Bellew has NO chance against Haye

[rab]

bellew certainly isn't lacking in the balls department taking this fight . i just hope he gets the pay day he is hoping for, it could be a very hard but quick night for him.

I don't agree with this. I think the Briedis fight would have gone exactly the same way as this fight will. So really he's taking the more financially rewarding defeat.

i can't disagree with you , i haven't seen briedis to comment on him. that's what i would do if that was the case though !

[jamesmcdonnell]

bellew certainly isn't lacking in the balls department taking this fight . i just hope he gets the pay day he is hoping for, it could be a very hard but quick night for him.

Toney Bellew must have 5 to 10 million “in the bank”. Maybe nearer the 5. One would presume that he will be on Royalties for life thanks to the Rocky gig - and because of his outspoken nature and down-to-Earth manner, he will be guaranteed work on the after dinner circuit, not no mention punditry jobs. I just see this as a completely unnecessary risk!
I don’t really watch him but I think Bellew has the power to cause a stoppage against David Haye, in theory, but the rub is that Haye can definitely stop Bellew, pretty much as soon as he lands.

Not sure how you're collating your figures. As for royalties, depends on what contract he signed. It's not like he's some huge film star that can dictate terms.

[magwitch]

bellew certainly isn't lacking in the balls department taking this fight . i just hope he gets the pay day he is hoping for, it could be a very hard but quick night for him.

Toney Bellew must have 5 to 10 million “in the bank”. Maybe nearer the 5. One would presume that he will be on Royalties for life thanks to the Rocky gig - and because of his outspoken nature and down-to-Earth manner, he will be guaranteed work on the after dinner circuit, not no mention punditry jobs. I just see this as a completely unnecessary risk!
I don’t really watch him but I think Bellew has the power to cause a stoppage against David Haye, in theory, but the rub is that Haye can definitely stop Bellew, pretty much as soon as he lands.

Not sure how you're collating your figures. As for royalties, depends on what contract he signed. It's not like he's some huge film star that can dictate terms.

U think he signed up to play the opponent for 25k? I’d be amazed if he’s not on a deal. I don’t see gazillionaire Sly screwing him over. I’m surprised he got it considering all the Yank boxers.....but tbf if the were looking “overseas” “gobby” and passable “heavy”, the TB ticks boxes. I think because they’ve already been down the Eastern European route that that increased Bellew’s movie prospects. Great, great bit of business for him

[magwitch]

bellew certainly isn't lacking in the balls department taking this fight . i just hope he gets the pay day he is hoping for, it could be a very hard but quick night for him.

Toney Bellew must have 5 to 10 million “in the bank”. Maybe nearer the 5. One would presume that he will be on Royalties for life thanks to the Rocky gig - and because of his outspoken nature and down-to-Earth manner, he will be guaranteed work on the after dinner circuit, not no mention punditry jobs. I just see this as a completely unnecessary risk!
I don’t really watch him but I think Bellew has the power to cause a stoppage against David Haye, in theory, but the rub is that Haye can definitely stop Bellew, pretty much as soon as he lands.

Not sure how you're collating your figures. As for royalties, depends on what contract he signed. It's not like he's some huge film star that can dictate terms.

Collate nothing, I plucked it out of thin air Please come back and tell me how far away from 5 mil you think I am.

[Supremo]

Who gives a fornicate who wins? It's irrelevant to boxing. It's going to be all over mainstream media for the next few months. Please do not let it dominate on here- this place should be for proper boxing discussion

[geronimo]

How mauch is overrated Haye... For me, among other things, there is a chance that he will duck this fight, like he did with Fury.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Toney Bellew must have 5 to 10 million “in the bank”. Maybe nearer the 5. One would presume that he will be on Royalties for life thanks to the Rocky gig - and because of his outspoken nature and down-to-Earth manner, he will be guaranteed work on the after dinner circuit, not no mention punditry jobs. I just see this as a completely unnecessary risk!
I don’t really watch him but I think Bellew has the power to cause a stoppage against David Haye, in theory, but the rub is that Haye can definitely stop Bellew, pretty much as soon as he lands.

