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Re: How much ppv would Joshua - Wilder do?
Posted: 09 Jan 2017, 15:15
by TheGman
ginty wrote:Is wilder a big deal in the USA I don't know , obviously AJ would sell well in England well if it's over here but if it's in America at 5 am UK time it won't sell that well and if it's in UK it won't do that great in the US as it would be at 5 pm .
Probably better at 5am uk than 6pm usa
Re: How much ppv would Joshua - Wilder do?
Posted: 09 Jan 2017, 15:29
by SaadOffTheDeck
No way, that's a UK fight all the way.
Re: How much ppv would Joshua - Wilder do?
Posted: 10 Jan 2017, 22:33
by Wales
Enlightened-One wrote:Nightmare Roy wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:
No it won't be.
It cannot possibly beat the Hatton-Mayweather PPV figure of 1.2m.
Froch-Groves II only achieved 900K.
Lewis-Tyson achieved 750K.
Golovkin-Brook did 500K.
Joshua-Whyte did 400K.
Joshua-Brazeale did 300K.
you can't say it cannot possibly beat a record, personally I think if AJ does an absolute number Klit his profile will sky rocket, add to that that Wilder is an undefeated HW KO machine too, with a personality, the promo will send demand though the roof, it could definitely top Hatton Floyd.
I guess I embellished when I used the phrase "cannot possibly", but the likelihood is almost certainly remote.
Even though Matchroom may eventually quote figures surpassing Hatton-Mayweather, Sky will remain silent on the issue (since they never disclose numbers) and the UK's equivalent of Nielsen will eventually contradict Eddie Hearn's claims.
Whilst Anthony Joshua is a popular figure in the UK, his figures are generally less than a third of the numbers achieved by Ricky Hatton.
And Wladimir Klitschko's bouts have sometimes struggled to be televised in the UK, with Sky, Box-Nation and ESPN refusing to cover one or two of his fights, such as the Pulev contest.
I've researched my facts, so I do possess an educated opinion on the matter.
For the record, I'd like to be eventually proven wrong about my thoughts on the matter, as it would mean that the sport of boxing in the UK is almost as popular now than its late '80's early '90's heyday, but I sincerely doubt it, because the numbers and the statistical trends don't stack up.
I think the introduction and ease of access to streaming and android boxes greatly reduces the number of people buying PPVs in general too
Re: How much ppv would Joshua - Wilder do?
Posted: 10 Jan 2017, 22:46
by Wales
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Tex-Mex wrote:Around 400k.
Casuals in the states don't know who Joshua is yet. That will change after the Klitschko fight.
Lol, they don't know who wilder is.
That will change after the Wawrzyk fight.... Oh wait....
Re: How much ppv would Joshua - Wilder do?
Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 09:16
by Badhusker
Speaking of casual fans, I wouldn't even consider Pacquiao a casual fan. Roach said GGG stopped in his camp fairly recently (last year or maybe two) to take a picture with Manny. Manny had no idea who it was, or that he was even a boxer.
As far as Joshua vs Wilder, PPV sales would do great if both keep winning, and especially Wilder gets some quality opponents. Wilder claims he wants to fight Parker in April if he comes out of his next bout injury free. We'll see. According to what I read his bicep injury should have a 12 month healing period....not 7 or 8 months. I am guessing 2018 before AJ and Wilder meet.
I should add that it is not a lock that AJ beats Wlad, depending on which Wlad shows up. Hopefully he knocks Wlad into retirement.
Re: How much ppv would Joshua - Wilder do?
Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 09:27
by gp.
I am not sure it would be that much bigger in the UK than Joshua-Martin. As far as the non-boxing people are concerned that's where he won his world title and both were/are "undefeated American world champions". Not many casuals over here have much idea who Deontay Wilder is. Joshua - Klitschko would be bigger
Re: How much ppv would Joshua - Wilder do?
Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 11:20
by jockpunk
I have no idea about the UK, but I would guess it would do about 150k in the states. About half of those would be from the state of Alabama.
Re: How much ppv would Joshua - Wilder do?
Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 11:32
by klitoris
In the US probably no more than 150k.