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Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 21 Dec 2016, 23:39
by asdfjkl
Grailer wrote:
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Kubrat Pulev
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Kubrat Pulev
7. Joseph Parker
8. Andy Ruiz
9. Carlos Takam
10. Bryant Jennings

My top 10.

Notice Anthony Joshua not ranked because he hasnt beaten anyone yet
But, then who has Jennings, Ruiz, Wilder ever beaten?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 01:00
by jezzamundo
pound per pound wrote:Tyson Fury is in the nut house, he's out and can not be ranked.

Who's the active #1?

#1 I'll go with Povetkin for now, with the winner of Wlad vs Joshua passing him.

#2 Wlad
#3 Joshua
#4 Ortiz
#5 Parker
#6 Wilder
#7 Pulev
#8 Haye
#9 Ruiz
#10 Browne
#11 Whyte
#12 Jennings
#13 Teslenko
#14 H. Fury
#15 Lippe-Morrison
You're aware I can't accept that as a vote?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 05:06
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:You're a moron.
No, he isn't.
Why would he say that but still include Andy Ruiz on the list? What wins does he have on his resume?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 08:06
by Horse
Rob3_142 wrote:Why would he say that but still include Andy Ruiz on the list? What wins does he have on his resume?
Quite a lot of people thought that Ruiz beat Parker.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 09:22
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:Why would he say that but still include Andy Ruiz on the list? What wins does he have on his resume?
Quite a lot of people thought that Ruiz beat Parker.
Well that's very nice, but he still lost.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 09:35
by Horse
Rob3_142 wrote:Well that's very nice, but he still lost.
Ruiz's loss to Parker is still far better than anything that Joshua has done.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 09:50
by Killer Blow
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:Well that's very nice, but he still lost.
Ruiz's loss to Parker is still far better than anything that Joshua has done.
This is bad.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 09:55
by Horse
Killer Blow wrote:This is bad.
Yes, Joshua is a very poor world champion.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 09:58
by Killer Blow
Horse wrote:
Killer Blow wrote:This is bad.
Yes, Joshua is a very poor world champion.
Good thing he'll lose his belt next time out if he isn't up to scratch.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 10:53
by keirw
Topic A-
Fury out (title becomes vacant).
Klitcshko stays where he is.
Jennings out.
Steverne stays where he is.

Topic B-
Povetkin out.

Topic C-
Browne out.

Fury and Jennings are too inactive to remain ranked, though I would like to wish both a speedy recovery.

Steverne did have a fight scheduled which he missed through no fault of his own.

Klitcshko has a fight scheduled, though, if that were to fall through he should probably be dropped out too.

Both Povetkin and Brown can plead their innocence all they like, and given the confusing circumstances surrounding both men's first failed tests I actually had a certain degree of sympathy for them.
But two failed tests in a row is a different story.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 12:24
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:Well that's very nice, but he still lost.
Ruiz's loss to Parker is still far better than anything that Joshua has done.
You are quite delusional. A narrow points defeat does not override brutal knockout wins against Whyte, Molina, Martin and Breazeale.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 12:26
by Horse
Rob3_142 wrote:You are quite delusional. A narrow points defeat does not override brutal knockout wins against Whyte, Molina, Martin and Breazeale.
Yes, it does.

Parker is much better than anyone on Joshua's record.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 12:36
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:You are quite delusional. A narrow points defeat does not override brutal knockout wins against Whyte, Molina, Martin and Breazeale.
Yes, it does.

Parker is much better than anyone on Joshua's record.
That might be true, but he lost to him. Had he won, I might be inclined to agree, but he didn't.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 12:38
by the_doctor
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:You are quite delusional. A narrow points defeat does not override brutal knockout wins against Whyte, Molina, Martin and Breazeale.
Yes, it does.

Parker is much better than anyone on Joshua's record.
Just out of interest, how do you see:
Parker vs Joshua?
Ruiz vs Joshua?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 12:38
by Horse
Rob3_142 wrote:That might be true, but he lost to him. Had he won, I might be inclined to agree, but he didn't.
A close loss to Parker is still better than everything that Joshua has done so far.

Joshua is by far the most overrated fighter in world boxing right now.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 12:39
by Horse
the_doctor wrote:Just out of interest, how do you see:
Parker vs Joshua?
Ruiz vs Joshua?
I would predict that Joshua loses both.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 13:10
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:That might be true, but he lost to him. Had he won, I might be inclined to agree, but he didn't.
A close loss to Parker is still better than everything that Joshua has done so far.

Joshua is by far the most overrated fighter in world boxing right now.
What do you think Joshua needs to do specifically to earn your approval?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 13:17
by Horse
Rob3_142 wrote:What do you think Joshua needs to do specifically to earn your approval?
Fight someone good.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 13:25
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:What do you think Joshua needs to do specifically to earn your approval?
Fight someone good.
Klitchko qualify?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 13:27
by Horse
Rob3_142 wrote:Klitchko qualify?
Yes.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 13:30
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:Klitchko qualify?
Yes.
Based on Joshua's current resume, where would you place him in the rankings?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 13:30
by Horse
Rob3_142 wrote:Based on Joshua's current resume, where would you place him in the rankings?
It's a secret.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 14:35
by BitPlayer
asdfjkl wrote:
Grailer wrote:
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Kubrat Pulev
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Kubrat Pulev
7. Joseph Parker
8. Andy Ruiz
9. Carlos Takam
10. Bryant Jennings

My top 10.

Notice Anthony Joshua not ranked because he hasnt beaten anyone yet
But, then who has Jennings, Ruiz, Wilder ever beaten?
Jennings beat Artur Szpilka and Mike Perez (though I don't know much about him), Ruiz put in a very credible performance vs Parker, and Wilder has beaten Stiverne, Szpilka, and Duhaupas. Though I do think Joshua should be in the top 10. He's shown enough for that.

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 14:36
by Rob3_142
Horse wrote:
Rob3_142 wrote:Based on Joshua's current resume, where would you place him in the rankings?
It's a secret.
Pretty please?

Re: Updating the BOXREC Forum Heavyweight Rankings

Posted: 22 Dec 2016, 14:39
by Rob3_142
BitPlayer wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Grailer wrote:
1. Wladimir Klitschko
2. Alexander Povetkin
3. Kubrat Pulev
4. Deontay Wilder
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Kubrat Pulev
7. Joseph Parker
8. Andy Ruiz
9. Carlos Takam
10. Bryant Jennings

My top 10.

Notice Anthony Joshua not ranked because he hasnt beaten anyone yet
But, then who has Jennings, Ruiz, Wilder ever beaten?
Jennings beat Artur Szpilka and Mike Perez (though I don't know much about him), Ruiz put in a very credible performance vs Parker, and Wilder has beaten Stiverne, Szpilka, and Duhaupas. Though I do think Joshua should be in the top 10. He's shown enough for that.
Yeah but are Jennings, Ruiz and Takam's wins that good that they push Joshua out the top 10?

Also this list is so good, it has Pulev twice...