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boxing_rocks wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
It is REALLY hard to score the fight for DeGale, and even though I started watching rooting for him, I think the judge who gave him the win is corrupt. I hope the other two made honest mistakes, but I am not sure about that.

You need to get a grip.

You are the one who needs to accept reality. Top level pro boxing is ruled by crooks and so is top level amateur boxing.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
You need to get a grip.

You are the one who needs to accept reality. Top level pro boxing is ruled by crooks and so is top level amateur boxing.

It was a Mayweather promoted show. Are you saying he's stupid enough to bribe the judges to pick the wrong guy? You need to sort yourself out, lots of people saw it different to you, even during the show the twitter poll had it 51-49 in favour of Jack right after the fight. And you think this was a terrible decision? It's you who hasn't quite got a grasp of reality.

boxing_rocks wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
You are the one who needs to accept reality. Top level pro boxing is ruled by crooks and so is top level amateur boxing.

It was a Mayweather promoted show. Are you saying he's stupid enough to bribe the judges to pick the wrong guy? You need to sort yourself out, lots of people saw it different to you, even during the show the twitter poll had it 51-49 in favour of Jack right after the fight. And you think this was a terrible decision? It's you who hasn't quite got a grasp of reality.

DiBella was a co-promoter. More importantly, Haymon is the one who really owned that card, so his opinion is what mattered.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
It was a Mayweather promoted show. Are you saying he's stupid enough to bribe the judges to pick the wrong guy? You need to sort yourself out, lots of people saw it different to you, even during the show the twitter poll had it 51-49 in favour of Jack right after the fight. And you think this was a terrible decision? It's you who hasn't quite got a grasp of reality.

DiBella was a co-promoter. More importantly, Haymon is the one who really owned that card, so his opinion is what mattered.

Right and that has what to do with Degale?

boxing_rocks wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
DiBella was a co-promoter. More importantly, Haymon is the one who really owned that card, so his opinion is what mattered.

Right and that has what to do with Degale?

If DeGale won, he would have a big money fight vs Calum Smith, and Haymon was interested in that to happen.

boxing_rocks wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
DiBella was a co-promoter. More importantly, Haymon is the one who really owned that card, so his opinion is what mattered.

Right and that has what to do with Degale?

If DeGale won, he would have a big money fight vs Calum Smith, and Haymon was interested in that to happen.

gilgamesh wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
Right and that has what to do with Degale?

If DeGale won, he would have a big money fight vs Calum Smith, and Haymon was interested in that to happen.

Considering he's a Champion still I don't see any reason why the Callum Smith fight would be off the table. It's not like he lost his title.

Enlightened-One wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
If DeGale won, he would have a big money fight vs Calum Smith, and Haymon was interested in that to happen.

Considering he's a Champion still I don't see any reason why the Callum Smith fight would be off the table. It's not like he lost his title.

Eddie Hearn stated over the weekend that his plan is for Callum Smith to face Anthony Dirrell for the soon-to-be vacant WBC title, instead of going down the IBF route.

gilgamesh wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:
Right and that has what to do with Degale?

If DeGale won, he would have a big money fight vs Calum Smith, and Haymon was interested in that to happen.

Considering he's a Champion still I don't see any reason why the Callum Smith fight would be off the table. It's not like he lost his title.

gilgamesh wrote:

Enlightened-One wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Considering he's a Champion still I don't see any reason why the Callum Smith fight would be off the table. It's not like he lost his title.

Eddie Hearn stated over the weekend that his plan is for Callum Smith to face Anthony Dirrell for the soon-to-be vacant WBC title, instead of going down the IBF route.

Interesting bout.

boxing_rocks wrote:

davie wrote:

handsofstone wrote:Mayweather is an absolute helmet, he cant stand being in a room with someone who's getting more attention than himself so has to hijack every mike or camera in sight

I wouldn't mind as much if he had anything interesting to say but jeez the guy bores the tits off me

Even Eddie "look at me" Hearn couldn't get a look in.

There's a lot of sense being talked in this thread. I opened expecting to read "ROBBERY, OUTRAGE, CORRUPTION!"
But there's an acceptance that the decision just didn't go the way people thought it should and it was the wrong call.

Like so many of the close decisions lately that everyones branded "ROBBERY" I think it could have easily been scored either way.
I had it to Degale by a round or two I think, I think the draw was fair and looking at the damage on Degales face he can't be too disappointed not to win.

I can see how someone would have scored it to Jack, depending on what you like.

