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Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 21:51
by gilgamesh
diddy wrote:Walters is good but made his name beating the corpse of Donaire and Darchinyan. He was fought tooth and nail by Jason Sosa, who is NO Vasyl. Walters has the reach but these guys are essentially the same damn height. This isn't Salido weighing 160 lbs in there.
He beat Jason Sosa. That fight wasn't a draw.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 22:02
by diddy
I thought he won a very close fight. Sometimes you need to watch fights with the sound off. The announcers are awful.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 22:40
by crusader
I think Walters beat Sosa 7-3.

I like Loma here, but it's far from a sure thing.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 22:41
by gilgamesh
diddy wrote:I thought he won a very close fight. Sometimes you need to watch fights with the sound off. The announcers are awful.
If you're not an idiot you can score it right in spite of what the commentators say. I'm not easily lead personally.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 01:43
by SaadOffTheDeck
Astounding that there is a degree of nerd that rewatches fights with the sound off to curb their own bias and have an official card to argue with other nerds. I get it with tanzio, he brags about being objective because he has a mail order bride. The rest of you need to get a life.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 01:57
by ClivePatrickLyons
Walters in 5 :TU:

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 03:22
by crusader
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Walters in 5 :TU:
How do you think the fight plays out? Does Walters break him down from the start? Land a big shot out of nowhere?

Loma hasnt shown chin problems and his D is good, so I don't see Walters taking him out that early. Even little Donaire, who stood and traded with Walters, lasted longer, and his last 2 opponents went the distance. If Walters wins, and IMO there's roughly a 40 prrcent chance of that, I think it's more likely a distance fight in which his strength and agression have put Loma into a shell.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 25 Nov 2016, 20:19
by Badhusker
MaxiBoxc wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
MaxiBoxc wrote: It just mean that you don't know much about Lomachenko, If you think that Vasyl overrated.
And he didn't lose to Salido. He was dirty robbed by the referee and by judges.



You must have missed the article when Lomo said the decision was fair and he blamed himself.
http://www.BS.com/lomachenko-s ... elf--75331

I think Lomo vs Walters will be a great fight, and lean towards Lomo by decision. Walters is better than Salido, but Lomo has improved a lot since then too.
I don't care what Vasyl said about this. I saw that fight and I told you about my opinion.

It wasn't a great fight, it was great robbery in onesided fight. I can't understand how somebody can compare that robbery with future great fight against Walters.

:lol:

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 05:02
by ClivePatrickLyons
crusader wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Walters in 5 :TU:
How do you think the fight plays out? Does Walters break him down from the start? Land a big shot out of nowhere?

Loma hasnt shown chin problems and his D is good, so I don't see Walters taking him out that early. Even little Donaire, who stood and traded with Walters, lasted longer, and his last 2 opponents went the distance. If Walters wins, and IMO there's roughly a 40 prrcent chance of that, I think it's more likely a distance fight in which his strength and agression have put Loma into a shell.

No he lands a big one :lol: or a lucky punch :lol: :TU:

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 05:20
by Counter-puncher
FWIW I see this as being fairly competitive early, until fatigue blunts the impact of Walters' power, from missing shots. I've got it a 116-112/ 117-111 type win.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 05:44
by Tanzio
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Astounding that there is a degree of nerd that rewatches fights with the sound off to curb their own bias and have an official card to argue with other nerds. I get it with tanzio, he brags about being objective because he has a mail order bride. The rest of you need to get a life.
:lol: what a pathetic drunk. Don't you have some second tier mma dry humping to fawn over?

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 08:46
by caldo2025
Not one post here about how unfair it was that Loma received title fights undeservedly. Some idiots are already calling him the best ever. Give me a break. This forum has gone down hill. Loma is good, ok. I get it it. Let the guy build a resume first before we classify whatever he is historically. But when you do place him in a historical spot, please take into account how the title shots were pathetically handed to him while other fighters may go a whole career without getting one. Pathetic.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 09:31
by Cloutov
One of the most popular thing on this forum is surely how a boxer is overrated by a win over Donaire. Walters is a good fighter but certainly no superstar level. Lomachenko is a true elite fighter and is progression has been incredible. I see a fight where we will have the first four round evenly match and then Vasyl will win 7 of the last 8.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 16:17
by crusader
The thing with the Nonito and Vic wins is that those guys were so undersized compared to Walters, yet they stood right in front of him. Nonito isn't even big for 122, while Vic is small for anything above 118.

To me the Marriaga and Sosa fights are better to go by, and though Walters still showed himself to be a top fighter his power had much less of an impact.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 16:51
by lefty
jockpunk wrote:I think lomachenko is very good, but a bit overrated by some, especially max Kellerman. He has really not beaten anyone good. The only good fighter he has fought, he has lost to. Personally, I think walters would destroy salido.

Bottom line, tough fight for loma. I think he will pull it out, but I could see him getting caught and dropped before boxing his way to a close decision. I am going with loma 115-112.
Gary Russell jnr is a pretty decent fighter.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 20:16
by boxing_rocks
Steve Kim ‏@steveucnlive 5h5 hours ago
Sources say Nicholas Walters made weight well, was eating the whole week, didn't drain himself to make 130 #boxing

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 26 Nov 2016, 21:49
by scallum2015
Imo Lomachenko is the most complete fighter in the game by far. He is gonna destroy Walters imo but this is boxing and Walters can crack

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 00:36
by Tanzio
10-9 Krusher close
10-8 Krusher
9-10 Ward close
10-9 Krusher close
9-10 Ward
10-9 Krusher
9-10 Ward
9-10 Ward
9-10 Ward
10-9 Krusher close
9-10 Ward
9-10 Ward

114-113 Ward again.

Ward outboxed Krusher, out jabbed, did better body work, controlled distance and closed stronger.

People who think this was a robbery are in fantasyland. People denigrating Ward's skills and gifts are blind.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 00:38
by p4p1
Streams anyone? Pm me

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 00:46
by Tanzio
Lederman should be put out to pasture.

That was a great fight with great fighters that could have gone either way. The judges by competence, corruptness, or ineptitude got it right, imo.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 00:48
by squiggy
With the exception that I don't remember being swayed toward ward in the third, I think that's a totally solid scorecard.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 00:54
by Tanzio
I have to admit that I am hoping for as good a fight as last week. Would not hurt my feelings if Walters stopped Loma or vice versa.

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 01:03
by Tanzio
Rd 1 = starts slow.

10-9 Loma close
He started timing him late

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 01:04
by p4p1
No ones got a stream?

Re: Walters/Lomachenko

Posted: 27 Nov 2016, 01:05
by diddy
I'm not scoring as Walters has no chance of a decision. No one does in this division after VL. You either get him outta there or you lose.