Not sure how you're collating your figures. As for royalties, depends on what contract he signed. It's not like he's some huge film star that can dictate terms.

U think he signed up to play the opponent for 25k? I’d be amazed if he’s not on a deal. I don’t see gazillionaire Sly screwing him over. I’m surprised he got it considering all the Yank boxers.....but tbf if the were looking “overseas” “gobby” and passable “heavy”, the TB ticks boxes. I think because they’ve already been down the Eastern European route that that increased Bellew’s movie prospects. Great, great bit of business for him

The fact is, you have absolutely no idea what deal he did. You're talking our of your arse.

[Boxerbeetle]

bellew certainly isn't lacking in the balls department taking this fight . i just hope he gets the pay day he is hoping for, it could be a very hard but quick night for him.

Toney Bellew must have 5 to 10 million “in the bank”. Maybe nearer the 5. One would presume that he will be on Royalties for life thanks to the Rocky gig - and because of his outspoken nature and down-to-Earth manner, he will be guaranteed work on the after dinner circuit, not no mention punditry jobs. I just see this as a completely unnecessary risk!
I don’t really watch him but I think Bellew has the power to cause a stoppage against David Haye, in theory, but the rub is that Haye can definitely stop Bellew, pretty much as soon as he lands.

Not sure how you're collating your figures. As for royalties, depends on what contract he signed. It's not like he's some huge film star that can dictate terms.

Very few actors get royalties/percentages from Hollywood films.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Toney Bellew must have 5 to 10 million “in the bank”. Maybe nearer the 5. One would presume that he will be on Royalties for life thanks to the Rocky gig - and because of his outspoken nature and down-to-Earth manner, he will be guaranteed work on the after dinner circuit, not no mention punditry jobs. I just see this as a completely unnecessary risk!
I don’t really watch him but I think Bellew has the power to cause a stoppage against David Haye, in theory, but the rub is that Haye can definitely stop Bellew, pretty much as soon as he lands.

Not sure how you're collating your figures. As for royalties, depends on what contract he signed. It's not like he's some huge film star that can dictate terms.

Very few actors get royalties/percentages from Hollywood films.

Alec guiness did in star wars, but only because the producers were struggling to pay the actors. Set him up for life.

[banjo]

How mauch is overrated Haye... For me, among other things, there is a chance that he will duck this fight, like he did with Fury.

Doubt he'd duck Bellew, it was only a couple of years ago he got battered by a blown up super middleweight.

[geronimo]

How mauch is overrated Haye... For me, among other things, there is a chance that he will duck this fight, like he did with Fury.

Doubt he'd duck Bellew, it was only a couple of years ago he got battered by a blown up super middleweight.

It doesn't mean nothing. If you mean Stevenson, he is a lightheavyweight, not a super middleweight, and is one of the most powerfull light heavyweight in boxing. Then, there are nomeorus reasons to consider:
1) Bellew was "another fighter" back then.
2) The natural class weight of Bellew is cruiser/heavyweight.
3) He beat Makabu with a test of strength. And Makabu is an hard puncher.
4) How many times Haye have been KD's? Do you remember the Lolenga Mock bout? (For me it was also a bad referee decision to stop the fight).
5) Sayng: "Haye has more power then the fighters than Bellew faces", is a simplistic thinking, more reasons have to be explained.
6) I notice that the same speech has been done for the Fury-Haye match: Fury has been knockdowns by weak boxers, Haye will kill him... Then Fury beat an hard puncher and pound for pound boxer like W. Klitschko.
7) Bellew is not a naive boxer, is a world class fighter.
So, this match is more balanced than most people think. The 4th of march we will know who is right.

[CharlesListon]

I'm surprised so many of you seem excited about this casuals special.

Haye looked pretty shit in his last two "fights". His legs seem to have gone and he loaded up with everything and missed with a lot of shots.

