Look: Mike Perez trimmed down, ripped and in magnificent shape

[punchoutsb]

So you're actually saying that the consequence of the Mago fight only has a trivial effect on Perez's career?

No.

Have you ever walked a similar path as Perez by remaining mostly unaffected by the fact you've maimed another human being?

No, not that this strawman argument has anything to do with this.

Is it a coincidence that Perez had a 100% perfect record up until and including the Mago bout, only managed to win one of his next four fights?

In order for this to "prove" your point, the competition would have to have been the same before and after. It's wasn't.

[Enlightened-One]

Have you ever walked a similar path as Perez by remaining mostly unaffected by the fact you've maimed another human being?

I asked a question and made no attempt to misrepresent your words and nor am I moving the topic of discussion, which by definition cannot be deemed as a strawman debatic tactic.

Therefore, please refrain from casually using sound bites if you're not 100% clear of the intended English definition of those words.

My intention was to gauge your level of empathy or naivety, because we were referring to educated opinions. If you had unfortunately inflicted serious injuries on another human being, then your words would hold much more value.

Mike Perez's performances have visibly and markedly diminished significantly since the Mago tragedy, regardless the quality of opposition he fought.

If you disagree, then fine, but I can name multiple fighters who's careers were permanently harmed by similar tragedies.

[gilgamesh]

Perez certainly has potential so I'm glad to see he's getting in better shape.

[punchoutsb]

Have you ever walked a similar path as Perez by remaining mostly unaffected by the fact you've maimed another human being?

I asked a question and made no attempt to misrepresent your words and nor am I moving the topic of discussion, which by definition cannot be deemed as a strawman debatic tactic.

Therefore, please refrain from casually using sound bites if you're not 100% clear of the intended English definition of those words.

My intention was to gauge your level of empathy or naivety, because we were referring to educated opinions. If you had unfortunately inflicted serious injuries on another human being, then your words would hold much more value.

Mike Perez's performances have visibly and markedly diminished significantly since the Mago tragedy, regardless the quality of opposition he fought.

If you disagree, then fine, but I can name multiple fighters who's careers were harmed by tragedies.

The entire crux of your post was a misrepresentation of my words and whether or not I had ever left someone badly brain damaged had nothing to do with the topic since I and Mike Perez are different people.

I also don't disagree that his performances have declined after Mago which oddly enough coincided with a step up in class. This isn't earth shattering stuff.

But since you're trying to look smart and enlightened by guessing and passing it off as fact, wouldn't you guess that Perez would have been terrified to hit a fragile old man like Darnell Wilson? Of all four of his opponents post Mago, Wilson would logically be the one with the highest risk for serious injury yet Perez had no issue winging bombs and stopping him in two. Weird huh?

I'd also wager that you can find more fighters whose (please refrain from using words if you're not 100% clear of the intended English spelling of those words) careers were harmed by stepping up in class.

[Lackeos]

When I see these things I immediately think PED.

He looks like he's about 11% bodyfat, so it wouldn't be unrealistic for him to achieve this cleanly. There's various dudes like Edner Cherry and Timothy Bradley who made it down to like 5-7% bodyfat who are way more suspicious.



You could seriously stick a ruler into their abdominal cleavage and measure it in centimeters.

[Enlightened-One]

The entire crux of your post was a misrepresentation of my words and whether or not I had ever left someone badly brain damaged had nothing to do with the topic...

Technically-speaking, I didn't misrepresent your stance, since I only asked questions to clarify it.

Please quote any of the statements that I have made in this thread, relating to my interpretation of your claims, which you wholeheartedly believe misrepresents your actual stance?

If you must insist on attempting to undermine me, by arguing that I've employed strawman debatic tactics, then you must be prepared to defend those words...

[punchoutsb]

The entire crux of your post was a misrepresentation of my words and whether or not I had ever left someone badly brain damaged had nothing to do with the topic...

Technically-speaking, I didn't misrepresent your stance, since I only asked questions to clarify it.

Please quote any of the statements that I have made in this thread, relating to my interpretation of your claims, which you wholeheartedly believe misrepresents your actual stance?

If you must insist on attempting to undermine me, by arguing that I've employed strawman debatic tactics, then you must be prepared to defend those words...

Aren't you changing the discussion now?

[Enlightened-One]

The entire crux of your post was a misrepresentation of my words and whether or not I had ever left someone badly brain damaged had nothing to do with the topic...

Technically-speaking, I didn't misrepresent your stance, since I only asked questions to clarify it.

Please quote any of the statements that I have made in this thread, relating to my interpretation of your claims, which you wholeheartedly believe misrepresents your actual stance?

If you must insist on attempting to undermine me, by arguing that I've employed strawman debatic tactics, then you must be prepared to defend those words...

Aren't you changing the discussion now?

I directly addressed a sentence that you had written, by asking you to justify your allegations, but since you can't... due to the fact you can only respond with yet another dishonest accusation that is incorrect... I have to assume that you've already conceded defeat, in regards to your weak attempt to undermine my credibility.

[punchoutsb]

Technically-speaking, I didn't misrepresent your stance, since I only asked questions to clarify it.

Please quote any of the statements that I have made in this thread, relating to my interpretation of your claims, which you wholeheartedly believe misrepresents your actual stance?

If you must insist on attempting to undermine me, by arguing that I've employed strawman debatic tactics, then you must be prepared to defend those words...

Aren't you changing the discussion now?

I directly addressed a sentence that you had written, by asking you to justify your allegations, but since you can't... due to the fact you can only respond with yet another dishonest accusation that is incorrect... I have to assume that you've already conceded defeat, in regards to your weak attempt to undermine my credibility.

You're the best internet psychologist I've ever met!

Now if you're finished stroking yourself can you tell me why your client was so freely capable of punching a shop worn old man in the face over and over again stopping him in two round but suddenly had flashbacks against the three best opponents he's ever faced?

[Jip]

him vs haye would be great. both about same size, same weight now

[Enlightened-One]

Aren't you changing the discussion now?

I directly addressed a sentence that you had written, by asking you to justify your allegations, but since you can't... due to the fact you can only respond with yet another dishonest accusation that is incorrect... I have to assume that you've already conceded defeat, in regards to your weak attempt to undermine my credibility.

You're the best internet psychologist I've ever met!

Now if you're finished stroking yourself can you tell me why your client was so freely capable of punching a shop worn old man in the face over and over again stopping him in two round but suddenly had flashbacks against the three best opponents he's ever faced?

Herol Graham, Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn have all inflicted serious life-changing inuries inside the ring, with their performance levels subsequently dropping as a direct consequence of their ordeals, but this didn't stop them from KO'ing opponents whenever the opportunities arise.

[punchoutsb]

I directly addressed a sentence that you had written, by asking you to justify your allegations, but since you can't... due to the fact you can only respond with yet another dishonest accusation that is incorrect... I have to assume that you've already conceded defeat, in regards to your weak attempt to undermine my credibility.

You're the best internet psychologist I've ever met!

Now if you're finished stroking yourself can you tell me why your client was so freely capable of punching a shop worn old man in the face over and over again stopping him in two round but suddenly had flashbacks against the three best opponents he's ever faced?

Herol Graham, Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn have all inflicted serious life-changing inuries inside the ring, with their performance levels subsequently dropping as a direct consequence of their ordeals, but this didn't stop them from KO'ing opponents whenever the opportunities arise.

And how many fighters have seen their performance levels drop as a direct consequence of stepping up the competition?