It is REALLY hard to score the fight for DeGale, and even though I started watching rooting for him, I think the judge who gave him the win is corrupt. I hope the other two made honest mistakes, but I am not sure about that.

boxing_rocks wrote:

davie wrote:

handsofstone wrote:Mayweather is an absolute helmet, he cant stand being in a room with someone who's getting more attention than himself so has to hijack every mike or camera in sight

I wouldn't mind as much if he had anything interesting to say but jeez the guy bores the tits off me

Even Eddie "look at me" Hearn couldn't get a look in.

There's a lot of sense being talked in this thread. I opened expecting to read "ROBBERY, OUTRAGE, CORRUPTION!"
But there's an acceptance that the decision just didn't go the way people thought it should and it was the wrong call.

Like so many of the close decisions lately that everyones branded "ROBBERY" I think it could have easily been scored either way.
I had it to Degale by a round or two I think, I think the draw was fair and looking at the damage on Degales face he can't be too disappointed not to win.

I can see how someone would have scored it to Jack, depending on what you like.

It is REALLY hard to score the fight for DeGale, and even though I started watching rooting for him, I think the judge who gave him the win is corrupt. I hope the other two made honest mistakes, but I am not sure about that.

davie wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

davie wrote:
Even Eddie "look at me" Hearn couldn't get a look in.

There's a lot of sense being talked in this thread. I opened expecting to read "ROBBERY, OUTRAGE, CORRUPTION!"
But there's an acceptance that the decision just didn't go the way people thought it should and it was the wrong call.

Like so many of the close decisions lately that everyones branded "ROBBERY" I think it could have easily been scored either way.
I had it to Degale by a round or two I think, I think the draw was fair and looking at the damage on Degales face he can't be too disappointed not to win.

I can see how someone would have scored it to Jack, depending on what you like.

It is REALLY hard to score the fight for DeGale, and even though I started watching rooting for him, I think the judge who gave him the win is corrupt. I hope the other two made honest mistakes, but I am not sure about that.

What REALLY hard?
With capital letters and everything.
Not really, I managed it and I don't think I even broke sweat...(and I sometimes get out of breath just tying my shoelaces)

boxing_rocks wrote:

davie wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
It is REALLY hard to score the fight for DeGale, and even though I started watching rooting for him, I think the judge who gave him the win is corrupt. I hope the other two made honest mistakes, but I am not sure about that.

What REALLY hard?
With capital letters and everything.
Not really, I managed it and I don't think I even broke sweat...(and I sometimes get out of breath just tying my shoelaces)

I mean "really hard for a non-Brit". Jack won at least 7 rounds, and none of those 7 were close. One more could have been even scored 10-8. Jack took over after the third when DeGale gassed and started slapping instead of punching. Of course many Brits see it differently, but they don't count the same way as Jack's fans.

davie wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

davie wrote:
What REALLY hard?
With capital letters and everything.
Not really, I managed it and I don't think I even broke sweat...(and I sometimes get out of breath just tying my shoelaces)

I mean "really hard for a non-Brit". Jack won at least 7 rounds, and none of those 7 were close. One more could have been even scored 10-8. Jack took over after the third when DeGale gassed and started slapping instead of punching. Of course many Brits see it differently, but they don't count the same way as Jack's fans.

So we can't count and are not able to judge objectively?
Anything else us thick Brits can't do?

boxing_rocks wrote:

davie wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
I mean "really hard for a non-Brit". Jack won at least 7 rounds, and none of those 7 were close. One more could have been even scored 10-8. Jack took over after the third when DeGale gassed and started slapping instead of punching. Of course many Brits see it differently, but they don't count the same way as Jack's fans.

So we can't count and are not able to judge objectively?
Anything else us thick Brits can't do?

Don't get offended. I am not objective when talking about my favorite fighters. That is natural. Once again, I started watching that fight rooting for DeGale, but I can't see how he could be given more that 5 rounds. His punches were lighter and his ring generalship wasn't better than Jack's.

davie wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

davie wrote:
So we can't count and are not able to judge objectively?
Anything else us thick Brits can't do?

Don't get offended. I am not objective when talking about my favorite fighters. That is natural. Once again, I started watching that fight rooting for DeGale, but I can't see how he could be given more that 5 rounds. His punches were lighter and his ring generalship wasn't better than Jack's.

Fair enough.
But I did give it to Degale and I like to think I view things as objectively as I can.

I must admit though, when I scored it I was suffering a stinking hangover. I'd fell asleep while watching the fight first time, at around 4, fairly sozzled.