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BitPlayer wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

BitPlayer wrote: Not convincingly enough, maybe the top contender, really to get close you'd need the winner of Wlad-Joshua to fight the winner of Wilder-Povetkin (please not effing Wlad-Povetkin 2). And thats without Fury coming back.

I think that WKlit retires, win or lose. If he wins, he has nothing left to prove. Fury ducked WKlit, not the other way around. Fury is the one who has something to prove if he ever manages to stop giving himself a mental breakdown in order to avoid a rematch with WKlit.

Just stop with this Fury The Snowman apologist crap. He is a drunken druggy until further notice. He is not the world champion. He waved the white flag without a fight. He is an ex-champion of the world by way of slipping by the #1 HW of this millennium at the age of 40.

The most feared HW in the world right now is Joshua, and the second most feared is WKlit. They are stepping into the ring to settle matters, while Fury is hiding behind mental issues largely caused and exacerbated by his lack of discipline.

Really, so he beat him in second gear then was scared of the rematch? Bollocks.

Mental illness is something Fury has talked about having for years, and something he definitely showed signs of in the rematch. Mental health is a very serious issue and glibly dismissing it is at least on par withthe worst Tyson Fury has said.

Another Fury The Snowman apologist. He pulls his head out of the pile of blow just long enough to claim he has mental issues and down somemore alcohol and suddenly he should be excused for scuttling the rematch that WKlit deserved and hiding behind drugs and alcohol problems.

The Snowman needs to get help for his substance abuse issues before he or anyone else can work on any remnant mental damage. I have been through this sh!t with too many people through the years. They claim mental issues to rationalize their behavior. When he is ready for help he will find it waiting for him. Until then spare me the sob stories.

Not happening. Al Haymon won't let Wilder near any of the most likely candidates to unify.

Tanzio wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

Tanzio wrote: I think that WKlit retires, win or lose. If he wins, he has nothing left to prove. Fury ducked WKlit, not the other way around. Fury is the one who has something to prove if he ever manages to stop giving himself a mental breakdown in order to avoid a rematch with WKlit.

Just stop with this Fury The Snowman apologist crap. He is a drunken druggy until further notice. He is not the world champion. He waved the white flag without a fight. He is an ex-champion of the world by way of slipping by the #1 HW of this millennium at the age of 40.

The most feared HW in the world right now is Joshua, and the second most feared is WKlit. They are stepping into the ring to settle matters, while Fury is hiding behind mental issues largely caused and exacerbated by his lack of discipline.

Really, so he beat him in second gear then was scared of the rematch? Bollocks.

Mental illness is something Fury has talked about having for years, and something he definitely showed signs of in the rematch. Mental health is a very serious issue and glibly dismissing it is at least on par withthe worst Tyson Fury has said.

Another Fury The Snowman apologist. He pulls his head out of the pile of blow just long enough to claim he has mental issues and down somemore alcohol and suddenly he should be excused for scuttling the rematch that WKlit deserved and hiding behind drugs and alcohol problems.

The Snowman needs to get help for his substance abuse issues before he or anyone else can work on any remnant mental damage. I have been through this sh!t with too many people through the years. They claim mental issues to rationalize their behavior. When he is ready for help he will find it waiting for him. Until then spare me the sob stories.

Technically, substance abuse can be considered a MH issue. Either way, it comes down to Fury trying to fix the problem or just ignoring it.

Shannon Briggs and Dave Allen both know a hell of a lot more about what Fury is going through than you sitting behind a keyboard talking absolute crap. They both seem pretty convinced his issues are legit.

BitPlayer wrote:Shannon Briggs and Dave Allen both know a hell of a lot more about what Fury is going through than you sitting behind a keyboard talking absolute crap. They both seem pretty convinced his issues are legit.

You have absolutely no idea of what or who you are speaking of. I have been and I am going through this sh!t with family, partners, subordinates, etc., all of my life. There are those who make it and those who waste their lives away and usually die prematurely.

In nearly every case the person who is suffering the substance abuse / mental issues sucks energy and life out of all of those around them. You know, the ones that are empathizing, love and care about them, and are trying to help them. They are energy vampires who will drag everyone down their black hole if given the opportunity.

