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jamesmcdonnell wrote:

CaptainSpacerod wrote:It's all about levels. Manny might be faded but he's still got enough to completely bamboozle Brook

I don't think so - Brook would hit him a lot, and hard too. I think Pacman might get a proper kicking off of Brook at this stage.

Manny looked pretty ordinary the other night, his output has declined a lot, because he can't pull the trigger, he gets himself into position pretty well, but then can't let his hands go like he used to.

I disagree pal. I think Manny is still too quick of hand and foot for Brook.

Factor in how much making 147 will take out of Brook and, after his beatdown by GGG, if he will now be reluctant to pull the trigger and I think Manny has a relatively easy night's work.

Manny still has quick feet, but he throws single shots these days, he didnt land more than a handful of combos the other night against a flat footed opponent with little head movememt. Handspeed isnt relevant if you hardly throw any punches. After 4 rounds manny's output seemed to drop off dramatically. Brook will make weight just fine, and we have mo evidence yet to suggest he is gunshy after GGG. after all he always knew GGG was a very very big ask. Pacquiao would feel like nothing by comparison.

littlepug wrote:

BigDoofus wrote:

littlepug wrote:think khan would pose manny more problems than brook at this point

Considering that a large percentage of your recent posts slate Kell Brook, this post doesn't surprise me.

will you just fcuk off !!! your talking about 1 effing thread, apart from that thread ive barely mentioned him, its you that keeps getting his knickers in a twist you cretin, is this how you behave in real life with people that don't agree with your point of view ? if your unable to engage in an intelligent debate then don't bother replying to any of my posts

Is telling someone to fcuk off and calling someone a cretin considered intelligent debate in Halifax?

BigDoofus wrote:

littlepug wrote:

BigDoofus wrote:
Considering that a large percentage of your recent posts slate Kell Brook, this post doesn't surprise me.

will you just fcuk off !!! your talking about 1 effing thread, apart from that thread ive barely mentioned him, its you that keeps getting his knickers in a twist you cretin, is this how you behave in real life with people that don't agree with your point of view ? if your unable to engage in an intelligent debate then don't bother replying to any of my posts

Is telling someone to fcuk off and calling someone a cretin considered intelligent debate in Halifax?

Now now, play nicely you two.

Brook doesn't deserve the scalp and to my money getting way too much credit for his performance against GGG

lefthook82 wrote:Brook doesn't deserve the scalp and to my money getting way too much credit for his performance against GGG

Never mind deserve, he isn't going to get it.

He doesn't bring anywhere near enough to the table to make it worthwhile.

Arum will look for either cash out against Mayweather, which is looking like it's back on the table, or a few retirement fights against opposition he can beat, and go out in a massive swansong in Asia somewhere.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

lefthook82 wrote:Brook doesn't deserve the scalp and to my money getting way too much credit for his performance against GGG

Never mind deserve, he isn't going to get it.

He doesn't bring anywhere near enough to the table to make it worthwhile.

Arum will look for either cash out against Mayweather, which is looking like it's back on the table, or a few retirement fights against opposition he can beat, and go out in a massive swansong in Asia somewhere.

To be fair I wonder how much Pac made from fights like Vargas and Algieri. Pacquaio coming to this country would be a massive stadium fight.

That said, it won't happen. Weight-wise where would it happen? Hard to see Pac going overseas and up to 154 for it. Could be a catch I guess. And I think the Mayweather rematch will happen. Too much money, no way Floyd's ego sees him go out on 49-0, a 'Pac was injured/how faded is Floyd' line to hook 'em in and, besides all that, even if it does half the money the first fight did it's absolutely massive.

BigDoofus wrote:

littlepug wrote:

BigDoofus wrote:
Considering that a large percentage of your recent posts slate Kell Brook, this post doesn't surprise me.

will you just fcuk off !!! your talking about 1 effing thread, apart from that thread ive barely mentioned him, its you that keeps getting his knickers in a twist you cretin, is this how you behave in real life with people that don't agree with your point of view ? if your unable to engage in an intelligent debate then don't bother replying to any of my posts

Is telling someone to fcuk off and calling someone a cretin considered intelligent debate in Halifax?

Listen mate I can't even be arsed to be civil to you anymore, you pepper your replies to me with personal info about me on boxing forum, what am I supposed to do with that ? what you are trying to achieve is beyond me but I think we both know you've crossed the line into unacceptable behaviour

Manny,too quick for brook,brook doesnt like getting out of 2nd gear and he would be forced to with manny

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

lefthook82 wrote:Brook doesn't deserve the scalp and to my money getting way too much credit for his performance against GGG

Never mind deserve, he isn't going to get it.

He doesn't bring anywhere near enough to the table to make it worthwhile.

Arum will look for either cash out against Mayweather, which is looking like it's back on the table, or a few retirement fights against opposition he can beat, and go out in a massive swansong in Asia somewhere.

That's a fair point.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

BigDoofus wrote:

littlepug wrote: will you just fcuk off !!! your talking about 1 effing thread, apart from that thread ive barely mentioned him, its you that keeps getting his knickers in a twist you cretin, is this how you behave in real life with people that don't agree with your point of view ? if your unable to engage in an intelligent debate then don't bother replying to any of my posts

Is telling someone to fcuk off and calling someone a cretin considered intelligent debate in Halifax?

Now now, play nicely you two.

It was a genuine question.

http://www.ilivehere.co.uk/halifax-west-yorkshire.html

Pacman a class above

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Pacman a class above

Was. He's old now, and 5 years past his prime.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Pacman a class above

Was. He's old now, and 5 years past his prime.

And Kell Brook besides GGG he's fought fighter's that seriously Freddy wouldn't use as sparring partner's for Pacman.

http://www.BS.com/kell-brook-i ... fy--110594
http://www.BS.com/manny-pacqui ... ht--110624

Brook beats Pacquiao now. Brooks is seriously good and under-rated, Pacquiao is past his prime. Brook wins.

Agree. I think Brook would have beaten him two years ago.

Kell is in danger of being a great fighter who never gets a great win. He needs another big fight in 2017 and to win it.

Pac's a very good welterweight but he's a long, long way from being a great one.

CaptainSpacerod wrote:It's all about levels. Manny might be faded but he's still got enough to completely bamboozle Brook

Agreed, really surprised my brethren on here believe Brook could win.

Hearn has contacted Arum to feel out Brook vs. Pacquiao - http://www.BS.com/arum-pacquia ... en--112500

Manny by decision

I think Manny would probably still outhustle Brook, although his output has diminished a bit, he still works harder than Kell, and I can't see Kell putting much of a dent in him really, or throwing enough to win.

its possible - http://www.BS.com/manny-pacqui ... rn--112543

is Brook still favoured after Mannys' performance lastnight?

Apparently I wrote in November 2016 that Brook beats Pacquiao on points at this stage of their careers. After last night, I'm even more convinced of that - Pacquiao should really retire.