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Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 09 Nov 2016, 13:44
by BitPlayer
A lot of boxers have tons of losses, but the ones with very few knockouts usually are doing it to make a good living and know what they're doing.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 09 Nov 2016, 14:01
by Cazelo
http://boxrec.com/boxer/630989
Closer to home but apparently he didn't get a fair shake in a few of those
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 09 Nov 2016, 14:53
by Black Sam Bellamy
littlepug wrote:
Any relation to Des Gargano I wonder ?
Son I believe.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 10 Nov 2016, 07:10
by DSW
mimmy123 wrote:cocobongo wrote:Marty Kayes never won BBBOC licensed fight think he has gone on to do okay in unlicensed and MBC ranks though
Fights in the next week I think
Fights my mate Craig Kennerdale on 4th December.
Rematch from when Craig beat him a few months ago in Bury.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 10 Nov 2016, 07:30
by Mimmy
DSW wrote:mimmy123 wrote:cocobongo wrote:Marty Kayes never won BBBOC licensed fight think he has gone on to do okay in unlicensed and MBC ranks though
Fights in the next week I think
Fights my mate Craig Kennerdale on 4th December.
Rematch from when Craig beat him a few months ago in Bury.
Ive noticed the bill on Lee Murtaghs facebook page.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 11 Nov 2016, 07:44
by Mimmy
Andrew Bloomer
http://boxrec.com/boxer/4529
never won a fight in 20, Naz stopped him too
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 11 Nov 2016, 10:12
by REEVE
Lance verallo 0-25

Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 13 Nov 2016, 08:22
by Lenny Cravats
Not sure if Alexandru Manea has been mentioned yet, but some of us here followed him ten years ago. We named him the 'Anti-Marciano' it seemed like he took ages to get to 0-49. We cheered when we heard he surpassed that record.
He retired without winning from 50+.
Just checked. He didn't box for 18 months when he was 0-48. It was almost as if he was in on it.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 10:09
by gp.
Kit wrote:Latvia's Dmitrijs Avsijenkovs one of my favourite active fighters.
0-29 29 KO's all within the first two rounds!
The man is a beast, but unlike Eric Crumble there is plenty of Youtube footage of this man in action!
Surprised this guy hasn't got more of a cult following.
http://boxrec.com/boxer/537447
Looking at that, he must have the record for being stopped the most times by the same referee.
I like Karriem Respress. Three fights, three first round stoppages, all to Julius Long.
http://boxrec.com/boxer/58874
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 17 Nov 2016, 17:55
by johnnygreaves
See fellas,there's a very big difference between a genuine journeyman. And a fella that can't fight. A man that fights over 20 odd fights a yea against top level & unbeaten fighters Is no mug. The " boxing fans" wanting genuine 50/5 fights every time ,are just being unrealistic. The proper journeymen. Do a much needed & under appreciated job
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 17 Nov 2016, 18:23
by littlepug
johnnygreaves wrote:See fellas,there's a very big difference between a genuine journeyman. And a fella that can't fight. A man that fights over 20 odd fights a yea against top level & unbeaten fighters Is no mug. The " boxing fans" wanting genuine 50/5 fights every time ,are just being unrealistic. The proper journeymen. Do a much needed & under appreciated job
And very much respected by the real fans Johnny

Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 17 Nov 2016, 23:26
by zojo
BitPlayer wrote:A lot of boxers have tons of losses, but the ones with very few knockouts usually are doing it to make a good living and know what they're doing.
How much money do these guys get?
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 17 Nov 2016, 23:36
by gilgamesh
That video from the 1st page is weird. I'm surprised they'd even give you a Pro record off of some sh*t like that. It's just a gym fight.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 14:06
by gp.
gilgamesh wrote:That video from the 1st page is weird. I'm surprised they'd even give you a Pro record off of some sh*t like that. It's just a gym fight.
It's how the Eastern Europeans (and others) build up their records to make themselves look like decent opponents for fighters in wealthier countries. When you see a Latvian come over with a W12-L3 record you think that's respectable. Often however the 12 are all fights like that and the 3 are the 3 fights he has actually made money off as an opponent.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 14:37
by BitPlayer
zojo, wrote:BitPlayer wrote:A lot of boxers have tons of losses, but the ones with very few knockouts usually are doing it to make a good living and know what they're doing.
How much money do these guys get?
I don't know, but a lot more than they would for winning against who they are fighting.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 14:53
by Coco
They earn more because they have the opportunity to fight every week or month whereas the home fighter only fights on his promoters shows.
They can't might regularly I they a getting beat up though, a tough way to make a living.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 16:00
by littlepug
zojo, wrote:BitPlayer wrote:A lot of boxers have tons of losses, but the ones with very few knockouts usually are doing it to make a good living and know what they're doing.
How much money do these guys get?
I would guess they would be lucky to clear a grand fighting the novice boxers and upwards of that doing 8 rounders
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 19 Nov 2016, 03:56
by mickey1975
A pal of mine has earned five grand in the last month.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 19 Nov 2016, 08:22
by Coco
mickey1975 wrote:A pal of mine has earned five grand in the last month.
But of course he probably fought 4 times for that, or a couple of 8 rounders, and if you get stopped you are out of work for the next 4-6 weeks.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 19 Nov 2016, 09:30
by mickey1975
Coco wrote:mickey1975 wrote:A pal of mine has earned five grand in the last month.
But of course he probably fought 4 times for that, or a couple of 8 rounders, and if you get stopped you are out of work for the next 4-6 weeks.
He's out again next week. He thinks he's won the lottery, said he's sparred harder for years for nothing.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 19 Nov 2016, 09:47
by Coco
It's true that a lot of the damage done in boxing is done in the gym.
Re: Never won a fight.
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 10:15
by REEVE
Coco wrote:It's true that a lot of the damage done in boxing is done in the gym.
Yeah I've heard a load of people saying that it puts loads of miles on the clock