Bellew has been dropped by Ovill McKenzie down at light heavy and basically shit his pants against Stevenson. He also got dropped by a very average African hype job.

Neither are anywhere near the best of their respective weight categories and neither of them fancy mixing it with the top lads at their weight.

Therefore, I couldnt give a flying fornicate on a Thursday who wins. The aggro between them has been invented and its just a cash cow for casuals to lap up and spend £17.

The contest will be a bore off. Haye won't want to commit because he can be chinny and Bellew will run because he can be chinny.

Let's hope it doesnt dominate proceedings on here for the next few months.

[Syntax Error]

It's par for the course these days.

Following on from Alvarez/Khan & Golovkin/Brook this is another supposed mismatch masquerading as a 'big' fight.

The only slight difference is that we don't exactly know where Haye is at the moment thanks to inactivity & him feasting on the walking dead since returning, but if he's anywhere near the level he was at in 2012 & before, he wipes out Bellow with ease.

[magwitch]

Not sure how you're collating your figures. As for royalties, depends on what contract he signed. It's not like he's some huge film star that can dictate terms.

U think he signed up to play the opponent for 25k? I’d be amazed if he’s not on a deal. I don’t see gazillionaire Sly screwing him over. I’m surprised he got it considering all the Yank boxers.....but tbf if the were looking “overseas” “gobby” and passable “heavy”, the TB ticks boxes. I think because they’ve already been down the Eastern European route that that increased Bellew’s movie prospects. Great, great bit of business for him

The fact is, you have absolutely no idea what deal he did. You're talking our of your arse.

It’s a lucrative franchise and Bellew just played a major part. It wasn’t a walk-on in Coronation Street mate
I never even said I knew the answer, it was merely an aside to the fact Bellew is very well off yet is about to take some clubbing hits off David Haye, if the fight goes like many of us think it may. Why do some people get touchy about other people’s money?!

[Anzi]

Fight will sell to the casuals, many will believe Bellew can win after the hype leading up to the figh, then the same people be moaning when Haye knocks him out in 2 rounds.

Mismatch which Haye wins with the first punch he lands

Audley Harrison !

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Fight will sell to the casuals, many will believe Bellew can win after the hype leading up to the figh, then the same people be moaning when Haye knocks him out in 2 rounds.

Mismatch which Haye wins with the first punch he lands

Audley Harrison !

I don't think it'll be quite the same, as Bellew might actually try & hit Haye, unlike Harrison who just stood there like a startled pheasant for a couple of rounds.

It should end even quicker as Haye will spring into action earlier, wary of what might happen if Bellew connects, because we all know that Tony is the hardest puncher in boxing history.

[kbackup408]

Who gives a eff who wins? It's irrelevant to boxing. It's going to be all over mainstream media for the next few months. Please do not let it dominate on here- this place should be for proper boxing discussion

Agreed pal this fight depressed me about the prospects of 2017, mismatches galore

[kbackup408]

This is interesting confrontation. Bellew means business from the one interview I take in. It's a decent promotion at this stage. Oh, sure, looks like Haye's first match back (must wait and see but....).
Who's the people making this happen? March 3, hey!

Aye pal the whole build up looks fabricated Bellew didn't have a problem with Haye just randomly started to act up, another fight to bring in the PPV number

[Finn]

bellew certainly isn't lacking in the balls department taking this fight . i just hope he gets the pay day he is hoping for, it could be a very hard but quick night for him.

Toney Bellew must have 5 to 10 million “in the bank”. Maybe nearer the 5. One would presume that he will be on Royalties for life thanks to the Rocky gig - and because of his outspoken nature and down-to-Earth manner, he will be guaranteed work on the after dinner circuit, not no mention punditry jobs. I just see this as a completely unnecessary risk!
I don’t really watch him but I think Bellew has the power to cause a stoppage against David Haye, in theory, but the rub is that Haye can definitely stop Bellew, pretty much as soon as he lands.

Nah no way bellew has money like that. This is his big payday.

