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Re: Carl Froch was a very underrated fighter, very underrated
Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 15:01
by Enlightened-One
Cent0089 wrote:Maybe he done enough to Hall of fame one day
I think it’s safe to say that Car Froch is going to be a first ballot inductee into the IBHOF, because (in my mind) his career is either comparable (as in, similar accomplishments or almost as good)... or even surpasses the likes of a few of the following men:
• Ken Buchanan
• Héctor Camacho
• Jeff Fenech
• Khaosai Galaxy
• Jake LaMotta
• Mike McCallum
• Terry Norris
• Ken Norton
• Dwight Muhammad Qawi
• Kostya Tszyu
• Arturo Gatti
At the very least, Froch’s legacy is in the same ballpark as the guys listed above.
Re: Carl Froch was a very underrated fighter, very underrated
Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 16:06
by apollo creed
Froch fough everybody in probably the best smw era, period.
Re: Carl Froch was a very underrated fighter, very underrated
Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 16:44
by samwbr
Lackeos wrote:Well... he narrowly beat a pre-prime, weight-drained Pascal. He almost lost to Taylor but got really lucky at the very end. He robbed Dirrell. He did lose to Kessler in their first fight.
So... Froch is a good fighter. It's impressive that he was in as many battles as he was in without getting prematurely ruined, so he is obviously made of tough stuff. He is also ballsy for involving himself in as many tough fights as he has. But he didn't show himself to be head and shoulders better than the other world class fighters of his division, he just outlasted them. Froch seemed to be possibly an inferior boxer to Kessler, Dirrell, Taylor, and Ward; but better than Bute, Groves, Abraham, and pre-prime Pascal. So that makes him about 50/50 against any given world class fighter. Taylor and Kessler were obviously both permanently damaged by their battles with Froch. Dirrell was obviously damaged by being fouled by Abraham. Few SMW's have had the opportunity to participate in as many world class match-ups as Froch has.
How is getting off the floor and scoring a 12th round heavy TKO lucky?
Re: Carl Froch was a very underrated fighter, very underrated
Posted: 14 Nov 2016, 18:33
by Lackeos
samwbr wrote:Lackeos wrote:Well... he narrowly beat a pre-prime, weight-drained Pascal. He almost lost to Taylor but got really lucky at the very end. He robbed Dirrell. He did lose to Kessler in their first fight.
So... Froch is a good fighter. It's impressive that he was in as many battles as he was in without getting prematurely ruined, so he is obviously made of tough stuff. He is also ballsy for involving himself in as many tough fights as he has. But he didn't show himself to be head and shoulders better than the other world class fighters of his division, he just outlasted them. Froch seemed to be possibly an inferior boxer to Kessler, Dirrell, Taylor, and Ward; but better than Bute, Groves, Abraham, and pre-prime Pascal. So that makes him about 50/50 against any given world class fighter. Taylor and Kessler were obviously both permanently damaged by their battles with Froch. Dirrell was obviously damaged by being fouled by Abraham. Few SMW's have had the opportunity to participate in as many world class match-ups as Froch has.
How is getting off the floor and scoring a 12th round heavy TKO lucky?
"How is getting outboxed for an entire fight and then winning right at the final bell with one lucky punch lucky?"
Re: Carl Froch was a very underrated fighter, very underrated
Posted: 15 Nov 2016, 02:04
by samwbr
Lackeos wrote:samwbr wrote:Lackeos wrote:Well... he narrowly beat a pre-prime, weight-drained Pascal. He almost lost to Taylor but got really lucky at the very end. He robbed Dirrell. He did lose to Kessler in their first fight.
So... Froch is a good fighter. It's impressive that he was in as many battles as he was in without getting prematurely ruined, so he is obviously made of tough stuff. He is also ballsy for involving himself in as many tough fights as he has. But he didn't show himself to be head and shoulders better than the other world class fighters of his division, he just outlasted them. Froch seemed to be possibly an inferior boxer to Kessler, Dirrell, Taylor, and Ward; but better than Bute, Groves, Abraham, and pre-prime Pascal. So that makes him about 50/50 against any given world class fighter. Taylor and Kessler were obviously both permanently damaged by their battles with Froch. Dirrell was obviously damaged by being fouled by Abraham. Few SMW's have had the opportunity to participate in as many world class match-ups as Froch has.
How is getting off the floor and scoring a 12th round heavy TKO lucky?
"How is getting outboxed for an entire fight and then winning right at the final bell with one lucky punch lucky?"
It wasn't lucky.