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caldo2025 wrote:.
GGG is highly skilled and should get more credit for his ability to do more than just bang. And honestly, with the methodical and prodding movement in the ring, he's got a style that won't be drastically affected by aging. I think GGG could fight past age 40 and still be a dominating, dangerous boxer to deal with because he's built for the long haul.

..well, that's what a lot of us thought about Klitschko and his style before he fought Fury...there are very few exceptions when a boxer could dominate the division past age 40, very few...nice to think about it, no facts to back it up and no way of knowing though...the fact is that EVERYONE is affected by ageing without exception..

greg wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:.
GGG is highly skilled and should get more credit for his ability to do more than just bang. And honestly, with the methodical and prodding movement in the ring, he's got a style that won't be drastically affected by aging. I think GGG could fight past age 40 and still be a dominating, dangerous boxer to deal with because he's built for the long haul.

..well, that's what a lot of us thought about Klitschko and his style before he fought Fury...there are very few exceptions when a boxer could dominate the division past age 40, very few...nice to think about it, no facts to back it up and no way of knowing though...the fact is that EVERYONE is affected by ageing without exception..

Who is "a lot of us" ? Only an idiot could compare Clinchko with Golovkin.

GGG looks like the real deal to me.
I feel there's always a point when a boxer is in a position to call the entire division out, we have reached that point with GGG.

Kell Brook was finished in the 1st round, the second he decided to go inside with GGG the fight was over for me that's how long it took.
In fact I believe that Brooks camp knew full well he couldn't outbox GGG from the outside and opted to slug it out and shorten the contest because the beating would have been much more severe had he gone the distance.

boxing_rocks wrote:

greg wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:.
GGG is highly skilled and should get more credit for his ability to do more than just bang. And honestly, with the methodical and prodding movement in the ring, he's got a style that won't be drastically affected by aging. I think GGG could fight past age 40 and still be a dominating, dangerous boxer to deal with because he's built for the long haul.

..well, that's what a lot of us thought about Klitschko and his style before he fought Fury...there are very few exceptions when a boxer could dominate the division past age 40, very few...nice to think about it, no facts to back it up and no way of knowing though...the fact is that EVERYONE is affected by ageing without exception..

Who is "a lot of us" ? Only an idiot could compare Clinchko with Golovkin.

..who's comparing them directly? What I'm referring to is that Klitschko seemed invincible and was supposed to blast Fury away and rule for the next 10 years...didn't happen...

Seemed invincible with 3 prior KO losses ? Yes, he was expected to beat Fury by clinching him to death, but that tactics didn't work against the bigger opponent who wasn't coming forward.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Are we wrong about GGG?

It depends what you think you could be wrong about?

For sure, I have no problem with people believing that he’s a top three pound-for-pounder, with the potential to become a first ballot Hall-of-Famer if he can gain a couple of signature victories over marquee names, but I do think that the hype he’s received has been pretty absurd.

In my mind, far too many people have bestowed upon Golovkin an honorary rite of passage to all-time “greatness” without him having earned it by beating the very best fighters of his era/weight division.

To be fair on GGG, there has never been, there isn’t and there never will be… a fighter that can possibly live up to the extreme hype and praise that has been lavished on him.

Gennady Golovkin is clearly a very good fighter that has the potential to achieve some sort of “greatness”, but he’s only human and I don’t think we should be outraged or shocked if we witness one or two flaws in his fighting style, because after all, he’s not an omnipotent invulnerable godlike being possessing super powers and infinite intelligence (as some people seem to believe).

boxing_rocks wrote:Seemed invincible with 3 prior KO losses ? Yes, he was expected to beat Fury by clinching him to death, but that tactics didn't work against the bigger opponent who wasn't coming forward.

..not sure what you are getting at? --my whole point is that EVERYONE loses when the time comes, GGG will hardly be an exception to the rule...

greg wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Seemed invincible with 3 prior KO losses ? Yes, he was expected to beat Fury by clinching him to death, but that tactics didn't work against the bigger opponent who wasn't coming forward.

..not sure what you are getting at? --my whole point is that EVERYONE loses when the time comes, GGG will hardly be an exception to the rule...

Truth is not everyone loses and not everyone's time comes.

That's all true enough except for 1 thing -- GGG is a true 1-punch KO artist...

Nobuhiro Ishida had never been stopped before... and Golovkin put him into intensive care with a sizzling right hand bomb.

Matthew Macklin was knocked stiff with one punch, a liver shot... Marco Rubio didn't beat the count either---but in his case I don't think he tried very hard... Not many guys can put people away with a single shot, but GGG is one who can... Because of the nature of the sport the likelihood of scoring a 1-punch finish in any fight is unlikely.. That's why it's almost shocking when it happens and It usually becomes the "KO of the Year" ... But in some years we don't have real good KO's to choose from.

greg wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:.
GGG is highly skilled and should get more credit for his ability to do more than just bang. And honestly, with the methodical and prodding movement in the ring, he's got a style that won't be drastically affected by aging. I think GGG could fight past age 40 and still be a dominating, dangerous boxer to deal with because he's built for the long haul.

..well, that's what a lot of us thought about Klitschko and his style before he fought Fury...there are very few exceptions when a boxer could dominate the division past age 40, very few...nice to think about it, no facts to back it up and no way of knowing though...the fact is that EVERYONE is affected by ageing without exception..

I don't like the comparison really. GGG is twice the boxing talent that Wlad was and I've always thought that the heavyweight division was the land of misfit toys during his reign. I've never come away from a Wlad fight impressed and GGG blows me away with every fight he's in. Quite honestly, we need to stop comparing GGG to anyone at this point because no one has ever done what he's been doing in that ring to this point. no one.

caldo2025 wrote:

greg wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:.
GGG is highly skilled and should get more credit for his ability to do more than just bang. And honestly, with the methodical and prodding movement in the ring, he's got a style that won't be drastically affected by aging. I think GGG could fight past age 40 and still be a dominating, dangerous boxer to deal with because he's built for the long haul.

..well, that's what a lot of us thought about Klitschko and his style before he fought Fury...there are very few exceptions when a boxer could dominate the division past age 40, very few...nice to think about it, no facts to back it up and no way of knowing though...the fact is that EVERYONE is affected by ageing without exception..

I don't like the comparison really. GGG is twice the boxing talent that Wlad was and I've always thought that the heavyweight division was the land of misfit toys during his reign. I've never come away from a Wlad fight impressed and GGG blows me away with every fight he's in. Quite honestly, we need to stop comparing GGG to anyone at this point because no one has ever done what he's been doing in that ring to this point. no one.

..I guess we'll talk about it when GGG is 40+ provided he's still around, of course ...

There's something I don't trust about GGG right now.

Initially, I wasn't too hard on him, but what happens when he faces someone his size, who can fight like Brook?
All if GGG's recent opponents were not good boxers. Some good fighters though.

There are holes for a UD win against GGG.
The Jacobs fight would be good for him.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:what happens when he faces someone his size, who can fight like Brook?

And who is that awesome guy who moves like a welterweight and hits like a LHW ?