BoxRec

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Kalan wrote:The Boxer with the most unique style I've see was Dmitry Pirog... He switched his feet up in ways nobody teaches you, and his freaky feints were like nobody teaches... Then he threw from weird angles off the wrong foot and and sure confused the Hell out of Daniel Jacobs.

Vasyl Lomachenko moves his feet so much, and throws such sustained combinations of good punches it's pretty freaky.

Henry Armstrong got away with butting and pushing with his head like nobody else ever did... He was DQ'd a couple times and he had 4 and 5 points taken sometimes... But he never stopped with the pushing and shoving and the head-butts.

Fighting Harada was a freaky switch hitter who could keep throwing while he changed stances... He was the only fighter to beat Jofre.

Nicolino Locche was a comedian/boxer... His goal was to make his opponent look foolish and make the audience laugh... He fought 5th rate opponents almost exclusively, so he was able to make his agenda happen quite frequently.

Max Baer was the clown-prince of Boxing... He would insult his opponents and swing as big as he could with looping roundhouse shots... It's interesting that only Joe Louis and Lou Nova ever made him pay the ultimate price for this behavior..

Good list. What about Ali? Would you say he had a unique style?

golden oldie wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned Roy Jones Jr. Hardly, ever bothered with the jab in his prime, just relied on his incredibly fast reflexes to both avoid shots and throw them.

Kalan wrote:That was weird, it's been double posting.

davie wrote:

Kalan wrote:That was weird, it's been double posting.

And unsurprsingly, both time you posted utter pish.

Ali's era of heavyweights, with such greats as Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton and Chamberlain (widely accepted as THE golden age of heavyweight boxing) was "very anemic"?

eff me Kalan, you could make yourself look a more obvious troll if you tried

Kalan wrote:No thanks... and Ali and Norton never really met a great boxer until they took on Larry Holmes... Of course they lost... Foreman never met a real good boxer until he took on the punchless Jimmy Young... He lost of course... Frazier never met a real good boxer at all... Ali was fair but he got hit a lot.

Chamberlain??? He would have been really good, but he was denied the opportunity... Ali refused to fight him as this video shows... All Ali wanted to do was garner publicity doing a dog and pony show with Wilt -- but he refused to sign to fight him and this video proves it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF57P1uUG0s

davie wrote:

Kalan wrote:No thanks... and Ali and Norton never really met a great boxer until they took on Larry Holmes... Of course they lost... Foreman never met a real good boxer until he took on the punchless Jimmy Young... He lost of course... Frazier never met a real good boxer at all... Ali was fair but he got hit a lot.

Chamberlain??? He would have been really good, but he was denied the opportunity... Ali refused to fight him as this video shows... All Ali wanted to do was garner publicity doing a dog and pony show with Wilt -- but he refused to sign to fight him and this video proves it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF57P1uUG0s

Not sure if this area has been looked at in the ongoing Wilt vs Ali debate.... But what exactly had Wilt done in the sport to merit a shot at the biggest name, the biggest payday for the greatest prize in the world?

Had he earned his shot, was he more worthy than Quarry, Bonavena, Patterson or Ellis? Guys who had fought the contenders and earned their place in the rankings.

I mean, put your absurd theory that he would have beaten the greatest heavyweight of all time aside for just a second and tell me, what did a giant basketball player do to earn this shot, other than be really big and good at basketball.
I'm sure the same argument could be made for whoever was playing defensive tackle for the Miami Dolphins in 1970

Tomasino wrote:

davie wrote:

Kalan wrote:No thanks... and Ali and Norton never really met a great boxer until they took on Larry Holmes... Of course they lost... Foreman never met a real good boxer until he took on the punchless Jimmy Young... He lost of course... Frazier never met a real good boxer at all... Ali was fair but he got hit a lot.

Chamberlain??? He would have been really good, but he was denied the opportunity... Ali refused to fight him as this video shows... All Ali wanted to do was garner publicity doing a dog and pony show with Wilt -- but he refused to sign to fight him and this video proves it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF57P1uUG0s

Not sure if this area has been looked at in the ongoing Wilt vs Ali debate.... But what exactly had Wilt done in the sport to merit a shot at the biggest name, the biggest payday for the greatest prize in the world?

Had he earned his shot, was he more worthy than Quarry, Bonavena, Patterson or Ellis? Guys who had fought the contenders and earned their place in the rankings.

I mean, put your absurd theory that he would have beaten the greatest heavyweight of all time aside for just a second and tell me, what did a giant basketball player do to earn this shot, other than be really big and good at basketball.
I'm sure the same argument could be made for whoever was playing defensive tackle for the Miami Dolphins in 1970

Who the eff mentioned Wilt again? That troll BoxBuzz or his best ass buddy Kalan? Haven't we given enough space to the Braggart of Basketball?!? It's fuckin lunacy.

davie wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

davie wrote:
Not sure if this area has been looked at in the ongoing Wilt vs Ali debate.... But what exactly had Wilt done in the sport to merit a shot at the biggest name, the biggest payday for the greatest prize in the world?

Had he earned his shot, was he more worthy than Quarry, Bonavena, Patterson or Ellis? Guys who had fought the contenders and earned their place in the rankings.

I mean, put your absurd theory that he would have beaten the greatest heavyweight of all time aside for just a second and tell me, what did a giant basketball player do to earn this shot, other than be really big and good at basketball.
I'm sure the same argument could be made for whoever was playing defensive tackle for the Miami Dolphins in 1970

Who the eff mentioned Wilt again? That troll BoxBuzz or his best ass buddy Kalan? Haven't we given enough space to the Braggart of Basketball?!? It's fuckin lunacy.

Sorry mate, that was kind of my fault, I thought i'd slip a cheeky wee comment in about heavy's of the 70's and dropped Wilts name in

The finger of blame should pointed squarely in my direction

littlepug wrote:Kirkland laing was pretty unique

One of my favourite fighters. I went to several of his fights & I don't think HE even knew what he was going to do from one minute to the next. Absolutely brilliant fighter. Just undisciplined.

Kalan wrote:No thanks... and Ali and Norton never really met a great boxer until they took on Larry Holmes... Of course they lost... Foreman never met a real good boxer until he took on the punchless Jimmy Young... He lost of course... Frazier never met a real good boxer at all... Ali was fair but he got hit a lot.

Chamberlain??? He would have been really good, but he was denied the opportunity... Ali refused to fight him as this video shows... All Ali wanted to do was garner publicity doing a dog and pony show with Wilt -- but he refused to sign to fight him and this video proves it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF57P1uUG0s