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Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 06 Nov 2016, 19:51
by Enlightened-One
lazboy wrote:A narrow minded person, how very irritating.
When you engage in debates and resort to personal insults, it’s a sign that you’ve already “lost.”
lazboy wrote:It’s time to think outside the box. Think supply and demand. Think marketing. Think the effectiveness of marketing, whose job it is to create interest. “There’s no fiscal reason for Mayweather to face GGG” The creative side of your brain needs enlightening!
All you’ve done is articulated several meaningless soundbites, since everything you’ve said applies to all fights.
lazboy wrote:Is it “utterly absurd”, with an exclamation mark for this fight to be considered?
From a fiscal perspective, the answer to that question is “YES”.
lazboy wrote:Was Sugar Ray Leonard utterly absurd for facing Marvin Hagler in a classic super fight. I find this to be the most relevant.
This is actually irrelevant, since the circumstances are completely different. If Money May decides to fight again, he’ll be forty years of age… and he’ll be much smaller than Golovkin. If “size” wasn’t an issue, why did Team GGG claim that they’d only face Ward at 164lbs?

Also, I am simply arguing against your original claim about Golovkin being Mayweather's most lucrative opponent, which is absurd and has no correlation to your Leonard-Hagler scenario.
lazboy wrote:Yet you have ignored this and other more recent examples plainly in view. Was it absurd when Kell Brook fought Gennady Golovkin? Was it absurd when Amir Khan fought Canelo Alvarez. Both the most popular fights of 2016 as you well know.
I ignore things that are irrelevant. You previously argued that GGG would be the “most lucrative” opponent for Mayweather Jr, when this is clearly not the case. Floyd is able to face men his own size that present less risk, but also provide better paydays than what GGG could. For Khan and Brook, they couldn’t have earned those paydays facing anyone else.
lazboy wrote:Perhaps in your haste to be heard you can be excused some misgivings.
More insults, which is music to my ears, due to the fact that it’s easier to undermine someone who argues with emotion rather than facts.
lazboy wrote:In my opinion, and this is an opinion piece, this is the best fight for Mayweather money wise if it has a rematch clause.
You’re entitled to have an opinion… and it is also your prerogative for that opinion to bear no relation to reality.

For the record, I believe that a GGG-Mayweather fight would be sure fire commercial success and a massive PPV event. However, as per my original statement, Floyd is capable of earning more money by facing easier and less threatening opponents.

Mayweather Jr. will be forty years of age in a few months, he’s been a professional for more than twenty years and he is entitled to gain the “50-0” record by sharing the ring against a beatable marquee name that is his own size, whilst supplying a bigger payday than what he could earn facing Golovkin.
lazboy wrote:As for your comment regarding Mayweather fighting Tyson Fury, don’t be absurd!
It seems that you’ve either misunderstood my post or you are trying to employ straw man debating tactics, by misrepresenting my claims to make it easier for you to attack. So which one is it?

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 06 Nov 2016, 20:07
by BAD INTENTIONS
gilgamesh wrote:They couldn't pay Floyd enough to fight GGG so people might as well quit kidding themselves about that one.

Floyd vs Pac 2 would still do big business. Us Boxing diehards would sh*t on it, but it'd still go over well with the Public in general.
The same US diehards that WANTED to see Wlad/Fury II?
The same US diehards who say money isn't a factor when comparing PBC and HBO?

All of the guys I'm interested in seeing Manny fight are with Haymon.
So, instead of another Top Rank circle jerk, I'd rather Floyd/Manny II.

Maidana showed that Manny was the problem in the first fight.
He'd have to make his effort look different, or retire.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 06 Nov 2016, 20:41
by boxing_rocks
Enlightened-One wrote:why did Team GGG claim that they’d only face Ward at 164lbs?
Do you HAVE to lie ?

