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Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2017
Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 12:47
by In the know 85
Just a little follow up on that. If a fighter is awesome, and through no fault of his own nobody wants to fight him should his p4p rank be hurt considerably??? Or should the fighters scared to get in with him be knocked down the p4p rankings a rung or two?? I think GGG and rigondeaux put the fear of God into potential opponents and therefore struggle to get fights with anyone of substance! Yet I could fill a whole page with fighters that would give their right arm to get in with your over praised pacquiao, and almost laughable suggestion Bradley.
Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2017
Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 14:01
by Horse
In the know 85 wrote:Just a little follow up on that. If a fighter is awesome, and through no fault of his own nobody wants to fight him should his p4p rank be hurt considerably??? Or should the fighters scared to get in with him be knocked down the p4p rankings a rung or two?? I think GGG and rigondeaux put the fear of God into potential opponents and therefore struggle to get fights with anyone of substance!
It is Rigondeaux's fault that he signed up with an awful managerial team.
Rigondeaux doesn't seem all that interested in fighting good opposition, or impressing fans and putting on a show when facing weak opposition, so I don't really have much sympathy for him.
In the know 85 wrote:Yet I could fill a whole page with fighters that would give their right arm to get in with your over praised pacquiao, and almost laughable suggestion Bradley.
Who's Golovkin beaten that is better than Bradley?
Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2017
Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 14:23
by In the know 85
Horse wrote:In the know 85 wrote:Just a little follow up on that. If a fighter is awesome, and through no fault of his own nobody wants to fight him should his p4p rank be hurt considerably??? Or should the fighters scared to get in with him be knocked down the p4p rankings a rung or two?? I think GGG and rigondeaux put the fear of God into potential opponents and therefore struggle to get fights with anyone of substance!
It is Rigondeaux's fault that he signed up with an awful managerial team.
Rigondeaux doesn't seem all that interested in fighting good opposition, or impressing fans and putting on a show when facing weak opposition, so I don't really have much sympathy for him.
In the know 85 wrote:Yet I could fill a whole page with fighters that would give their right arm to get in with your over praised pacquiao, and almost laughable suggestion Bradley.
Who's Golovkin beaten that is better than Bradley?
I would say brook is better than Bradley! But that's besides the point.. Could you tell me who is queuing up to fight rigondeaux and GGG??? Nobody that's who! The bigger the queues to fight a guy, the weaker they generally are, rigo and GGG don't get big fights for a reason mate... Beause they hand out L's on a regular basis and rarely have to come out of 1st or 2nd gear to do so, imagine those two going through the gears they rarely have to use and now realise why they are ducked all year round! The list is flawed on many levels period.
Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2017
Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 14:40
by Counter-puncher
I love it when people honk adding the word 'period' somehow clinches it
Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2017
Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 15:25
by Horse
In the know 85 wrote:I would say brook is better than Bradley! But that's besides the point.. Could you tell me who is queuing up to fight rigondeaux and GGG??? Nobody that's who! The bigger the queues to fight a guy, the weaker they generally are, rigo and GGG don't get big fights for a reason mate... Beause they hand out L's on a regular basis and rarely have to come out of 1st or 2nd gear to do so, imagine those two going through the gears they rarely have to use and now realise why they are ducked all year round! The list is flawed on many levels period.
So I should give fighters high rankings just because people postulate that they are being avoided?
Perhaps these two fighters are pricing themselves out of the biggest fights.
Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2017
Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 15:28
by Horse
Counter-puncher wrote:I love it when people honk adding the word 'period' somehow clinches it
It made him seem so authoritative.
It almost convinced me.
Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2017
Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 20:16
by In the know 85
Horse wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:I love it when people honk adding the word 'period' somehow clinches it
It made him seem so authoritative.
It almost convinced me.
I've seen some of your post's, and I'm pretty sure your an actual horse. Very impressed.
Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2017
Posted: 16 Jan 2017, 20:19
by crusader
Horse's placement of Rigo is pretty accurate. His one major win was 4 years ago, and I dont think hes actually looked that great against the mediocre opposition he's since fought.
Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2017
Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 11:09
by In the know 85
crusader wrote:Horse's placement of Rigo is pretty accurate. His one major win was 4 years ago, and I dont think hes actually looked that great against the mediocre opposition he's since fought.
Both frampton and Santa Cruz moved weight to avoid him.. Funny guys..
Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2017
Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 11:15
by crusader
Whatever the explanation, the recent results just arent there, and going down twice sgainst Amagasa isnt exactly P4P elite stuff.
Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2017
Posted: 17 Jan 2017, 12:40
by boxing_rocks
crusader wrote:Whatever the explanation, the recent results just arent there, and going down twice sgainst Amagasa isnt exactly P4P elite stuff.
For a younger fighter, I would disagree, but Rigo is 36 and if he is not proving that he is still an elite against top opposition, then he should slide in p4p lists.