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jezzamundo wrote:Like I said, this is a good way of counting votes, better than first past the post, but it doesn't work so well with small numbers.

Tarkus wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:Like I said, this is a good way of counting votes, better than first past the post, but it doesn't work so well with small numbers.

I think you could count a simple majority. So whoever has most 1s wins. If there is a a tie look at number of 2s an so on.

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:The votes here actually show perfectly how much lack of knowledge people got about the heavyweight division. Daffy, who's scared of Briggs, get ranked above better opponents by many, while Hughie Fury isn't even considered, while he's clearly better as Daffy.

Ah well, funny topic in a few years.

It's not a lack of knowledge - it's a different opinion to your own.

I think it's very unlikely Haye is scared of Briggs. Briggs is just an unattractive opponent for Haye, because while Haye should be able to beat him, Briggs would always have a puncher's chance and has a pretty good chin too, so Haye may not be able to bomb him out early like he did his recent opponents. Briggs is fairly lowly regarded and losing to him would ruin Haye's reputation and money earning capability. The risk-reward ratio just isn't there. It's not fear, it's just a business decision.

That Hughie Fury is clearly better than Haye is, again, nothing more than your own opinion. Perhaps he's better, perhaps he's not, but there's nothing clear about it.

That's fear and it's common sense that Hughie is better

jezzamundo wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:Like I said, this is a good way of counting votes, better than first past the post, but it doesn't work so well with small numbers.

I think you could count a simple majority. So whoever has most 1s wins. If there is a a tie look at number of 2s an so on.

I'm not a fan of first past the post, at the moment that would make Hammer (who I voted for) the winner, despite the fact that 8 out of 12 voters had Duhaupas higher than him.

Lennox wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:The votes here actually show perfectly how much lack of knowledge people got about the heavyweight division. Daffy, who's scared of Briggs, get ranked above better opponents by many, while Hughie Fury isn't even considered, while he's clearly better as Daffy.

Ah well, funny topic in a few years.

You are totally deluded. Educate yourself.

http://www.premierboxingorganisation.co ... weight-200

Lennox wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:The votes here actually show perfectly how much lack of knowledge people got about the heavyweight division. Daffy, who's scared of Briggs, get ranked above better opponents by many, while Hughie Fury isn't even considered, while he's clearly better as Daffy.

Ah well, funny topic in a few years.

You are totally deluded. Educate yourself.

http://www.premierboxingorganisation.co ... weight-200

asdfjkl wrote:

Lennox wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:The votes here actually show perfectly how much lack of knowledge people got about the heavyweight division. Daffy, who's scared of Briggs, get ranked above better opponents by many, while Hughie Fury isn't even considered, while he's clearly better as Daffy.

Ah well, funny topic in a few years.

You are totally deluded. Educate yourself.

http://www.premierboxingorganisation.co ... weight-200

I might PM you in 2019 or so

jezzamundo wrote:Votes have been tallied. There was a three-way tie in preferential voting between Hammer, Duhaupas and Haye, so I opted for a head-to-head tally, where Johann Duhaupas was favoured over every other fighter, so he enters at #15.

Champion in Recess: Tyson Fury
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Luis Ortiz
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Joseph Parker
7. Anthony Joshua
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Artur Szpilka
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Johann Duhaupas

jezzamundo wrote:Votes have been tallied. There was a three-way tie in preferential voting between Hammer, Duhaupas and Haye, so I opted for a head-to-head tally, where Johann Duhaupas was favoured over every other fighter, so he enters at #15.

Champion in Recess: Tyson Fury
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Luis Ortiz
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Joseph Parker
7. Anthony Joshua
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Artur Szpilka
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Johann Duhaupas

tiny_acres wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:Votes have been tallied. There was a three-way tie in preferential voting between Hammer, Duhaupas and Haye, so I opted for a head-to-head tally, where Johann Duhaupas was favoured over every other fighter, so he enters at #15.

Champion in Recess: Tyson Fury
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Luis Ortiz
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Joseph Parker
7. Anthony Joshua
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Artur Szpilka
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Johann Duhaupas

How the hell is he favored over every other fighter on the list. Where are the votes on that

jezzamundo wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:Votes have been tallied. There was a three-way tie in preferential voting between Hammer, Duhaupas and Haye, so I opted for a head-to-head tally, where Johann Duhaupas was favoured over every other fighter, so he enters at #15.

Champion in Recess: Tyson Fury
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Luis Ortiz
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Joseph Parker
7. Anthony Joshua
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Carlos Takam
10. Vyacheslav Glazkov
11. Lucas Browne
12. Bermane Stiverne
13. Artur Szpilka
14. Dereck Chisora
15. Johann Duhaupas

How the hell is he favored over every other fighter on the list. Where are the votes on that

15 people voted, he was preferred over Hammer by 9, over Ruiz by 9, over Haye by 9 and over Zhang by 13.

tiny_acres wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:
How the hell is he favored over every other fighter on the list. Where are the votes on that

15 people voted, he was preferred over Hammer by 9, over Ruiz by 9, over Haye by 9 and over Zhang by 13.

What happened to averaging the vote?

jezzamundo wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:
15 people voted, he was preferred over Hammer by 9, over Ruiz by 9, over Haye by 9 and over Zhang by 13.

What happened to averaging the vote?

I've never averaged the vote in doing these rankings - I use the median vote in most topics, for this one I tried using preferential vote counting, but that came up with a three-way tie, so I went to head-to-head preferences. For the sake of curiosity, based on average vote, the result would have been the same:

1. Duhaupas 2.33
2. Hammer 2.47
3. Ruiz 2.8
4. Haye 3
5. Zhang 4.33