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 06 Nov 2016, 20:57
by lazboy
Enlightened-One wrote:
lazboy wrote:A narrow minded person, how very irritating.
When you engage in debates and resort to personal insults, it’s a sign that you’ve already “lost.”
lazboy wrote:It’s time to think outside the box. Think supply and demand. Think marketing. Think the effectiveness of marketing, whose job it is to create interest. “There’s no fiscal reason for Mayweather to face GGG” The creative side of your brain needs enlightening!
All you’ve done is articulated several meaningless soundbites, since everything you’ve said applies to all fights.
lazboy wrote:Is it “utterly absurd”, with an exclamation mark for this fight to be considered?
From a fiscal perspective, the answer to that question is “YES”.
lazboy wrote:Was Sugar Ray Leonard utterly absurd for facing Marvin Hagler in a classic super fight. I find this to be the most relevant.
This is actually irrelevant, since the circumstances are completely different. If Money May decides to fight again, he’ll be forty years of age… and he’ll be much smaller than Golovkin. If “size” wasn’t an issue, why did Team GGG claim that they’d only face Ward at 164lbs?

Also, I am simply arguing against your original claim about Golovkin being Mayweather's most lucrative opponent, which is absurd and has no correlation to your Leonard-Hagler scenario.
lazboy wrote:Yet you have ignored this and other more recent examples plainly in view. Was it absurd when Kell Brook fought Gennady Golovkin? Was it absurd when Amir Khan fought Canelo Alvarez. Both the most popular fights of 2016 as you well know.
I ignore things that are irrelevant. You previously argued that GGG would be the “most lucrative” opponent for Mayweather Jr, when this is clearly not the case. Floyd is able to face men his own size that present less risk, but also provide better paydays than what GGG could. For Khan and Brook, they couldn’t have earned those paydays facing anyone else.
lazboy wrote:Perhaps in your haste to be heard you can be excused some misgivings.
More insults, which is music to my ears, due to the fact that it’s easier to undermine someone who argues with emotion rather than facts.
lazboy wrote:In my opinion, and this is an opinion piece, this is the best fight for Mayweather money wise if it has a rematch clause.
You’re entitled to have an opinion… and it is also your prerogative for that opinion to bear no relation to reality.

For the record, I believe that a GGG-Mayweather fight would be sure fire commercial success and a massive PPV event. However, as per my original statement, Floyd is capable of earning more money by facing easier and less threatening opponents.

Mayweather Jr. will be forty years of age in a few months, he’s been a professional for more than twenty years and he is entitled to gain the “50-0” record by sharing the ring against a beatable marquee name that is his own size, whilst supplying a bigger payday than what he could earn facing Golovkin.
lazboy wrote:As for your comment regarding Mayweather fighting Tyson Fury, don’t be absurd!
It seems that you’ve either misunderstood my post or you are trying to employ straw man debating tactics, by misrepresenting my claims to make it easier for you to attack. So which one is it?
Have I insulted you or exposed you? You’ll have to think about that one ;)

I’m glad that some of your answer is agreeable.
“For the record, I believe that a GGG-Mayweather fight would be sure fire commercial success and a massive PPV event.” So it’s not as absurd to suggest? Either you are narrow minded and I called it thus or you initiated a personal attack. Your initial response to my opinion, not showing it any merit, completely shutting it down without considering it but now it seems you have considered it and given it some weight, if you’d only said that to begin with. So your initial reply to my response I believe was either narrow minded or personal attack unless I misunderstood the tone of your writing. By the way, when an argument becomes personal you’ve already lost.

I don’t understand your age argument. I didn’t address it in the previous reply. I believe Mayweather’s age could only help the popularity of this fight not hinder it as it seems you are trying to explain. Of course he is entitled to make it to 50 and 0 with a lesser opponent but he is also entitled to fight Golovkin, as Sugar Ray fought Hagler, as Brook for Golovkin. He is the (now unofficial) pound for pound king after all.

Thank you for acknowledging I have an opinion. You have one too and are entitled to it. It is your opinion that he would receive greater pay days elsewhere. You reference Cotto, Khan and Kell Brook among others. Those mentioned are coming of quite big losses. As for Canelo and Pac. Well Pac I addressed initially. Canelo has already been defeated by Mayweather and to fight the person he ducked, Golovkin, how very interesting that would be.

I believe Golovkin would be the bigger draw, you don’t, that’s fine. I just hope you don’t believe you opinion is fact. In your first response you say that with “almost certainty” other fights would make more and even provide a stat (50% more), haha Sorry I do find that funny. You seem to be very confident but again, it’s an opinion and you don’t know. I also don’t know, but I have worded my response and initial statement as an opinion piece whereas I don’t see that you have. Maybe its down to your writing style as written communication has its limitations.

