweat tbh. I see Whyte as a slightly better version of Chisora. Whyte wins this if it happens!
I don't know what fight the Judges was watching that night! SD

He must of seen Del chase the lad into the kitchen the day before and give him a hiding and didn't want to get on his wrong side.
Chisora is a bully! He likes intimidating people! He's a big guy and can usually get away with it but I enjoy seeing him get his ass handed to him!
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 10:42
by PredatorHayds
Stuarty30 wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:Londonirish wrote:
I don't know what fight the Judges was watching that night! SD

He must of seen Del chase the lad into the kitchen the day before and give him a hiding and didn't want to get on his wrong side.
Chisora is a bully! He likes intimidating people! He's a big guy and can usually get away with it but I enjoy seeing him get his ass handed to him!
To be fair he got a bottle thrown at him (not the first time)
I've never wore a bandana but if I did I'd wear it like Del. He's a fashion icon in my eyes.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 11:02
by ILikeBeer
Boxerbeetle wrote:Is there a combination of heavyweights that haven't been linked over the last few weeks? Seems like nearly every thread recently has been about a potential heavyweight fight featuring 'top contenders'.
We need to get WWF style triple-threat matches legalised in boxing.
I want Anthony Joshua vs Vitali Klitschko vs David Haye.
Or add David Price, and make it a Fatal Four Way.

Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 11:28
by Boxerbeetle
ILikeBeer wrote:Boxerbeetle wrote:Is there a combination of heavyweights that haven't been linked over the last few weeks? Seems like nearly every thread recently has been about a potential heavyweight fight featuring 'top contenders'.
We need to get WWF style triple-threat matches legalised in boxing.
I want Anthony Joshua vs Vitali Klitschko vs David Haye.
Or add David Price, and make it a Fatal Four Way.

Eff it, let's just have a Royal Rumble.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 12:10
by rhino222
I think Whyte takes this one, he still has a bit of hunger whereas DelBoy is 'cashcoasting'
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 12:15
by Londonirish
PredatorHayds wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:
He must of seen Del chase the lad into the kitchen the day before and give him a hiding and didn't want to get on his wrong side.
Chisora is a bully! He likes intimidating people! He's a big guy and can usually get away with it but I enjoy seeing him get his ass handed to him!
To be fair he got a bottle thrown at him (not the first time)
I've never wore a bandana but if I did I'd wear it like Del. He's a fashion icon in my eyes.
I like Derek BUT The Bandana

