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elmersalsa wrote:Tyrell Biggs. After losing to the great Mike Tyson, he was completely forgotten!

He was a good boxer i remember his victory over Snipes.
After Tyson still fights with Lewis and Bowe and disappeared completely.

Norway's Steffen Tangstad.....Mike Spinks showed his what level he was at, but in amongst the humbling by Spinks and a loss to the rather scartchy Anders Ekuland there's also a win over Bugner and surprisingly a draw with one Buster Douglas!

sweetviolenturge wrote:George Chaplan - Good, slick boxer with career victories over Earnie Shavers, Mike Koranicki & what should have been two decision wins over Greg Page as well.

Larry Alexander - Solid, spoiler-type who had decent power & was capable of surprises like his KO of the then-unbeaten prospect Jeff Simms.

Dwain Bonds - Another solid spoiler with skills & some power. Dangerous if overlooked.

Chaplin also gave Cooney a good first round, and gave Dokes some problems. He did lose both fights to Page, though the second one could have been judged a draw.

Page didn't win enough rounds in the two fights combined to get one decision. Two dominating performances from Chaplin.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Page didn't win enough rounds in the two fights combined to get one decision. Two dominating performances from Chaplin.

Chaplin was lucky that Page wasn't in shape, or he would've been kayoed. As it was, Greg had George seriously hurt in both fights.They were close, but George wasn't doing all that much to be that dominant.

They weren't close at all. Greg should have gotten in shape after the first ass kicking. Page was lucky both times, everyone that watched it knows it. Except for you and your silly red writing.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:They weren't close at all. Greg should have gotten in shape after the first ass kicking. Page was lucky both times, everyone that watched it knows it. Except for you and your silly red writing.

They were close, and Page won both of them. I'm sorry if you can't accept the truth.All it was was a red-hot prospect having two difficult fights. You know it's true. And the red writing is dope.

Nile4000 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:They weren't close at all. Greg should have gotten in shape after the first ass kicking. Page was lucky both times, everyone that watched it knows it. Except for you and your silly red writing.

They were close, and Page won both of them. I'm sorry if you can't accept the truth.All it was was a red-hot prospect having two difficult fights. You know it's true. And the red writing is dope.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Nile4000 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:They weren't close at all. Greg should have gotten in shape after the first ass kicking. Page was lucky both times, everyone that watched it knows it. Except for you and your silly red writing.

They were close, and Page won both of them. I'm sorry if you can't accept the truth.All it was was a red-hot prospect having two difficult fights. You know it's true. And the red writing is dope.

And the truth shall set you free.

Nile4000 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Nile4000 wrote:
They were close, and Page won both of them. I'm sorry if you can't accept the truth.All it was was a red-hot prospect having two difficult fights. You know it's true. And the red writing is dope.

And the truth shall set you free.

And here is the final kicker: Page won the world title, Chaplin didn't.

My understanding is that Walter Moore was attending business college there in Chicago and was headed down that road when he made his comeback in his late twenties and was less committed to boxing as his permanent career. He was frustrated with the speed and progress of how Ernie Terrell was moving him and took the Tiger Roy Williams fight against Terrell's advice and that loss was a big blow to Moore getting a big money fight that would've motivated him to continue fighting. I've heard he got a detached retina after his last fight, can't remember if that was Montes or Santemore, and that caused him to hang them up for good. He was a poor man's Joe Frazier, a swarming, brawling infighter without big knockout power, which is why he didn't match up well with Williams.

Controversial wrote:Good thread. I don't know a lot about him but Walter Moore fought in the 70s and was only beaten once in 20 fights by Roy 'Tiger' Willliams by KO. He had a good KO rate with wins over former world title challengers Terry Daniels (KO6) and Jose Roman (UD10) although to be fair they were at the end of their careers. He wasn't going to set the world alight but anyone know why he quit boxing?