Fury The Snowman is playing us all. He will clean up or he won't. He has access to all the support anyone could ever wish for.

Fury is a drunken druggy, no more or less than the ones many of us will pass living on the streets we walk. He shows sociopathic tendencies. Everything he does is for self gratification, with no legit conscience.

He reminds me of my sister. Everyone in her life did everything they could to help her, and in a sense we did. We helped her live her life exactly the way she wanted, without conscience about the collateral damage she was causing along the way. She finally ended up dead, after nearly a score of rehabs, completely messing up her children and causing grief to this day for those who choose to believe that she was just ill.

I tried to save her but I finally realized that she did not want to be saved, she just wanted to suck the life energy from those trying to save her. Fury is a sociopath who will fix himself if he chooses too, and all of his fans and apologists wringing their hands over his pathetic ass are accomplishing nothing.

Tanzio wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:Shannon Briggs and Dave Allen both know a hell of a lot more about what Fury is going through than you sitting behind a keyboard talking absolute crap. They both seem pretty convinced his issues are legit.

You have absolutely no idea of what or who you are speaking of. I have been and I am going through this sh!t with family, partners, subordinates, etc., all of my life. There are those who make it and those who waste their lives away and usually die prematurely.

In nearly every case the person who is suffering the substance abuse / mental issues sucks energy and life out of all of those around them. You know, the ones that are empathizing, love and care about them, and are trying to help them. They are energy vampires who will drag everyone down their black hole if given the opportunity.

Fury The Snowman is playing us all. He will clean up or he won't. He has access to all the support anyone could ever wish for.

Fury is a drunken druggy, no more or less than the ones many of us will pass living on the streets we walk. He shows sociopathic tendencies. Everything he does is for self gratification, with no legit conscience.

He reminds me of my sister. Everyone in her life did everything they could to help her, and in a sense we did. We helped her live her life exactly the way she wanted, without conscience about the collateral damage she was causing along the way. She finally ended up dead, after nearly a score of rehabs, completely messing up her children and causing grief to this day for those who choose to believe that she was just ill.

I tried to save her but I finally realized that she did not want to be saved, she just wanted to suck the life energy from those trying to save her. Fury is a sociopath who will fix himself if he chooses too, and all of his fans and apologists wringing their hands over his pathetic ass are accomplishing nothing.

This attitude is pure poison.

Would you say the same about someone with cancer? They make it hard for loved ones too, or are "energy vampires" as you put it.

BitPlayer wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:Shannon Briggs and Dave Allen both know a hell of a lot more about what Fury is going through than you sitting behind a keyboard talking absolute crap. They both seem pretty convinced his issues are legit.

You have absolutely no idea of what or who you are speaking of. I have been and I am going through this sh!t with family, partners, subordinates, etc., all of my life. There are those who make it and those who waste their lives away and usually die prematurely.

In nearly every case the person who is suffering the substance abuse / mental issues sucks energy and life out of all of those around them. You know, the ones that are empathizing, love and care about them, and are trying to help them. They are energy vampires who will drag everyone down their black hole if given the opportunity.

Fury The Snowman is playing us all. He will clean up or he won't. He has access to all the support anyone could ever wish for.

Fury is a drunken druggy, no more or less than the ones many of us will pass living on the streets we walk. He shows sociopathic tendencies. Everything he does is for self gratification, with no legit conscience.

He reminds me of my sister. Everyone in her life did everything they could to help her, and in a sense we did. We helped her live her life exactly the way she wanted, without conscience about the collateral damage she was causing along the way. She finally ended up dead, after nearly a score of rehabs, completely messing up her children and causing grief to this day for those who choose to believe that she was just ill.

I tried to save her but I finally realized that she did not want to be saved, she just wanted to suck the life energy from those trying to save her. Fury is a sociopath who will fix himself if he chooses too, and all of his fans and apologists wringing their hands over his pathetic ass are accomplishing nothing.

This attitude is pure poison.

Would you say the same about someone with cancer? They make it hard for loved ones too, or are "energy vampires" as you put it.

Apples and oranges, and you know it. If you do not understand the differences then you have had little experience with either.