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Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 05:54
by DannyMCR
Wow. I don't know which ones worse, the Browne situation or this one..

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 06:01
by Enlightened-One
Andrey Ryabinskiy said via his Twitter account that, as per the Wilder fight, the first set of test results came from the American lab. He doesn't know where the trace of Ostarine banned substance came from... and that theoretically, its source cannot be investigated.

This could wreck Ryabinskiy's long-running lawsuit against Deontay Wilder.

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 06:16
by Ruthless-RKO
Stiverne has confirmed that he is not going forward with the fight and plans to return back home to Las Vegas.

"I am disappointed, this is the height of unprofessionalism. Now the fight is definitely not taking place. I'm flying home, but my career goes on. I think I will become the official challenger to fight with Deontay Wilder," Stiverne said.

Sulaiman also confirmed Stiverne's decision - "Team Stiverne sent a message that they will not participate in the fight."

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 06:19
by bigman1968
Ruthless-RKO wrote:Stiverne has confirmed that he is not going forward with the fight and plans to return back home to Las Vegas.

"I am disappointed, this is the height of unprofessionalism. Now the fight is definitely not taking place. I'm flying home, but my career goes on. I think I will become the official challenger to fight with Deontay Wilder," Stiverne said.

Sulaiman also confirmed Stiverne's decision - "Team Stiverne sent a message that they will not participate in the fight."
Don King surely discussed the purse issue with his legal department and WBC....if he'll get the money without a fight, why bother...

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 06:24
by greg
..seems like they've been looking desperately for a replacement...this boxer's name keeps coming up:

http://boxrec.com/boxer/238766

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 06:28
by BitPlayer
Frazier71 wrote:Stiverne - Dillian Whyte final eliminator!

Povetkin to oblivion
Looking at the current rankings the next would be Pulev.

Pulev Stivern would be the worst, but Pulev Wilder would be fun.

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 06:31
by BitPlayer
DannyMCR wrote:Wow. I don't know which ones worse, the Browne situation or this one..
Both on the same stuff I think.

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 06:38
by BitPlayer
asdfjkl wrote:I wonder if this is just another American lie spreaded in the media, or if it's actually correct this time. The American media sadly already spreaded so many lies, it's just sad to see. And when a black American men uses all kind of doping directly in front of the doping agency, like Stiverne for example did, it's absolutely no problem and the fight can carry on. But if an innocent Russian still has some traces left in his body from a substance that used to be perfectly allowed it's a massive drugscheat! I also think it's very remarkeble that this happens exactly one day after Wilder his mediastatement about Russians, how did he knew this beforehand?
Look at what they used. Nothing alike.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylhexanamine A stimulant (The same thing Whyte used)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enobosarm Used to treat muscle wasting

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 07:15
by Killer Blow
Enlightened-One wrote:Andrey Ryabinskiy said via his Twitter account that, as per the Wilder fight, the first set of test results came from the American lab. He doesn't know where the trace of Ostarine banned substance came from... and that theoretically, its source cannot be investigated.

This could wreck Ryabinskiy's long-running lawsuit against Deontay Wilder.
Good. Wilder shouldn't be sued for the Povetkin farce.

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 07:28
by Ricky_
Damn, was going to make some money on Povetkin KO.

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 07:46
by Tarkus
Its safe to assume at this point that Povetkin was benefiting form non existent anti doping program in Russia in recent years. His body transformation and emphatic knockouts he scored since Klitschko fight likely to be attributed to his unrestrained doping. He needs to banned for life. Same could be true for Lebedev who with no medication looked weak in his last fight and perhaps other fighters. WBC should not sanction any fights in Russia unless it is done under a strict VADA monitoring.

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:12
by boxing_rocks
Tarkus wrote:Its safe to assume at this point that Povetkin was benefiting form non existent anti doping program in Russia in recent years. His body transformation and emphatic knockouts he scored since Klitschko fight likely to be attributed to his unrestrained doping. He needs to banned for life. Same could be true for Lebedev who with no medication looked weak in his last fight and perhaps other fighters. WBC should not sanction any fights in Russia unless it is done under a strict VADA monitoring.
So, Povetkin started doing what nearly every top athlete around the world does. Should be banned for life for that :lol:

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:13
by boxing_rocks

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:15
by Ruthless-RKO
http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/povetki ... now-372070

World of Boxing Promotions has announced that WBC #1 heavyweight Alexander Povetkin (30-1, 22 KOs) will now face WBC silver titlist Johann “Reptile” Duhaupas (34-3, 21 KOs) in the main event tonight at the Ekaterinburg Expo Center in Ekaterinburg, Russia. Duhaupas enters coming off an impressive KO over Robert Helenius in April and gave WBC champ Deontay Wilder a hard fight last year. He is rated #4 in both the WBC and IBF. It will be a nontitle fight and Duhaupas’ silver belt will not be on the line.

