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Great question

I'd have to lean towards Mayweather. He was a great fighter at Super Feather. With each move up in weight he became less of a boxer & more of a strategist, if you know what I mean (he got f*cking duller ).

But at 130 I'd have him beating anyone at that weight (I say that without proper research so I'm more than happy for people to throw some names at me )

I love Loma though. It's a shame there's not many big names around his weight for him.

boxing_rocks wrote:Floyd is/was bigger and was a better puncher at 130. With comparable skill levels, it means that he stops Loma sooner or later in the fight.

It rather means thath Loma stops him later.

If a boxer can make his high level opponents look like novices - then he is a genuine champion. A week ago, I rewatched the fight between Donaire and Walters. Walters looked like a real beast. In my opinion, Donaire is a little bit overrated, but, anyway he is a top level boxer. Walters couldn't do anything against Lomachenko, this was "the sign" for me.......Mayweather did the same thing so many times, the list would be pretty long.

So, I can not answer this (my) question. Sometimes, I think Floyd would win, sometimes I think just opposite.........

MaxiBoxc wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Floyd is/was bigger and was a better puncher at 130. With comparable skill levels, it means that he stops Loma sooner or later in the fight.

It rather means thath Loma stops him later.

If I am right about their skill levels being comparable, then it is a classic good big man against a good little man scenario. However, Loma may be better in certain areas making it a clash of styles and making Floyd miss a lot.

There are levels to this. Floyd IMO is even a level above Lomachenko. That's not saying Lomachenko isn't a great fighter, but Floyd IMO is a legend. Floyd was super fast, super smart and a killer at 130, I'm talking much faster than Lomachenko. You look at Floyd's fight against Phillip N'dou which was at 135 but Floyd was a fornicating beast and actually beat the tar out of a guy who was there to win (much tougher fighter than Walters). Floyd has always been the master at baiting guys in and Loma would have gotten eaten up jumping in and out like he does and Floyd would have eaten him up and spit him out at range. It wouldnt have been a close fight, Floyd wins it by a mile and wouldn't doubt Floyd would have even stopped Lomachenko.

These Lomachenko nutso's are out in full force. Am I the ONLY one that thinks they are ridiculous? Look, the kid just beat a very good fighter that came into the fight unprepared and ready to quit. When a fighter goes into a fight looking for a way out then you aren't getting their best effort.

Lomachenko just TWO years ago got beaten by Salido. Do people not remember this or is it not a factor to you? How can you be the #1 P4P fighter with a loss two years ago to an older fighter not even close to any P4P list. NOW, you want to take it even further and compare him to one of the greatest boxers the sport has ever seen? COME ON. You people are delirious and drinking the kool aid that Max and HBO keep shoveling at you.

PUMP the freaking brakes already. Let's let the kid deserve the accolades first. He's had 8 fights and lost one of them. Unreal.

I think Lomachenko's footwork would have caused Floyd serious problems. Tough fight for Mayweather.

Lomachenko looks like the business to me, obviously Floyd proved his worth over a very long period of time, and was arguably at his very best at 130, when he was still a very good offensive fighter.

caldo2025 wrote:These Lomachenko nutso's are out in full force. Am I the ONLY one that thinks they are ridiculous? Look, the kid just beat a very good fighter that came into the fight unprepared and ready to quit. When a fighter goes into a fight looking for a way out then you aren't getting their best effort.

Lomachenko just TWO years ago got beaten by Salido. Do people not remember this or is it not a factor to you? How can you be the #1 P4P fighter with a loss two years ago to an older fighter not even close to any P4P list. NOW, you want to take it even further and compare him to one of the greatest boxers the sport has ever seen? COME ON. You people are delirious and drinking the kool aid that Max and HBO keep shoveling at you.

PUMP the freaking brakes already. Let's let the kid deserve the accolades first. He's had 8 fights and lost one of them. Unreal.

Rather unfair, Lomachenko forced him to quit.

He made Walters look like a clubfighter in there. Obviously it is still early days for Lomachenko, but he looks to have the goods, can you seriously not see that?

Lomachenko had virtually no pro experience at the time he lost to Salido, he's on the fast track, and then some. Losses don't bother me too much in context.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:These Lomachenko nutso's are out in full force. Am I the ONLY one that thinks they are ridiculous? Look, the kid just beat a very good fighter that came into the fight unprepared and ready to quit. When a fighter goes into a fight looking for a way out then you aren't getting their best effort.

Lomachenko just TWO years ago got beaten by Salido. Do people not remember this or is it not a factor to you? How can you be the #1 P4P fighter with a loss two years ago to an older fighter not even close to any P4P list. NOW, you want to take it even further and compare him to one of the greatest boxers the sport has ever seen? COME ON. You people are delirious and drinking the kool aid that Max and HBO keep shoveling at you.