Tom Fischer was my favorite fighter growing up in Indy. He was a short, bald Irish heavy with a scowl that would frighten away rabid wolves and plenty of charisma that was the house fighter in Dayton, Ohio. He was a better boxer than you'd expect and gave a prime Quick Tillis a brisk ten rounds and even stunned him a couple of times. Lots of knockouts in small towns, some that aren't even registered on BoxRec.

His big shot was on the Ali-Holmes undercard against Michael Does when Dokes was the hottest young heavy around and Tom admittedly did not perform well, getting thumped around pretty good and stopped in seven. We even had a thread here about it as it's nowhere on tape lists and was never shown on TV despite every one of Dokes' other fights around that time being recorded.

Tom had a Christmas Tree business in Dayton that he was well known for and was also a well known bar bouncer on the side. My understanding is he had an accident and lost a few toes to a chainsaw and fought for years with that limitation.

Thanks for bringing him up. Love when we put the spotlight on the journeymen that kept local boxing back then alive and interesting!

Who is this roughhouse Fischer? Only one I haven't heard of.[/quote]

3 fighters I enjoyed in the early 80s who seemed to always appear on cable tv were.
James Broad
Donnie Long
Tony Fuliangi

tiny_acres wrote:3 fighters I enjoyed in the early 80s who seemed to always appear on cable tv were.
James Broad
Donnie Long
Tony Fuliangi

Broad had the talent & power to go farther than he did, but he never could be consistent with his weight & conditioning & after losses to a couple of contenders of the day, he went downhill & became a mediocre journeyman.
I worked for Don King at the time of Broad's biggest opportunity, an NABF title fight with Tim Witherspoon. But, during fight week here in Buffalo while all the other fighters on the show were winding down their training, fine tuning their skills & such, Broad was spending every night at the Buffalo eateries & at the popular nightspots.
He had a massive appetite & consumed copious amounts of chicken wings, pizza, burgers, beef on wecks, you name he ate it.
On the morning of the fight, he actually consumed an entire dozen donuts after the weigh in in which he tipped the scales at 263 lbs.
Witherspoon wound up whacking out a blubbery Broad in two short rounds. A loss which he never really recovered from.
He had a brief rebound against other journeymen & positioned himself into a title eliminator vs Tony Tucker but was beaten in 12 rounds. After which he became cannon fodder for guys like Greg Page, Razor Ruddock & others.

But what a sweet, funny guy he was. A big teddy bear with a great sense of humor who just liked to have a good time.
Sadly, the good times ended & he became homeless & died at just 43 years old.

- Jim

Dart340 wrote:My understanding is that Walter Moore was attending business college there in Chicago and was headed down that road when he made his comeback in his late twenties and was less committed to boxing as his permanent career. He was frustrated with the speed and progress of how Ernie Terrell was moving him and took the Tiger Roy Williams fight against Terrell's advice and that loss was a big blow to Moore getting a big money fight that would've motivated him to continue fighting. I've heard he got a detached retina after his last fight, can't remember if that was Montes or Santemore, and that caused him to hang them up for good. He was a poor man's Joe Frazier, a swarming, brawling infighter without big knockout power, which is why he didn't match up well with Williams.

Controversial wrote:Good thread. I don't know a lot about him but Walter Moore fought in the 70s and was only beaten once in 20 fights by Roy 'Tiger' Willliams by KO. He had a good KO rate with wins over former world title challengers Terry Daniels (KO6) and Jose Roman (UD10) although to be fair they were at the end of their careers. He wasn't going to set the world alight but anyone know why he quit boxing?

cheers bud

sweetviolenturge wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:3 fighters I enjoyed in the early 80s who seemed to always appear on cable tv were.
James Broad
Donnie Long
Tony Fuliangi