Yes I think I have misunderstood your Tyson Fury comment. Was that an attempt at humor or were you trying to mock me? Or something else? Making the claim that Mayweather fighting Golovkin is as absurd as Mayweather fighting Fury? If this is the case, remember your rule about when arguments become personal. Mocking someone crosses that line. ;)

Again, I’m glad we do agree in some respect, that this could be a massive PPV hit. After watching a dismal Pacquiao last night and hearing rumors of a Mayweather comeback I thought to myself, this is a perfect fight. This is here to be made. Again, it may not be made, but it’s in the wings. A superfight ready to be made. A dream fight.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 06 Nov 2016, 20:58
by cj
I came back after ages to post something else and now I see this post.
The whole world knows the true story of :
PBF,HBO, CineMax and few other big names sat on the round table
May weather say : guys the only way I would fight Pacquiao if you ya'll give it to me , that's it, no other way .
HBO, CineMax and others said : we all gonna make money this way and this is the only way to make the fight happen .
The whole world noticed Pacquiao won the fight.
Alright guys J/K.. this was my own observations , but it sounds like a lots of people agree with me :lol:

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 06 Nov 2016, 21:14
by Lackeos
SenorPipino wrote:(BTW, did I read right. Does Lackeos want to see a Mayweather-Lara bout? I love Floyd but I have to admit that such a match up would probably put even the referee to sleep. Mayweather-Lara as a PPV attraction? The mind boggles.)
It's extremely boring watching Mayweather fight fighters with shorter reaches, a lot less skill, sometimes less height as well, and the security of knowing that judges always give him the benefit of the doubt. Lots of running, lots of no one hitting anyone, and no urgency for Mayweather to proactively try to score points. Lara is taller, longer reach, and skill is in a similar ballpark. It would be a match-up where Mayweather doesn't easily outbox his foe like he usually does, and the more Lara scores points, the more urgency Mayweather would have to score points of his own. I usually fall asleep by round 7 of most of Mayweather's fights, but that's generally because there's 0 suspense. I'm always going to be wide awake and invested in any fight that's important, suspenseful, and competitive. Watching Mayweather box someone like Robert Guerrero does not fit that description. Lara on the other hand probably does.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 06 Nov 2016, 21:48
by Enlightened-One
boxing_rocks wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:why did Team GGG claim that they’d only face Ward at 164lbs?
Do you HAVE to lie ?
I have previously posted videos of Loeffler, Sanchez and Golovkin multiple times in response to your claims that I'm lying and you ignore them.

So every single time I repost the same set of videos, you ignore them and persistently label me as a liar.

It's not my fault you refuse to recognise the words uttered by Loeffler, Sanchez and Golovkin.

Do I really need to show you the same set of videos for the fifth time?

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 06 Nov 2016, 22:16
by Kalan
GGG-MAY would generate the biggest PPV in History because Floyd would get murdered -- and that's what most people would love to see.

However, Floyd is not stupid.. It would be insane for Floyd to fight Golovkin, and he knows what would happen... He won't fight Pacquiao again either because that was the most non-happening fight since Byrd-Williamson.. Nobody wants a repeat of that crap.. Pacquiao looked fair against Vargas and that's his speed. He hasn't knocked anyone out since 2009 and he just lacks P4P power... If he fought Spence, Brook, Thurman or Crawford he would get knocked out -- and Porter would beat him bad over 12..

Same with Floyd -- May or Pac will NOT fight ANY of the top Welterweights... Errol Spence showed Floyd what it's all about when he sparred with him and beat Floyd up... Reporters asked Errol "What was it like sparring with Mayweather???" ... Spence.. "It gave me tremendous confidence."

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 05:47
by Enlightened-One
lazboy wrote:Have I insulted you or exposed you? You’ll have to think about that one
The attempt was made and I quoted your words. You don't know me, but you accused of being a “narrow-minded” “irritating” person.
lazboy wrote:“For the record, I believe that a GGG-Mayweather fight would be sure fire commercial success and a massive PPV event.” So it’s not as absurd to suggest?
I am simply arguing against your original claim about Golovkin being Mayweather's most lucrative opponent, because he isn’t, hence my belief about your statement being “absurd”.