[GPTM1403]

Fight will sell to the casuals, many will believe Bellew can win after the hype leading up to the figh, then the same people be moaning when Haye knocks him out in 2 rounds.

Mismatch which Haye wins with the first punch he lands

not quite the first punch but considering what Haye has done to heavies with good chins it won't take many punches or the most accurate of them to do the job. Bellew clearly thinks Haye is chinny but the evidence isn't there to support it in the way Bellew says. I also don't buy that Bellew hits as hard as a real heavy and Haye has taken some pretty decent shots from big men. Odds massively against Bellew here.

[GPTM1403]

How mauch is overrated Haye... For me, among other things, there is a chance that he will duck this fight, like he did with Fury.

Doubt he'd duck Bellew, it was only a couple of years ago he got battered by a blown up super middleweight.

It doesn't mean nothing. If you mean Stevenson, he is a lightheavyweight, not a super middleweight, and is one of the most powerfull light heavyweight in boxing. Then, there are nomeorus reasons to consider:
1) Bellew was "another fighter" back then.
2) The natural class weight of Bellew is cruiser/heavyweight.
3) He beat Makabu with a test of strength. And Makabu is an hard puncher.
4) How many times Haye have been KD's? Do you remember the Lolenga Mock bout? (For me it was also a bad referee decision to stop the fight).
5) Sayng: "Haye has more power then the fighters than Bellew faces", is a simplistic thinking, more reasons have to be explained.
6) I notice that the same speech has been done for the Fury-Haye match: Fury has been knockdowns by weak boxers, Haye will kill him... Then Fury beat an hard puncher and pound for pound boxer like W. Klitschko.
7) Bellew is not a naive boxer, is a world class fighter.
So, this match is more balanced than most people think. The 4th of march we will know who is right.

To answer so many of your questions, Haye hasn't been knocked down that many times and since gassing in that early fight he's got up and won. He has splattered one of the most durable heavies around (Chisora) all over the canvas and bounced genuine big strong guys with decent chins up and down continually. Haye has been operating at heavy for some time and been stopping those guys. Bellew has been operating and light heavy and cruiser and hasn't got a comparable show of power to match Haye v Chisora. As for Haye v Fury, I've been saying for years I wouldn't put Fury anywhere near Haye. Fury has been dropped a couple of times by walking onto overarm rights from shorter guys, Haye is the height that causes Fury trouble but with better speed, power and accuracy than the guys who dropped him. (I'd still by the way back Fury if head right against most of the top heavies, Haye just happens to be wrong for him).

[whiskey]

As the old boxrec poster Hagler used to say:

"Wheelbarrows at the ready"

[Muttley]

Good fight for bellew here Hayes old and his legs have gone Hayes got a punchers chance.

Sorry but Bellew is well out of his depth. i understand sky's reasoning for making this fight(event) and there will be a few gullible punters buying it but it is a total mismatch. this will be like the Audley Harrison fight all over again. The build up will be pantomime at its best but in reality as soon as Haye wants to finish it he will.

[Muttley]

How mauch is overrated Haye... For me, among other things, there is a chance that he will duck this fight, like he did with Fury.

No way Haye ducks this fight he is too much of a sure thing. Haye only takes fights he is guaranteed to win.

[GPTM1403]

How mauch is overrated Haye... For me, among other things, there is a chance that he will duck this fight, like he did with Fury.

No way Haye ducks this fight he is too much of a sure thing. Haye only takes fights he is guaranteed to win.

to be fair to Haye, I think he is fighting who he can get to face him and for the money he can pay them, everyone knows he can hit, everyone knows the titles are all over the place, the "top" (ha) heavyweights are hovering around title shots, they're not going to risk those against Haye (just like he's less likely to risk it against them), the next level want silly money to get knocked out by him, leaving the guys he is fighting. Hopefully one thing this means is he has the sense to keep fighting rather than sit on his arse waiting for a title shot, cos the likes of Joshua are definitely going to let him sit inactive until he either retires or is an easier prospect.