Broad had the talent & power to go farther than he did, but he never could be consistent with his weight & conditioning & after losses to a couple of contenders of the day, he went downhill & became a mediocre journeyman.
I worked for Don King at the time of Broad's biggest opportunity, an NABF title fight with Tim Witherspoon. But, during fight week here in Buffalo while all the other fighters on the show were winding down their training, fine tuning their skills & such, Broad was spending every night at the Buffalo eateries & at the popular nightspots.
He had a massive appetite & consumed copious amounts of chicken wings, pizza, burgers, beef on wecks, you name he ate it.
On the morning of the fight, he actually consumed an entire dozen donuts after the weigh in in which he tipped the scales at 263 lbs.
Witherspoon wound up whacking out a blubbery Broad in two short rounds. A loss which he never really recovered from.
He had a brief rebound against other journeymen & positioned himself into a title eliminator vs Tony Tucker but was beaten in 12 rounds. After which he became cannon fodder for guys like Greg Page, Razor Ruddock & others.

But what a sweet, funny guy he was. A big teddy bear with a great sense of humor who just liked to have a good time.
Sadly, the good times ended & he became homeless & died at just 43 years old.

- Jim

Thanks for sharing that. I did not remember his death

One that nobody ever talks about is Charlie "Candyman" Johnson. He was a well decorated amateur out of Alliance, Ohio that boxed while in college and started a pro career while working as an Chemical Engineer for Monsanto and fought out of wherever they transferred him. He boxed rings around Ibar Arrington up in Seattle, pretty much a shutout, when Arrington was a fringe contender and a big local draw. He fought local pushed fighter Walter Moore up in Chicago and was paintbrushing him before a headbutt caused a TKO loss in four. The only footage of him, and it's rare, is when he took on a young Gerry Cooney up in the Felt Forum and was blasted out in just over 90 seconds, which was a pretty significant win for the raw Cooney compared to the other results on Johnson's record. Johnson served as a mentor/sparring partner for a young Tony Tubbs before moving to Florida and hanging them up.

Are you thinking about Ibar Arrington? They were working towards a big money local showdown between he and Kirkman when Boone decided to hang 'em up.

Jeff Shelburg is another forgotten heavy who racked up a bunch of wins as a smallish puncher in Utah and eventually ran into smooth boxing Marvin Stinson a couple of times. He's breeding and training Falcons or Hawks back home and is pretty well known in that circle.

Gordie Racette was an impressive KO artist out of the British Columbia who ran into a still useful Jimmy Young after stretching out a run of fellow journeymen. There's actually a good documentary on YouTube on his career with plenty of obscure highlights. The preflight interview with once unbeaten Lupe Guerra playing "pro wrestling heel" is classic.

Sanseverino wrote:Well I looked up Koranicki and Randy Stephens. Yeah they both did stuff. Koranicki passed away at 60 in 2012/May. I know some personal history on his opp Jerry Thompkins.
Stephens had quite proud career. L-KO Bernard Mercado L-UD10 Tom Prater W-10 Jose Roman W-tKo Boudreaux W-KO2 Tom Prater Ldec-10 Gerrie Coetzee (19-0-0 then) W-SD 10 Stan Ward L-KO Kallie Knoetze (18-3-0) W TKO Club guy Rodell Dupree. Theunis Kok a good win. L-UD 15 world title v Ocasio & quit the ring after a loss in So. Af. against Piet Crous world title C. (Put Crous down but is stopped himself in same round).
Yeah I can dig all that!

Sanseverino, you forgot about one notable fighter Randy Stephens fought and that was the late great Ken Norton, who knocked Stephens out in the third round.

As a kid I loved Domingo d'elia just off of his name. Never saw him fight but always cheered for him in the rings around the world section. While it's great that we can watch everything now that excitement of waiting for a result or scanning that section for the hidden fairly big fights was pretty cool too.

Not sure if he's forgotten, but I really liked watching Tyrell Biggs.

Kallie Knoetze -Eddie The Animal Lopez - Bill Sharkey - Leroy Jones - Alfredo Evangelista -Lucien Rodriguez - Stan Ward - Lynn Ball

Ossie Ocasio