If you wish to renounce and revise your original claim, by simply stating the obvious in that a Mayweather-Golovkin bout would do “big business”, then we’d be on the same page.
lazboy wrote:Thank you for acknowledging I have an opinion. You have one too and are entitled to it. It is your opinion that he would receive greater pay days elsewhere. You reference Cotto, Khan and Kell Brook among others. Those mentioned are coming of quite big losses. As for Canelo and Pac. Well Pac I addressed initially. Canelo has already been defeated by Mayweather and to fight the person he ducked, Golovkin, how very interesting that would be.
Whilst a GGG-Mayweather bout would indeed be “interesting”, my stance about the likes of Pacquiao and Canelo being “bigger” fighters fiscally is factually correct based on PPV buys. Even when they do lose, their commercial figures still exceed GGG’s. The numbers are irrefutable.
lazboy wrote:I believe Golovkin would be the bigger draw, you don’t, that’s fine. I just hope you don’t believe you opinion is fact.
“Opinions” are not synonymous with “facts”. That being said, my opinion is based on my interpretation of the facts that I have regularly submitted to this forum. The understated 50% figure was based on historical PPV buy-rates (i.e. GGG’s only US PPV was 150K, which is a small percentage of the numbers achieved by the aforementioned fighters).

Of course, there’s a possibility that I could be “wrong”, but at least I’ve done my due diligence, whereas you’re coming from a position of gut instinct.
lazboy wrote:Yes I think I have misunderstood your Tyson Fury comment. Was that an attempt at humor or were you trying to mock me? Or something else? Making the claim that Mayweather fighting Golovkin is as absurd as Mayweather fighting Fury? If this is the case, remember your rule about when arguments become personal. Mocking someone crosses that line.
I thought I made myself clear, but I’ll try to articulate the concept I was trying to convey in a different way, in order to make myself clear…

People keep raising the bar for Floyd Mayweather, because they don’t like him… and I can understand this, because he has traditionally adopted a villainous persona as a means of self-promotion.

So a lot of casual fight fans want to see him lose at all cost, which leads them to accuse him of “ducking” much bigger opponents… and they cite Floyd’s “TBE” claims as their sole justification for setting unreasonable challenges for him to prove this claim.

I believe that if Money May fought and defeated Golovkin, which is an unfair challenge (based on his size and age), they’d undermine his feat by claiming GGG was hyped. So then they’d demand that he’d have to face someone even bigger to justify his "TBE" moniker, like Sergey Kovalev… and the whole cycle would continue until Mayweather either loses or gradually moves up the various weight classes to eventually defeat a world champion heavyweight (which isn't going to happen).

Simply put, people want to see Floyd lose and will never be happy until this happens, hence their seemingly endless demands that he faces an opponent that he’d likely lose against.

In your first post in this thread, you propose a two-fight series between Mayweather and Golovkin, you claim that when Floyd gets KO’d in the first GGG bout, the rematch would do even bigger numbers. However, the very same logic would apply to any fighter that manages to beat Mayweather (i.e. those that I've mentioned that already achieve much better PPV buy-rates than Golovkin).

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 06:22
by lazboy
Enlightened-One wrote:
lazboy wrote:Have I insulted you or exposed you? You’ll have to think about that one
The attempt was made and I quoted your words. You don't know me, but you accused of being a “narrow-minded” “irritating” person.
lazboy wrote:“For the record, I believe that a GGG-Mayweather fight would be sure fire commercial success and a massive PPV event.” So it’s not as absurd to suggest?
I am simply arguing against your original claim about Golovkin being Mayweather's most lucrative opponent, because he isn’t, hence my belief about your statement being “absurd”.