Duhaupas stepped in after Bermane Stiverne pulled out due to Povetkin failing a drug test and the WBC withdrawing world heavyweight interim title sanction as a result.

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:22
by Enlightened-One
Killer Blow wrote:
Enlightened-One wrote:Andrey Ryabinskiy said via his Twitter account that, as per the Wilder fight, the first set of test results came from the American lab. He doesn't know where the trace of Ostarine banned substance came from... and that theoretically, its source cannot be investigated.

This could wreck Ryabinskiy's long-running lawsuit against Deontay Wilder.
Good. Wilder shouldn't be sued for the Povetkin farce.
Technically he should, based on the information contained within the lawsuit and the allegations Wilder's own legal team were refusing to contest... However, the severity of Deontay's contract breaking actions now seem trivial.

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:22
by asdfjkl
BitPlayer wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:I wonder if this is just another American lie spreaded in the media, or if it's actually correct this time. The American media sadly already spreaded so many lies, it's just sad to see. And when a black American men uses all kind of doping directly in front of the doping agency, like Stiverne for example did, it's absolutely no problem and the fight can carry on. But if an innocent Russian still has some traces left in his body from a substance that used to be perfectly allowed it's a massive drugscheat! I also think it's very remarkeble that this happens exactly one day after Wilder his mediastatement about Russians, how did he knew this beforehand?
Look at what they used. Nothing alike.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylhexanamine A stimulant (The same thing Whyte used)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enobosarm Used to treat muscle wasting
I even doubt if it's true at all, it's obvious that the Americans are bullshitting, with Stiverne cheating no problem, now claiming Povetkin failed a dopingtest, just like last time, when he turned out to be 100% innocent as well.

It's bullshit, the Americans are simply scared, can't make much else of it.

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:30
by bigman1968
Riabinski looks a worst boxing businessman in history!

Waisted more than 25,000,000 usd on one mediochre boxer to get any belt...and got only embaressment...

Lucky for him that it is not his money-)))

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:33
by bigman1968
Ruthless-RKO wrote:http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/povetki ... now-372070

World of Boxing Promotions has announced that WBC #1 heavyweight Alexander Povetkin (30-1, 22 KOs) will now face WBC silver titlist Johann “Reptile” Duhaupas (34-3, 21 KOs) in the main event tonight at the Ekaterinburg Expo Center in Ekaterinburg, Russia. Duhaupas enters coming off an impressive KO over Robert Helenius in April and gave WBC champ Deontay Wilder a hard fight last year. He is rated #4 in both the WBC and IBF. It will be a nontitle fight and Duhaupas’ silver belt will not be on the line.

Duhaupas stepped in after Bermane Stiverne pulled out due to Povetkin failing a drug test and the WBC withdrawing world heavyweight interim title sanction as a result.
Duhaupas will come to the ring directly from the airport???-)))

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:35
by Ruthless-RKO
bigman1968 wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/povetki ... now-372070

World of Boxing Promotions has announced that WBC #1 heavyweight Alexander Povetkin (30-1, 22 KOs) will now face WBC silver titlist Johann “Reptile” Duhaupas (34-3, 21 KOs) in the main event tonight at the Ekaterinburg Expo Center in Ekaterinburg, Russia. Duhaupas enters coming off an impressive KO over Robert Helenius in April and gave WBC champ Deontay Wilder a hard fight last year. He is rated #4 in both the WBC and IBF. It will be a nontitle fight and Duhaupas’ silver belt will not be on the line.

Duhaupas stepped in after Bermane Stiverne pulled out due to Povetkin failing a drug test and the WBC withdrawing world heavyweight interim title sanction as a result.
Duhaupas will come to the ring directly from the airport???-)))
He might as well take some drugs now. I don't think he'll lose his ranking if he loses

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:36
by boxing_rocks
asdfjkl wrote:
BitPlayer wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:I wonder if this is just another American lie spreaded in the media, or if it's actually correct this time. The American media sadly already spreaded so many lies, it's just sad to see. And when a black American men uses all kind of doping directly in front of the doping agency, like Stiverne for example did, it's absolutely no problem and the fight can carry on. But if an innocent Russian still has some traces left in his body from a substance that used to be perfectly allowed it's a massive drugscheat! I also think it's very remarkeble that this happens exactly one day after Wilder his mediastatement about Russians, how did he knew this beforehand?
Look at what they used. Nothing alike.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylhexanamine A stimulant (The same thing Whyte used)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enobosarm Used to treat muscle wasting
I even doubt if it's true at all, it's obvious that the Americans are bullshitting, with Stiverne cheating no problem, now claiming Povetkin failed a dopingtest, just like last time, when he turned out to be 100% innocent as well.