What a joke then the trainers wearing it an all its embrasssing...
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 12:17
by Rob3_142
I think people are too quick to jump onto AJ and Whyte about their fight for the British title. I'm of the thinking that the fight should just be completely written off as any indication as to where either fighter are.
Firstly, it was not a fight, it was a brawl. Both fighters will learn a lot from it, and learn not to lead with emotions. Tactics and technique were completely abandoned in the first 3 rounds.
Secondly, Whyte had a shoulder injury which required surgery immediately after the fight. He was very raw in his technique (ie. all over the place), and was incredible out of shape.
I now see a Whyte which is fitter, more focused, injury free and making a linear improvement on his technique. Had Whyte fought Chisora Dec 2015, I would of sided with Chisora. Now I side with Whyte. Chisora staying active and clearly still some interest in the game, but the Pulev fight for me has to have taken a bit too much wind out of his sails. I hope it gets made though.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 24 Oct 2016, 14:47
by Neil Gee
Rob3_142 wrote:
I now see a Whyte which is fitter, more focused, injury free and making a linear improvement on his technique. Had Whyte fought Chisora Dec 2015, I would of sided with Chisora. Now I side with Whyte. Chisora staying active and clearly still some interest in the game, but the Pulev fight for me has to have taken a bit too much wind out of his sails. I hope it gets made though.
It's a shame these two hadn't come through the ranks together, it would be a real pick 'em fight if they were both in their prime, but they didn't and at this stage of their relative careers you gotta lean to Whyte. He has all the advantages of youth, freshness and self-belief and if he doesn't defeat Chisora at this stage of his life then he's not as good as I think he is.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 25 Oct 2016, 07:02
by Rob3_142
Neil Gee wrote:Rob3_142 wrote:
I now see a Whyte which is fitter, more focused, injury free and making a linear improvement on his technique. Had Whyte fought Chisora Dec 2015, I would of sided with Chisora. Now I side with Whyte. Chisora staying active and clearly still some interest in the game, but the Pulev fight for me has to have taken a bit too much wind out of his sails. I hope it gets made though.
It's a shame these two hadn't come through the ranks together, it would be a real pick 'em fight if they were both in their prime, but they didn't and at this stage of their relative careers you gotta lean to Whyte. He has all the advantages of youth, freshness and self-belief and if he doesn't defeat Chisora at this stage of his life then he's not as good as I think he is.
He has to beat Chisora, otherwise he drops below gatekeeper status. I still think this fight potentially packs a punch, but just feel that their styles clash. Chisora is making noise now which suggests this fight is definitely happening!
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 29 Oct 2016, 11:24
by Killer Blow
Chisora posted a video on twitter saying it's signed and a done deal.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 18:26
by BitPlayer
Killer Blow wrote:Chisora in his prime would win this. However, he looks shot now. His stamina was terrible against Pulev, he looked gased after 2 rounds. He came in shape for that fight as well. Dillian on the other hand is in the best shape of his life. For that reason alone I'm very confident Dillian wins, most likely by late stoppage. Not because he's the better fighter, but because his conditioning looks far superior at this moment in time.
Gassed after two rounds?
He got tired but he still went 12 with a world class opponent, and still landed good punches and won later rounds.
I selected this later part of Whyte Lewison pretty much at random, I'm pretty sure it's not a slow motion replay. Does this look like someone with a good engine?
https://gfycat.com/BlondGenuineKissingbug
He didn't fight at a pace close to what Chisora had to against Pulev.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 18:43
by BitPlayer
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 19:10
by Twinkle Toes
If Chisora had the world level talent, or the power he would have beaten Pulev. I can understand why he took the fight, but even with a spirited performance he was at no point looking like he could win that fight.
Whyte has improved his conditioning, he has sharpened his tool set, and is looking more and more slippery. He's going to be a handful for Chisora and even though it can be argued it has come a little soon, I think Whyte has enough to come through this one.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 30 Oct 2016, 19:27
by BitPlayer
Twinkle Toes wrote:If Chisora had the world level talent, or the power he would have beaten Pulev. I can understand why he took the fight, but even with a spirited performance he was at no point looking like he could win that fight.
Whyte has improved his conditioning, he has sharpened his tool set, and is looking more and more slippery. He's going to be a handful for Chisora and even though it can be argued it has come a little soon, I think Whyte has enough to come through this one.
World level talent? We're talking about him against Whyte not Wlad.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 00:45
by Taansend
I love both Chisora & Whyte. Both crack me up.
Norf Lahndan vs Sarf Lahndan.
African born vs West Indian born.
Gobby Shyte vs Gobby Shyte
It could be an exciting war or it could be a dull, wrestling match with few decent punches thrown but the build up, oh the build up

Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 00:48
by crusader
I imagine that even Chisora could look slippery against area level fighters like Allen and Lewison.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 04:45
by Rob3_142
Last IFL video I saw with Chisora, he was saying he doesn't think it'll happen. He was suggesting that Hearn needs to pay him big. I don't know how competitive in the grand scheme of things that the money would be, or is Chisora just ducking?
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 05:50
by nitro5912
Whyte is shite, he is no higher than British level and if chisora decides to be focused and motivated he beats whyte easily.
Whyte is wild with his punches, telegraphs them and misses most of them. He also isn't very fit to cope with the sort of pace a motivated chisora can fight at.
This fight is all about what chisora turns up. A fully fit and motivated and Del boys wins a UD by at least 3 rounds. If the opposite and he comes in unmotivated then he he probably stinks the place out and ends up in a SD either way.
Chisora would look like may weather when fighting area level fighters, whyte didn't.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 07:36
by gobbles
They were going to do it on the Wembley show, which was originally December 10. Then Joshua got moved back and Whyte got taken 10 rounds by Lewison, so I guess it has either been moved back or will be on Joshua undercard.
Re: Chisora-Whyte
Posted: 31 Oct 2016, 13:44
by BitPlayer
Rob3_142 wrote:Last IFL video I saw with Chisora, he was saying he doesn't think it'll happen. He was suggesting that Hearn needs to pay him big. I don't know how competitive in the grand scheme of things that the money would be, or is Chisora just ducking?
Probably based off the fact that he wouldn't give Chisora enough against Joshua.