PUMP the freaking brakes already. Let's let the kid deserve the accolades first. He's had 8 fights and lost one of them. Unreal.

Rather unfair, Lomachenko forced him to quit.

He made Walters look like a clubfighter in there. Obviously it is still early days for Lomachenko, but he looks to have the goods, can you seriously not see that?

Lomachenko had virtually no pro experience at the time he lost to Salido, he's on the fast track, and then some. Losses don't bother me too much in context.

I respectively disagree that Loma made Walters quit because things were getting too hard for Walters. Walters wasn't in the fight to begin with, he didn't once show a ounce of urgency, he never once showed he was willing to go out on his shield. Walters got hit by a few clean shots and was flat out scared, he had absolutely no confidence in himself and didn't from the opening bell. Walters flat out laid a egg. I've seen too many less than great fighters go through much tougher obstacles than Walters, I have actually never once seen someone just flat out quit like that(other than the Duran "no mas" debacle). Yes Walters was getting out boxed, but he was far from getting beat up in the true sense. If anything Walters tainted what was going to be a very good win for Lomachenko, he didn't even give Lomachenko the chance to earn it, he just flat out gave him the win. I just don't buy that Walters quit because he couldn't or shouldn't continue, not for a second.

how do people think lomachenko would get on with canelo alvarez or even berto ? maybe down the road we will get a chance to see him box an ex mayweather opponent to be able to form a more informed opinion . i will probably get slated for this but imo mayweather is the best boxer i have ever seen.
genetically excellent ,fast, tough, takes a great shot and has a fluidity of movement i haven't seen in anyone else i have ever watched.

rab wrote:how do people think lomachenko would get on with canelo alvarez or even berto ? maybe down the road we will get a chance to see him box an ex mayweather opponent to be able to form a more informed opinion . i will probably get slated for this but imo mayweather is the best boxer i have ever seen.
genetically excellent ,fast, tough, takes a great shot and has a fluidity of movement i haven't seen in anyone else i have ever watched.

No disrespect meant on this comment.
But how would Lomas fighting an older version of a past Mayweather opponent show us anything.
Also Loma will never fight at that high of a weight to effectively battle any of Mayweathers former foes.

rab wrote:how do people think lomachenko would get on with canelo alvarez or even berto ? maybe down the road we will get a chance to see him box an ex mayweather opponent to be able to form a more informed opinion . i will probably get slated for this but imo mayweather is the best boxer i have ever seen.
genetically excellent ,fast, tough, takes a great shot and has a fluidity of movement i haven't seen in anyone else i have ever watched.

Alvarez would be way too big, he'd get smashed up after a few rounds just because of the size differential.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

rab wrote:how do people think lomachenko would get on with canelo alvarez or even berto ? maybe down the road we will get a chance to see him box an ex mayweather opponent to be able to form a more informed opinion . i will probably get slated for this but imo mayweather is the best boxer i have ever seen.
genetically excellent ,fast, tough, takes a great shot and has a fluidity of movement i haven't seen in anyone else i have ever watched.

Alvarez would be way too big, he'd get smashed up after a few rounds just because of the size differential.

I'm not saying you're wrong, and I actually agree, but most would have said that about Mayweather when he was fighting at 130, let's see where Lomachenko is in six years. He is a little shorter than Mayweather, but he's still a young man and we'll have to see how his career goes. Mayweather moved from a champion at 130 to a champion at 147 in less than five years.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

rab wrote:how do people think lomachenko would get on with canelo alvarez or even berto ? maybe down the road we will get a chance to see him box an ex mayweather opponent to be able to form a more informed opinion . i will probably get slated for this but imo mayweather is the best boxer i have ever seen.
genetically excellent ,fast, tough, takes a great shot and has a fluidity of movement i haven't seen in anyone else i have ever watched.

Alvarez would be way too big, he'd get smashed up after a few rounds just because of the size differential.

I'm not saying you're wrong, and I actually agree, but most would have said that about Mayweather when he was fighting at 130, let's see where Lomachenko is in six years. He is a little shorter than Mayweather, but he's still a young man and we'll have to see how his career goes. Mayweather moved from a champion at 130 to a champion at 147 in less than five years.

It will never happen. Alvarez will probably end up at super middle.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Alvarez would be way too big, he'd get smashed up after a few rounds just because of the size differential.

I'm not saying you're wrong, and I actually agree, but most would have said that about Mayweather when he was fighting at 130, let's see where Lomachenko is in six years. He is a little shorter than Mayweather, but he's still a young man and we'll have to see how his career goes. Mayweather moved from a champion at 130 to a champion at 147 in less than five years.

