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Re: Joshua on his way to Moscow?
Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 04:44
by wesshaw1985
Povetkin would stop AJ.
AJ and Hearn will do everything to avoid...
Re: Joshua on his way to Moscow?
Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 05:32
by Boxing Writer
1. If Joshua beats Wlad, even this, clearly faded version, he is good enough to beat Povetkin. Wlad was alreadly starting to slip slightly when he fought Povetkin at 37 (not much, about as much as Lennox Lewis in the same age), but still completely dominated him.
2. IBF ordered Joshua - Wlad winner to fight mandatory challenger Kubrat Pulev next. IF Joshua beats Wlad on April 29, he will face Pulev probably in September. So even if Povetkin becomes mandatory challenger by that time, which is not given, Joshua will have a 12 months to fight him as a mandatory challeger. So the earliest this fight can happen is September 2018. Povetkin will be 39 y.o. by then, Joshua will be much more experienced than he is now.
Re: Joshua on his way to Moscow?
Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 10:19
by Rob3_142
asdfjkl wrote:Rob3_142 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:
Well that was at least 70 nanogram, which is quite a lot actually compared to these new occusations. And why doesn't he receive a simple warning? Like many Americans?
Well he got off scot-free for the Melodonium, while his fellow country person Maria Sharapova received a 2 year ban. Not entirely sure why.
Why do you think anyone should get away with cheating or taking steroids?
Because Maria, who actually lived in the US for many years, continued to take this medicine when it wasn't allowed any more. Saying she didn't realise someone changed the rules around this substance, she just continued to do what she has done for well over a decade. Imagine aspirins were all of a sudden made illegal, a very similar medicine btw, then half America would be banned as well, especially if people don't realise. Povetkin actually did realise, and stopped taking it immedietly, but they still managed to trace about 70 nanogram of it left in his body, which could be expected naturally. Somehow this was the perfect excuse for Wilder to duck him all over again and since Povetkin is the most tested boxer in the entire world last year it was very well known that he took Meldonium when it used to be allowed. So that's why Wilder could easely say he wanted to fight in Russia, since he knew ages beforehand that he had this ducking excuse in the very end.
Wait a minute, Maria Sharapova failed a drug test 2 weeks after it came onto the banned list, which by the way was still her fault as she was not keeping up with the WADA banned list (she hires doctors and managers to make sure this stuff is all in line). Povekin found the substance 5 months after it was placed on the banned list. Considering the short half life of that drug, it's quite probable that the substance has been ingested after the 1st January time frame.
Re: Joshua on his way to Moscow?
Posted: 11 Jan 2017, 17:23
by asdfjkl
Rob3_142 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Rob3_142 wrote:
Well he got off scot-free for the Melodonium, while his fellow country person Maria Sharapova received a 2 year ban. Not entirely sure why.
Why do you think anyone should get away with cheating or taking steroids?
Because Maria, who actually lived in the US for many years, continued to take this medicine when it wasn't allowed any more. Saying she didn't realise someone changed the rules around this substance, she just continued to do what she has done for well over a decade. Imagine aspirins were all of a sudden made illegal, a very similar medicine btw, then half America would be banned as well, especially if people don't realise. Povetkin actually did realise, and stopped taking it immedietly, but they still managed to trace about 70 nanogram of it left in his body, which could be expected naturally. Somehow this was the perfect excuse for Wilder to duck him all over again and since Povetkin is the most tested boxer in the entire world last year it was very well known that he took Meldonium when it used to be allowed. So that's why Wilder could easely say he wanted to fight in Russia, since he knew ages beforehand that he had this ducking excuse in the very end.
Wait a minute, Maria Sharapova failed a drug test 2 weeks after it came onto the banned list, which by the way was still her fault as she was not keeping up with the WADA banned list (she hires doctors and managers to make sure this stuff is all in line). Povekin found the substance 5 months after it was placed on the banned list. Considering the short half life of that drug, it's quite probable that the substance has been ingested after the 1st January time frame.
Short halflife? It can be traced many months after, especially in nanodosis? Also, it has been proven before that it can be detectable again after being undetectable at some point. Also, Sharapova and Povetkin were both completely honest and open about what happened between themself and meldonium. Sharapova took it after the ban started, Povetkin didn't.