It's bullshit, the Americans are simply scared, can't make much else of it.
No, it is not bullshit. It is a blatant neglect or incompetence in following procedures to properly hide PEDs usage. Povetkin should hire Wilder's "nutritionist".

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:37
by boxing_rocks
bigman1968 wrote:
Ruthless-RKO wrote:http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/povetki ... now-372070

World of Boxing Promotions has announced that WBC #1 heavyweight Alexander Povetkin (30-1, 22 KOs) will now face WBC silver titlist Johann “Reptile” Duhaupas (34-3, 21 KOs) in the main event tonight at the Ekaterinburg Expo Center in Ekaterinburg, Russia. Duhaupas enters coming off an impressive KO over Robert Helenius in April and gave WBC champ Deontay Wilder a hard fight last year. He is rated #4 in both the WBC and IBF. It will be a nontitle fight and Duhaupas’ silver belt will not be on the line.

Duhaupas stepped in after Bermane Stiverne pulled out due to Povetkin failing a drug test and the WBC withdrawing world heavyweight interim title sanction as a result.
Duhaupas will come to the ring directly from the airport???-)))
No, he will first have dinner with caviar and vodka :lol:

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:39
by asdfjkl
boxing_rocks wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
BitPlayer wrote: Look at what they used. Nothing alike.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylhexanamine A stimulant (The same thing Whyte used)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enobosarm Used to treat muscle wasting
I even doubt if it's true at all, it's obvious that the Americans are bullshitting, with Stiverne cheating no problem, now claiming Povetkin failed a dopingtest, just like last time, when he turned out to be 100% innocent as well.

It's bullshit, the Americans are simply scared, can't make much else of it.
No, it is not bullshit. It is a blatant neglect or incompetence in following procedures to properly hide PEDs usage. Povetkin should hire Wilder's "nutritionist".
Stiverne was busted while taking the doping in, in front of the doping agency and he was still allowed to fight from the WBC, in other words this is total bullshit, Wada/Vada failed to do a proper job last time as well, when Povetkin eventually turned out to be innocent, I wouldn't be surprised if they "screwed up" again.

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:42
by Unbiased Expert
asdfjkl wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: I even doubt if it's true at all, it's obvious that the Americans are bullshitting, with Stiverne cheating no problem, now claiming Povetkin failed a dopingtest, just like last time, when he turned out to be 100% innocent as well.

It's bullshit, the Americans are simply scared, can't make much else of it.
No, it is not bullshit. It is a blatant neglect or incompetence in following procedures to properly hide PEDs usage. Povetkin should hire Wilder's "nutritionist".
Stiverne was busted while taking the doping in, in front of the doping agency and he was still allowed to fight from the WBC, in other words this is total bullshit, Wada/Vada failed to do a proper job last time as well, when Povetkin eventually turned out to be innocent, I wouldn't be surprised if they "screwed up" again.

Stop talking shits. Povektin was never "innocent". Because he says he was on meldonium before it was banned , it has to be the truth? He is p.o.s on steroids

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:49
by asdfjkl
Unbiased Expert wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
boxing_rocks wrote:
No, it is not bullshit. It is a blatant neglect or incompetence in following procedures to properly hide PEDs usage. Povetkin should hire Wilder's "nutritionist".
Stiverne was busted while taking the doping in, in front of the doping agency and he was still allowed to fight from the WBC, in other words this is total bullshit, Wada/Vada failed to do a proper job last time as well, when Povetkin eventually turned out to be innocent, I wouldn't be surprised if they "screwed up" again.

Stop talking shits. Povektin was never "innocent". Because he says he was on meldonium before it was banned , it has to be the truth? He is p.o.s on steroids
Oh right, we now suddenly ban aspirins and straight away ban all Americans who ever used an aspirin?
That's pretty much what they did with Meldonium.

Re: Povetkin fails another drug test!

Posted: 17 Dec 2016, 08:55
by Jip
and so manynon experts on this board had him as the second best heavyweight in the world lol...what a joke