It will never happen. Alvarez will probably end up at super middle.

No of course it won't, but someome of a similar size Is theoretically possible. My point is no one expected that of the super featherweight Mayweather either.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
I'm not saying you're wrong, and I actually agree, but most would have said that about Mayweather when he was fighting at 130, let's see where Lomachenko is in six years. He is a little shorter than Mayweather, but he's still a young man and we'll have to see how his career goes. Mayweather moved from a champion at 130 to a champion at 147 in less than five years.

It will never happen. Alvarez will probably end up at super middle.

No of course it won't, but someome of a similar size Is theoretically possible. My point is no one expected that of the super featherweight Mayweather either.

Ok, well if you want to believe it may happen fine, but I think it is extremely unlikely, to say the least.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Alvarez would be way too big, he'd get smashed up after a few rounds just because of the size differential.

I'm not saying you're wrong, and I actually agree, but most would have said that about Mayweather when he was fighting at 130, let's see where Lomachenko is in six years. He is a little shorter than Mayweather, but he's still a young man and we'll have to see how his career goes. Mayweather moved from a champion at 130 to a champion at 147 in less than five years.

It will never happen. Alvarez will probably end up at super middle.

Alvarez will probably hit Cruiserweight. 10 years from now he will be 190

tiny_acres wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
I'm not saying you're wrong, and I actually agree, but most would have said that about Mayweather when he was fighting at 130, let's see where Lomachenko is in six years. He is a little shorter than Mayweather, but he's still a young man and we'll have to see how his career goes. Mayweather moved from a champion at 130 to a champion at 147 in less than five years.

It will never happen. Alvarez will probably end up at super middle.

Alvarez will probably hit Cruiserweight. 10 years from now he will be 190

He's still young isn't he, what is he 24? I reckon he'll be retired by then to be honest, there must be a lot of wear and tear on that body already, been fighting professionally since 15 and already had nearly 60 fights isn't it? (can't be arsed to look it up.)

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jamesmcdonnell wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
It will never happen. Alvarez will probably end up at super middle.

No of course it won't, but someome of a similar size Is theoretically possible. My point is no one expected that of the super featherweight Mayweather either.

Ok, well if you want to believe it may happen fine, but I think it is extremely unlikely, to say the least.

You're not reading my words. All I'm saying is no one expected Mayweather to do it, and therefore it is theoretically possible. I'm not saying he will do it, I've already said I agreed with you.

Enlightened-One wrote:

ValMar wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:I don’t think a lot of people like Floyd Mayweather Jr. or have any respect for his accomplishments, which leads me to believe that the vast majority of opinions submitted to this thread will almost certainly (and in most cases, dishonestly) favour Lomachenko .

It is not important whether you (and other posters) like or dislike Mayweather and Lomachenko as persons.
What do you think about boxers (Floyd and Vasil) ?

I personally favour Floyd Mayweather Jr. , possibly by late stoppage at 130lbs.

Based on what? Mayweather ain't a big hitter and Lomanchenko isn't chinny.

loma probably just outworks him, but it'd be close.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

ValMar wrote: It is not important whether you (and other posters) like or dislike Mayweather and Lomachenko as persons.
What do you think about boxers (Floyd and Vasil) ?

I personally favour Floyd Mayweather Jr. , possibly by late stoppage at 130lbs.

Based on what? Mayweather ain't a big hitter and Lomanchenko isn't chinny.

Mayweather could hit back at 130. He still can, it's just his hands are too brittle now to really throw with conviction.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote: I personally favour Floyd Mayweather Jr. , possibly by late stoppage at 130lbs.

Based on what? Mayweather ain't a big hitter and Lomanchenko isn't chinny.

Mayweather could hit back at 130. He still can, it's just his hands are too brittle now to really throw with conviction.

He can hit, but he ain't a BIG hitter IMO.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Based on what? Mayweather ain't a big hitter and Lomanchenko isn't chinny.

Mayweather could hit back at 130. He still can, it's just his hands are too brittle now to really throw with conviction.

He can hit, but he ain't a BIG hitter IMO.

Not a big single puncher no, but he was much more of an offensive machine back at 130. Good spiteful combination puncher.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Mayweather could hit back at 130. He still can, it's just his hands are too brittle now to really throw with conviction.

He can hit, but he ain't a BIG hitter IMO.

Not a big single puncher no, but he was much more of an offensive machine back at 130. Good spiteful combination puncher.

I completely agree mate. I see Floyd winning a decision. What do you see as the most likely result?