If you wish to renounce and revise your original claim, by simply stating the obvious in that a Mayweather-Golovkin bout would do “big business”, then we’d be on the same page.
lazboy wrote:Thank you for acknowledging I have an opinion. You have one too and are entitled to it. It is your opinion that he would receive greater pay days elsewhere. You reference Cotto, Khan and Kell Brook among others. Those mentioned are coming of quite big losses. As for Canelo and Pac. Well Pac I addressed initially. Canelo has already been defeated by Mayweather and to fight the person he ducked, Golovkin, how very interesting that would be.
Whilst a GGG-Mayweather bout would indeed be “interesting”, my stance about the likes of Pacquiao and Canelo being “bigger” fighters fiscally is factually correct based on PPV buys. Even when they do lose, their commercial figures still exceed GGG’s. The numbers are irrefutable.
lazboy wrote:I believe Golovkin would be the bigger draw, you don’t, that’s fine. I just hope you don’t believe you opinion is fact.
“Opinions” are not synonymous with “facts”. That being said, my opinion is based on my interpretation of the facts that I have regularly submitted to this forum. The understated 50% figure was based on historical PPV buy-rates (i.e. GGG’s only US PPV was 150K, which is a small percentage of the numbers achieved by the aforementioned fighters).

Of course, there’s a possibility that I could be “wrong”, but at least I’ve done my due diligence, whereas you’re coming from a position of gut instinct.
lazboy wrote:Yes I think I have misunderstood your Tyson Fury comment. Was that an attempt at humor or were you trying to mock me? Or something else? Making the claim that Mayweather fighting Golovkin is as absurd as Mayweather fighting Fury? If this is the case, remember your rule about when arguments become personal. Mocking someone crosses that line.
I thought I made myself clear, but I’ll try to articulate the concept I was trying to convey in a different way, in order to make myself clear…

People keep raising the bar for Floyd Mayweather, because they don’t like him… and I can understand this, because he has traditionally adopted a villainous persona as a means of self-promotion.

So a lot of casual fight fans want to see him lose at all cost, which leads them to accuse him of “ducking” much bigger opponents… and they cite Floyd’s “TBE” claims as their sole justification for setting unreasonable challenges for him to prove this claim.

I believe that if Money May fought and defeated Golovkin, which is an unfair challenge (based on his size and age), they’d undermine his feat by claiming GGG was hyped. So then they’d demand that he’d have to face someone even bigger to justify his "TBE" moniker, like Sergey Kovalev… and the whole cycle would continue until Mayweather either loses or gradually moves up the various weight classes to eventually defeat a world champion heavyweight (which isn't going to happen).

Simply put, people want to see Floyd lose and will never be happy until this happens, hence their seemingly endless demands that he faces an opponent that he’d likely lose against.

In your first post in this thread, you propose a two-fight series between Mayweather and Golovkin, you claim that when Floyd gets KO’d in the first GGG bout, the rematch would do even bigger numbers. However, the very same logic would apply to any fighter that manages to beat Mayweather (i.e. those that I've mentioned that already achieve much better PPV buy-rates than Golovkin).
We can only speculate. Opinions are opinions not facts. I'm moving on from this, I hope you can to.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 07:45
by caldo2025
lazboy wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:
lazboy wrote:After watching a dismal performance by Pacquia it doesn’t make sense for that rematch to happen. It will be repeat not revenge. Regardless of that, Money may is all about the $, I suspect, (without knowing today’s numbers), Manny’s popularity has declined.

If money May returns and he’s still about Money, the most lucrative fight for him and the biggest fight in boxing is two fights with the same opponent. Mayweather should fight Gennady Golovkin with a rematch clause.

The fight is easy to market.

What happens when Mayweather gets knocked out? His rematch is an even bigger PPV affair. (Tyson – Holyfield 2). Simple.
Dismal performance? You are probably a new fan to the sport if you would classify that as "dismal" when a 37 year old guy puts on a clinic against a 27 year old boxer in his prime and takes him to school to grab a world title.

#1 you're dreaming if you think Floyd will ever agree to fight GGG. That's ridiculous. IF Floyd comes back, it's going to be against a pillow punching puff piece. The guy was negotiating against a UFC fighter for god sake. He's not going to take on a white whale like GGG at this stage. No way.

Floyd is retired...let's just get over this and talk about fights that CAN happen.
It was Dismal with a capital D. A clinic? That was a clinic? :clap: If you think that was a clinic then you have a dismal boxing outlook. Now whenever I read your username I'm going to think Dismal. Yes, Pacquiao performance was Caldo2025.

If Floyd comes back he's going against a pillow punching puff piece? Is that what he normally does? So Pacquiao, Canelo, Maidana, Cotto are all pillow punch pieces? That's Caldo2025 logic. Translated - That's dismal logic.
Floyd spent months negotiating his comeback fight with a guy that wasn't even a licensed professional boxer so that's where my logic comes and pillow comment came from. I'm sure you would still put on your I LOVE FLOYD 4EVA shirt come fight night because you're nothing but a floyd rump swab. I've learned that you can't discuss anything intelligently with your kind so i'll move on now because you are a boring individual without an original thought in your squash.

The only thing dismal is your boxing IQ. Do me a favor and stay away from reading anything with my username in it because the subject matter will definitely be over your head. Come back in a few years and see if you're smart enough for it but right now, you do not make the cut. sorry.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 08:12
by Badhusker
Lackeos wrote:
SenorPipino wrote:(BTW, did I read right. Does Lackeos want to see a Mayweather-Lara bout? I love Floyd but I have to admit that such a match up would probably put even the referee to sleep. Mayweather-Lara as a PPV attraction? The mind boggles.)
It's extremely boring watching Mayweather fight fighters with shorter reaches, a lot less skill, sometimes less height as well, and the security of knowing that judges always give him the benefit of the doubt. Lots of running, lots of no one hitting anyone, and no urgency for Mayweather to proactively try to score points. Lara is taller, longer reach, and skill is in a similar ballpark. It would be a match-up where Mayweather doesn't easily outbox his foe like he usually does, and the more Lara scores points, the more urgency Mayweather would have to score points of his own. I usually fall asleep by round 7 of most of Mayweather's fights, but that's generally because there's 0 suspense. I'm always going to be wide awake and invested in any fight that's important, suspenseful, and competitive. Watching Mayweather box someone like Robert Guerrero does not fit that description. Lara on the other hand probably does.

SenorPipino is right. Lara vs Floyd would even be more boring using the standards of most boxing fans. Add to that the low popularity of Lara....not happening. GGG's team uses the excuse that Lara is not well enough known to be a good fight. Lara would be probably #50 on Floyd's list, and probably #100 on most fan's list of wanting to see.

I see Floyd having two options; re-match with Pac or Garcia if he wins. Both are long shots. I hope he stays retired. It never ceases to amaze me how many think Floyd must fight prime guys to "prove" himself at age 40, and/or give up 20lbs. Pac will fight Crawford or Lomo next.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 13:14
by gilgamesh
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:They couldn't pay Floyd enough to fight GGG so people might as well quit kidding themselves about that one.

Floyd vs Pac 2 would still do big business. Us Boxing diehards would sh*t on it, but it'd still go over well with the Public in general.
The same US diehards that WANTED to see Wlad/Fury II?
The same US diehards who say money isn't a factor when comparing PBC and HBO?

All of the guys I'm interested in seeing Manny fight are with Haymon.
So, instead of another Top Rank circle jerk, I'd rather Floyd/Manny II.

Maidana showed that Manny was the problem in the first fight.
He'd have to make his effort look different, or retire.
I don't think anybody's feelings were hurt because Wlad vs Fury 2 didn't happen

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 15:35
by actjac
He will fight in this order:
Conor McGregor
Manny Pacquiao
Gennady Golovkin

and Mayweather will become the first athlete in history to have earned $1 billion.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 15:54
by darkstar81
The biggest fight would be Mayweather v Pacquiao 2

I'd watch it the next day on youtube

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 18:51
by ClivePatrickLyons
lazboy wrote:After watching a dismal performance by Pacquia it doesn’t make sense for that rematch to happen. It will be repeat not revenge. Regardless of that, Money may is all about the $, I suspect, (without knowing today’s numbers), Manny’s popularity has declined.

If money May returns and he’s still about Money, the most lucrative fight for him and the biggest fight in boxing is two fights with the same opponent. Mayweather should fight Gennady Golovkin with a rematch clause.

The fight is easy to market.

What happens when Mayweather gets knocked out? His rematch is an even bigger PPV affair. (Tyson – Holyfield 2). Simple.

GGG THEY WOULD NOT TOUCH HIM WITH A TEN FOOT POLE :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 19:06
by Like a Boss
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
lazboy wrote:After watching a dismal performance by Pacquia it doesn’t make sense for that rematch to happen. It will be repeat not revenge. Regardless of that, Money may is all about the $, I suspect, (without knowing today’s numbers), Manny’s popularity has declined.

If money May returns and he’s still about Money, the most lucrative fight for him and the biggest fight in boxing is two fights with the same opponent. Mayweather should fight Gennady Golovkin with a rematch clause.

The fight is easy to market.

What happens when Mayweather gets knocked out? His rematch is an even bigger PPV affair. (Tyson – Holyfield 2). Simple.

GGG THEY WOULD NOT TOUCH HIM WITH A TEN FOOT POLE :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Exactly :TU:

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 19:08
by Like a Boss
75% chance of a Pacquiao rematch according to Arum

“Floyd called us and asked for tickets,” Arum said.

“It’s a great sign. I’d love for the fight to happen. I’d make it 75% that it happens.”

“Based on my experience, I feel like Floyd’s getting the itch to come back.”

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 19:12
by lazboy
Like a Boss wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
lazboy wrote:After watching a dismal performance by Pacquia it doesn’t make sense for that rematch to happen. It will be repeat not revenge. Regardless of that, Money may is all about the $, I suspect, (without knowing today’s numbers), Manny’s popularity has declined.

If money May returns and he’s still about Money, the most lucrative fight for him and the biggest fight in boxing is two fights with the same opponent. Mayweather should fight Gennady Golovkin with a rematch clause.

The fight is easy to market.

What happens when Mayweather gets knocked out? His rematch is an even bigger PPV affair. (Tyson – Holyfield 2). Simple.

GGG THEY WOULD NOT TOUCH HIM WITH A TEN FOOT POLE :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Exactly :TU:
I can't say your wrong. But this is a dream fight. The timings right for it. But it's boxing, so great fights don't get made. I'd pay 200 dollars to watch this on a blank and white tv.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 19:15
by Like a Boss
I think there is more chance of Floyd fighting McGregor than GGG, and the McGregor thing was purely a publicity stunt.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 19:38
by fightseer
Since nobody seems to want to fight Errol Spence, why not Mayweather. "The Student vs the Professor". I would like to see that. They say that Spence gave Mayweather all he could handle when he was part of his training camp.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 19:41
by lazboy
fightseer wrote:Since nobody seems to want to fight Errol Spence, why not Mayweather. "The Student vs the Professor". I would like to see that. They say that Spence gave Mayweather all he could handle when he was part of his training camp.
That's another great fight.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 19:48
by BAD INTENTIONS
actjac wrote:He will fight in this order:
Conor McGregor
Manny Pacquiao
Gennady Golovkin

and Mayweather will become the first athlete in history to have earned $1 billion.
If money was the only object, it would be Manny, McGregor, & Canelo.

GGG as an opponent for Floyd is basically someone saying, "I just wanna see Floyd lose".

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 19:55
by lazboy
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
actjac wrote:He will fight in this order:
Conor McGregor
Manny Pacquiao
Gennady Golovkin

and Mayweather will become the first athlete in history to have earned $1 billion.
If money was the only object, it would be Manny, McGregor, & Canelo.

GGG as an opponent for Floyd is basically someone saying, "I just wanna see Floyd lose".
It's a challenge. Don't you like seeing someone challenge themselves. He's beaten manny, he's beaten canelo.

Re: Mayweather wants the biggest fight in boxing for his return, this is it.

Posted: 07 Nov 2016, 20:08
by ClivePatrickLyons
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
actjac wrote:He will fight in this order:
Conor McGregor
Manny Pacquiao
Gennady Golovkin

and Mayweather will become the first athlete in history to have earned $1 billion.
If money was the only object, it would be Manny, McGregor, & Canelo.

GGG as an opponent for Floyd is basically someone saying, "I just wanna see Floyd lose".

I think Floyd would win that fight.............well that's who i'd be putting my money on :box: Floyd style is the style to beat GGG.